Charley Rose - Revision history

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	~~== Boxer - Manager - Promoter - Trainer ==~~		[[File:CharleyRose.JPG\|left\|250px]]
	[[~~file~~:~~Rose~~.~~Charley.jpg~~\|left\|~~'Broadway' Charley Rose~~]]

	'''"Broadway" Charley Rose'''<br>		'''"Broadway" Charley Rose'''<br>
	'''Born''': 1886-03-04<br>		'''Born''': 1886-03-04<br>
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	'''Charley Rose''' prided himself on the fact that he was born on the same day the Statue of Liberty was dedicated. Although his boxing career is little known, apparently he had a respectable featherweight record in the early 1900s. He reportedly was the first boxer to enlist for the United States in World War I. He served with the First Division of the American ~~Expeditiary~~ Forces (AEF) for 20 months, and saw action at Verdun, France, capturing several German soldiers.		'''Charley Rose''' prided himself on the fact that he was born on the same day the Statue of Liberty was dedicated. Although his boxing career is little known, apparently he had a respectable featherweight record in the early 1900s. (He may be Boxer #452836.) He reportedly was the first boxer to enlist for the United States in World War I. He served with the First Division of the American Expeditionary Forces (AEF) for 20 months, and saw action at Verdun, France, capturing several German soldiers.

	He was dubbed "Broadway" Charley by [[Dan Parker]] because he was credited with being the first person to take boxing's management-promotion out of the saloons to the "big street" at Broadway and 49th, renting an office with [[Jack Curley]].		He was dubbed "Broadway" Charley by [[Dan Parker]] because he was credited with being the first person to take boxing's management-promotion out of the saloons to the "big street" at Broadway and 49th, renting an office with [[Jack Curley]].
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	Rose's "All-Time Greatest" lists are frequently cited to this day. (He considered [[Jim Jeffries]] the greatest heavyweight of all time, after "Studying strength, ability, punching power, stamina to fight hard all the way by the end of the 25th round.")		Rose's "All-Time Greatest" lists are frequently cited to this day. (He considered [[Jim Jeffries]] the greatest heavyweight of all time, after "Studying strength, ability, punching power, stamina to fight hard all the way by the end of the 25th round.")


	Sources:		Sources:
	*''The Ring'', [[Ring_Magazine:_March_1975\|March 1975]], p. 72		*''The Ring'', [[Ring_Magazine:_March_1975\|March 1975]], p. 72
	*Ty Cobb ~~Article~~ of May 28, 1944		*Ty Cobb article of May 28, 1944
			*"A Perennial Rose" by Ted Carroll [https://ibroresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/rose_charley_march-1958.pdf]
			*"Fun and Frolic" and "The Strange World of...Charley Rose" by Ted Carroll [https://ibroresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/rose_charley_ring61-62.pdf]
			*Obituary by Sam Taub [https://ibroresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/rose_charley_obituary.pdf]
			*Charley Rose's All-Time Ratings [https://ibroresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/rose_charleyall-time-ratings.pdf]

	[[Category:World War I Veterans\|Rose, Charley]]		[[Category:World War I Veterans\|Rose, Charley]]

Ric at 21:39, 22 August 2014

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Bert at 19:29, 3 May 2012

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	Dubbed "Broadway" Charley by [[Dan Parker]] because he was credited with being the first to take boxing's management-promotion out of the saloons to the "big street" at Broadway and 49th , renting an office with [[Jack Curley]].		Dubbed "Broadway" Charley by [[Dan Parker]] because he was credited with being the first to take boxing's management-promotion out of the saloons to the "big street" at Broadway and 49th , renting an office with [[Jack Curley]].

	He was involved with the careers of some 82 boxers -- including [[Max Schmeling]], [[Freddie Welsh]], [[Al Roth]], [[Cocoa Kid]], [[Charley Burley]], [[Johnny Rosner]], [[Jimmy Goodrich]], [[Mike McTigue]], [[Paul Berlenbach]], [[Willie Jackson]], [[Holman Williams]], [[Harry Wills]], [[Fred Fulton]], [[Jack Renault]], [[Carl Morris]], [[Lew Jenkins]], [[Soldier Bartfield]], [[Harry Stone]], [[Bartley Madden]], [[Young Montreal]], [[Sailor Darden]], [[Clem Johnson]], and [[Bill Hood]].		He was involved with the careers of some 82 boxers -- including [[Max Schmeling]], [[Freddie Welsh]], [[Al Roth]], [[Cocoa Kid]], [[Charley Burley]], [[Johnny (Young) Rosner\|Johnny Rosner]], [[Jimmy Goodrich]], [[Mike McTigue]], [[Paul Berlenbach]], [[Willie Jackson]], [[Holman Williams]], [[Harry Wills]], [[Fred Fulton]], [[Jack Renault]], [[Carl Morris]], [[Lew Jenkins]], [[Soldier Bartfield]], [[Harry Stone]], [[Bartley Madden]], [[Young Montreal]], [[Sailor Darden]], [[Clem Johnson]], and [[Billy Hood\|Bill Hood]].

	He died in 1974 in his New York hotel room from inhalation of smoke, from a fire he had accidentally set while smoking a cigar.		He died in 1974 in his New York hotel room from inhalation of smoke, from a fire he had accidentally set while smoking a cigar.

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	Dubbed "Broadway" Charley by [[Dan Parker]] because he was credited with being the first to take boxing's management-promotion out of the saloons to the "big street" at Broadway and 49th , renting an office with [[Jack Curley]].		Dubbed "Broadway" Charley by [[Dan Parker]] because he was credited with being the first to take boxing's management-promotion out of the saloons to the "big street" at Broadway and 49th , renting an office with [[Jack Curley]].

	He was involved with the careers of some 82 boxers -- including [[~~Boxer:Max Schmeling:009041\|~~Max Schmeling]], [[Freddie Welsh]], [[Al Roth]], [[~~Boxer:Cocoa Kid:009418\|~~Cocoa Kid]], [[~~Boxer:Charley Burley:009004\|~~Charley Burley]], [[Johnny Rosner]], [[Jimmy Goodrich]], [[Mike McTigue]], [[Paul Berlenbach]], [[Willie Jackson]], [[~~Boxer:Holman Williams:009968\|~~Holman Williams]], [[Harry Wills]], [[Fred Fulton]], [[Jack Renault]], [[Carl Morris]], [[~~Boxer:Lew Jenkins:009466\|~~Lew Jenkins]], [[Soldier Bartfield]], [[Harry Stone]], [[Bartley Madden]], [[Young Montreal]], [[Sailor Darden]], [[Clem Johnson]], and [[Bill Hood]].		He was involved with the careers of some 82 boxers -- including [[Max Schmeling]], [[Freddie Welsh]], [[Al Roth]], [[Cocoa Kid]], [[Charley Burley]], [[Johnny Rosner]], [[Jimmy Goodrich]], [[Mike McTigue]], [[Paul Berlenbach]], [[Willie Jackson]], [[Holman Williams]], [[Harry Wills]], [[Fred Fulton]], [[Jack Renault]], [[Carl Morris]], [[Lew Jenkins]], [[Soldier Bartfield]], [[Harry Stone]], [[Bartley Madden]], [[Young Montreal]], [[Sailor Darden]], [[Clem Johnson]], and [[Bill Hood]].

	He died in 1974 in his New York hotel room from inhalation of smoke, from a fire he had accidentally set while smoking a cigar.		He died in 1974 in his New York hotel room from inhalation of smoke, from a fire he had accidentally set while smoking a cigar.

Ric at 06:05, 1 January 2007

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	Rose prided himself on the fact that he was born on the same day the Statue of Liberty was dedicated. Although his boxing career is little known, apparently he had a respectable featherweight record in the early 1900s. He reportedly was the first boxer to enlist for the United States in World War I. He served with the First Division of the American Expeditiary Forces (AEF) for 20 months, and saw action at Verdun, France, capturing several German soldiers.		Rose prided himself on the fact that he was born on the same day the Statue of Liberty was dedicated. Although his boxing career is little known, apparently he had a respectable featherweight record in the early 1900s. He reportedly was the first boxer to enlist for the United States in World War I. He served with the First Division of the American Expeditiary Forces (AEF) for 20 months, and saw action at Verdun, France, capturing several German soldiers.

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	*Ty Cobb Article of May 28, 1944		*Ty Cobb Article of May 28, 1944

	[[Category:~~Boxers who served in~~ World War I\|Rose, Charley]]		[[Category:World War I Veterans\|Rose, Charley]]
	[[Category:Managers\|Rose, Charley]]		[[Category:Managers\|Rose, Charley]]
	[[Category:Promoters\|Rose, Charley]]		[[Category:Promoters\|Rose, Charley]]
	[[Category:Trainers\|Rose, Charley]]		[[Category:Trainers\|Rose, Charley]]

Bert: links

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	Dubbed "Broadway" Charley by [[Dan Parker]] because he was credited with being the first to take boxing's management-promotion out of the saloons to the "big street" at Broadway and 49th , renting an office with [[Jack Curley]].		Dubbed "Broadway" Charley by [[Dan Parker]] because he was credited with being the first to take boxing's management-promotion out of the saloons to the "big street" at Broadway and 49th , renting an office with [[Jack Curley]].

	He was involved with the careers of some 82 boxers -- including [[Max Schmeling]], [[Freddie Welsh]], [[Al Roth]], [[Cocoa Kid]], [[Charley Burley]], [[Johnny Rosner]], [[Jimmy Goodrich]], [[Mike McTigue]], [[Paul Berlenbach]], [[Willie Jackson]], [[Boxer:Holman Williams:009968\|Holman Williams]], [[Harry Wills]], [[Fred Fulton]], [[Jack Renault]], [[Carl Morris]], [[Lew Jenkins]], [[Soldier Bartfield]], [[Harry Stone]], [[Bartley Madden]], [[Young Montreal]], [[Sailor Darden]], [[Clem Johnson]], and [[Bill Hood]].		He was involved with the careers of some 82 boxers -- including [[Boxer:Max Schmeling:009041\|Max Schmeling]], [[Freddie Welsh]], [[Al Roth]], [[Boxer:Cocoa Kid:009418\|Cocoa Kid]], [[Boxer:Charley Burley:009004\|Charley Burley]], [[Johnny Rosner]], [[Jimmy Goodrich]], [[Mike McTigue]], [[Paul Berlenbach]], [[Willie Jackson]], [[Boxer:Holman Williams:009968\|Holman Williams]], [[Harry Wills]], [[Fred Fulton]], [[Jack Renault]], [[Carl Morris]], [[Boxer:Lew Jenkins:009466\|Lew Jenkins]], [[Soldier Bartfield]], [[Harry Stone]], [[Bartley Madden]], [[Young Montreal]], [[Sailor Darden]], [[Clem Johnson]], and [[Bill Hood]].

	He died in 1974 in his New York hotel room from inhalation of smoke, from a fire he had accidentally set while smoking a cigar.		He died in 1974 in his New York hotel room from inhalation of smoke, from a fire he had accidentally set while smoking a cigar.

Bert: link

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	Dubbed "Broadway" Charley by [[Dan Parker]] because he was credited with being the first to take boxing's management-promotion out of the saloons to the "big street" at Broadway and 49th , renting an office with [[Jack Curley]].		Dubbed "Broadway" Charley by [[Dan Parker]] because he was credited with being the first to take boxing's management-promotion out of the saloons to the "big street" at Broadway and 49th , renting an office with [[Jack Curley]].

	He was involved with the careers of some 82 boxers -- including [[Max Schmeling]], [[Freddie Welsh]], [[Al Roth]], [[Cocoa Kid]], [[Charley Burley]], [[Johnny Rosner]], [[Jimmy Goodrich]], [[Mike McTigue]], [[Paul Berlenbach]], [[Willie Jackson]], [[Harry Wills]], [[Fred Fulton]], [[Jack Renault]], [[Carl Morris]], [[Lew Jenkins]], [[Soldier Bartfield]], [[Harry Stone]], Bartley Madden]], [[Young Montreal]], [[Sailor Darden]], [[Clem Johnson]], and [[Bill Hood]].		He was involved with the careers of some 82 boxers -- including [[Max Schmeling]], [[Freddie Welsh]], [[Al Roth]], [[Cocoa Kid]], [[Charley Burley]], [[Johnny Rosner]], [[Jimmy Goodrich]], [[Mike McTigue]], [[Paul Berlenbach]], [[Willie Jackson]], [[Boxer:Holman Williams:009968\|Holman Williams]], [[Harry Wills]], [[Fred Fulton]], [[Jack Renault]], [[Carl Morris]], [[Lew Jenkins]], [[Soldier Bartfield]], [[Harry Stone]], [[Bartley Madden]], [[Young Montreal]], [[Sailor Darden]], [[Clem Johnson]], and [[Bill Hood]].

	He died in 1974 in his New York hotel room from inhalation of smoke, from a fire he had accidentally set while smoking a cigar.		He died in 1974 in his New York hotel room from inhalation of smoke, from a fire he had accidentally set while smoking a cigar.

Ric: added more boxers he managed (from REFEREE & REDHEAD, 20 Nov 1943)

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	Dubbed "Broadway" Charley by [[Dan Parker]] because he was credited with being the first to take boxing's management-promotion out of the saloons to the "big street" at Broadway and 49th , renting an office with [[Jack Curley]].		Dubbed "Broadway" Charley by [[Dan Parker]] because he was credited with being the first to take boxing's management-promotion out of the saloons to the "big street" at Broadway and 49th , renting an office with [[Jack Curley]].

	He was involved with the careers of some 82 boxers -- including [[Max Schmeling]], [[Freddie Welsh]], [[Al Roth]], [[Cocoa Kid]], [[Charley Burley]], [[Johnny Rosner]], [[Jimmy Goodrich]], [[Mike McTigue]], [[Paul Berlenbach]], [[Willie Jackson]], [[Harry Wills]], [[Fred Fulton]], [[Jack Renault]], [[Carl Morris]],[[Lew Jenkins]] and [[Bill Hood]].		He was involved with the careers of some 82 boxers -- including [[Max Schmeling]], [[Freddie Welsh]], [[Al Roth]], [[Cocoa Kid]], [[Charley Burley]], [[Johnny Rosner]], [[Jimmy Goodrich]], [[Mike McTigue]], [[Paul Berlenbach]], [[Willie Jackson]], [[Harry Wills]], [[Fred Fulton]], [[Jack Renault]], [[Carl Morris]], [[Lew Jenkins]], [[Soldier Bartfield]], [[Harry Stone]], Bartley Madden]], [[Young Montreal]], [[Sailor Darden]], [[Clem Johnson]], and [[Bill Hood]].

	He died in 1974 in his New York hotel room from inhalation of smoke, from a fire he had accidentally set while smoking a cigar.		He died in 1974 in his New York hotel room from inhalation of smoke, from a fire he had accidentally set while smoking a cigar.

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	== Boxer - Manager - Promoter - Trainer ==		== Boxer - Manager - Promoter - Trainer ==
	[[file:Rose.Charley.jpg\|left\|Broadway Charley Rose]]		[[file:Rose.Charley.jpg\|left\|'Broadway' Charley Rose]]

	'''"Broadway" Charley Rose'''<br>		'''"Broadway" Charley Rose'''<br>
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	Rose prided himself on the fact that he was born on the same day the Statue of Liberty was dedicated. Although his boxing career is little known, apparently he had a respectable featherweight record in the early 1900s. He reportedly was the first boxer to enlist for the United States in World War I. He served with the First Division of the American Expeditiary Forces (AEF) for 20 months, and saw action at Verdun, France, capturing several German soldiers.		'''Charley Rose''' prided himself on the fact that he was born on the same day the Statue of Liberty was dedicated. Although his boxing career is little known, apparently he had a respectable featherweight record in the early 1900s. He reportedly was the first boxer to enlist for the United States in World War I. He served with the First Division of the American Expeditiary Forces (AEF) for 20 months, and saw action at Verdun, France, capturing several German soldiers.

	~~Dubbed~~ "Broadway" Charley by [[Dan Parker]] because he was credited with being the first to take boxing's management-promotion out of the saloons to the "big street" at Broadway and 49th , renting an office with [[Jack Curley]].		He was dubbed "Broadway" Charley by [[Dan Parker]] because he was credited with being the first person to take boxing's management-promotion out of the saloons to the "big street" at Broadway and 49th, renting an office with [[Jack Curley]].

	He was involved with the careers of some 82 boxers -- including [[Max Schmeling]], [[Freddie Welsh]], [[Al Roth]], [[Cocoa Kid]], [[Charley Burley]], [[Johnny (Young) Rosner\|Johnny Rosner]], [[Jimmy Goodrich]], [[Mike McTigue]], [[Paul Berlenbach]], [[Willie Jackson]], [[Holman Williams]], [[Harry Wills]], [[Fred Fulton]], [[Jack Renault]], [[Carl Morris]], [[Lew Jenkins]], [[Soldier Bartfield]], [[Harry Stone]], [[Bartley Madden]], [[Young Montreal]], [[Sailor Darden]], [[Clem Johnson]], and [[Billy Hood\|Bill Hood]].		He was involved with the careers of some 82 boxers--including [[Max Schmeling]], [[Freddie Welsh]], [[Al Roth]], [[Cocoa Kid]], [[Charley Burley]], [[Johnny (Young) Rosner\|Johnny Rosner]], [[Jimmy Goodrich]], [[Mike McTigue]], [[Paul Berlenbach]], [[Willie Jackson]], [[Holman Williams]], [[Harry Wills]], [[Fred Fulton]], [[Jack Renault]], [[Carl Morris]], [[Lew Jenkins]], [[Soldier Bartfield]], [[Harry Stone]], [[Bartley Madden]], [[Young Montreal]], [[Sailor Darden]], [[Clem Johnson]] and [[Billy Hood\|Bill Hood]].

	He died in 1974 in his New York hotel room from inhalation of smoke~~, from~~ a fire he had accidentally set while smoking a cigar.		He died in 1974 in his New York hotel room, from inhalation of smoke of a fire he had accidentally set while smoking a cigar.

	Rose's "All-Time Greatest" ~~Lists~~ are frequently cited to this day. (He considered [[Jim Jeffries]] the greatest heavyweight of all time, after "Studying ~~stength~~, ability, punching power, stamina to fight hard all the way by the end of the 25th round.")		Rose's "All-Time Greatest" lists are frequently cited to this day. (He considered [[Jim Jeffries]] the greatest heavyweight of all time, after "Studying strength, ability, punching power, stamina to fight hard all the way by the end of the 25th round.")


			Sources:
	*''The Ring'', [[Ring_Magazine:_March_1975\|March 1975]], p. 72		*''The Ring'', [[Ring_Magazine:_March_1975\|March 1975]], p. 72
	*Ty Cobb Article of May 28, 1944		*Ty Cobb Article of May 28, 1944