Cleve Hawkins - Revision history

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	'''Cleve Hawkins''' (sometimes spelled ''Harkins'') was an African-American boxer of the early 20th century.		'''Cleve Hawkins''' (sometimes spelled ''Harkins'') was an African-American boxer of the early 20th century.

Delisa at 21:49, 14 March 2019

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	'''Cleve Hawkins''' (sometimes spelled ''Harkins'') was an African-American boxer of the early 20th century.		'''Cleve Hawkins''' (sometimes spelled ''Harkins'') was an African-American boxer of the early 20th century.

			Fought as amateur as late as December 1905 in Chicago.

	There is a Cleve (or Clive) Hawkins in the 1920 census in Berkshire, Mass. He is black and an "athletic trainer." Hawkins had several fights in Massachusetts during that period and the job description seems to match him. The census reports that he was born in 1884 in Kentucky. If Hawkins was born in 1871, then he was between 35 and 53		There is a Cleve (or Clive) Hawkins in the 1920 census in Berkshire, Mass. He is black and an "athletic trainer." Hawkins had several fights in Massachusetts during that period and the job description seems to match him. The census reports that he was born in 1884 in Kentucky. If Hawkins was born in 1871, then he was between 35 and 53

Ric: re-formatted

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	~~CBZ page: [http://cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/hawkins~~-~~cleve~~.~~htm]~~		'''Cleve Hawkins''' (sometimes spelled ''Harkins'') was an African-American boxer of the early 20th century.

			There is a Cleve (or Clive) Hawkins in the 1920 census in Berkshire, Mass. He is black and an "athletic trainer." Hawkins had several fights in Massachusetts during that period and the job description seems to match him. The census reports that he was born in 1884 in Kentucky. If Hawkins was born in 1871, then he was between 35 and 53
			for all the fights in the BoxRec database. If he is born in 1884, then he is between 22 and 40.

	~~[[Category: African American Boxers\|Hawkins~~, ~~Cleve]]~~		Other sources (which?) say he was born in Nigeria. However, it wouldn't be unheard of for a black man of that time to be billed as "Nigerian." In the 1920 census he says he's from Kentucky and so were his parents.

	~~I am pretty sure that I~~'~~ve found~~ Cleve ~~or Clive~~ Hawkins in the 1920 census ~~in Berkshire~~, ~~Mass~~. He is ~~black and an "athletic trainer" and I feel this has to be him~~. ~~Hawkins had several fights~~ in ~~Massachusetts during that period and the job description seems to make it a perfect hit~~.		Hawkins's WWI Draft Card lists him as Cleveland Hawkins of North Adams, Berkshire, black, married to a Margaret (same as the Cleve Hawkins in the 1920 census), and born 25 December 1884. He is listed as a laborer. The draft card is from 12 September 1918; he fought [[Kid Norfolk]] in North Adams on 4 April 1918.

	~~Thing~~ is ~~he is born~~ in ~~1884 in Kentucky. Which I think makes more sense anyway. If Hawkins~~ was ~~born in 1871 then he is between 35~~ and 53		The ''North Adams Transcript'' story about the upcoming Hawkins-Jim McCreary fight of 22 May 1919 says that Cleve Hawkins is from North Adams. (Case in point about the Nigerian theory, the North Adams paper claimed that McCreary was "Liberian" and had come to America only 13 years before. However, he was from North Carolina.)
	~~for all the fights we have for him~~. If he ~~is born in 1884 then he is between 22 and 40~~. ~~(Grover CLEVELAND was running for president in 1884~~)

	~~As for being born in Nigeria, it wouldn't be unheard of for a black man in that time to be billed as "Nigerian"~~. ~~In the 1920 census he says he's from Kentucky and so were his parents~~.		*CBZ page: [http://cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/hawkins-cleve.htm]]
			*Ancestry.com [http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=6061&iid=4301088-00449&fn=Cleve&ln=Hawkins&st=r&ssrc=&pid=102770656]

	~~Later found his WWI Draft Card. It is Cleveland~~ Hawkins ~~of North Adams, Berkshire, black~~, ~~married to a Margaret (same as the~~ Cleve Hawkins in the 1920 census) and born 25 Dec 1884. He is listed as a laborer but I am sure this is the right man. The draft card is from 12 Sept 1918 and he fought Kid Norfolk in North Adams on 4 Apr 1918.		[[Category: African American Boxers\|Hawkins, Cleve]]

	~~Found the North Adams Transcript story about the upcoming Hawkins-Jim McCreary fight 22 May 1919, it says that Cleve Hawkins is from North Adams.~~
	~~(Case in point about the Nigerian theory, the North Adams paper claimed that McCreary was "Liberian" and had come to America only 13 years before, he was from North Carolina).~~

	~~http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=6061&iid=4301088-00449&fn=Cleve&ln=Hawkins&st=r&ssrc=&pid=102770656~~

Daveymac at 00:35, 3 April 2013

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	Found the North Adams Transcript story about the upcoming Hawkins-Jim McCreary fight 22 May 1919, it says that Cleve Hawkins is from North Adams.		Found the North Adams Transcript story about the upcoming Hawkins-Jim McCreary fight 22 May 1919, it says that Cleve Hawkins is from North Adams.
			(Case in point about the Nigerian theory, the North Adams paper claimed that McCreary was "Liberian" and had come to America only 13 years before, he was from North Carolina).

	http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=6061&iid=4301088-00449&fn=Cleve&ln=Hawkins&st=r&ssrc=&pid=102770656		http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=6061&iid=4301088-00449&fn=Cleve&ln=Hawkins&st=r&ssrc=&pid=102770656

Daveymac at 00:34, 3 April 2013

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	As for being born in Nigeria, it wouldn't be unheard of for a black man in that time to be billed as "Nigerian". In the 1920 census he says he's from Kentucky and so were his parents.		As for being born in Nigeria, it wouldn't be unheard of for a black man in that time to be billed as "Nigerian". In the 1920 census he says he's from Kentucky and so were his parents.

			Later found his WWI Draft Card. It is Cleveland Hawkins of North Adams, Berkshire, black, married to a Margaret (same as the Cleve Hawkins in the 1920 census) and born 25 Dec 1884. He is listed as a laborer but I am sure this is the right man. The draft card is from 12 Sept 1918 and he fought Kid Norfolk in North Adams on 4 Apr 1918.

			Found the North Adams Transcript story about the upcoming Hawkins-Jim McCreary fight 22 May 1919, it says that Cleve Hawkins is from North Adams.

	http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=6061&iid=4301088-00449&fn=Cleve&ln=Hawkins&st=r&ssrc=&pid=102770656		http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=6061&iid=4301088-00449&fn=Cleve&ln=Hawkins&st=r&ssrc=&pid=102770656

Daveymac at 00:16, 3 April 2013

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	Thing is he is born in 1884 in Kentucky. Which I think makes more sense anyway. If Hawkins was born in 1871 then he is between 35 and 53		Thing is he is born in 1884 in Kentucky. Which I think makes more sense anyway. If Hawkins was born in 1871 then he is between 35 and 53
	for all the fights we have for him. If he is born in 1884 then he is between 22 and 40.		for all the fights we have for him. If he is born in 1884 then he is between 22 and 40. (Grover CLEVELAND was running for president in 1884)

	As for being born in Nigeria, it wouldn't be unheard of for a black man in that time to be billed as "Nigerian". In the 1920 census he says he's from Kentucky and so were his parents.		As for being born in Nigeria, it wouldn't be unheard of for a black man in that time to be billed as "Nigerian". In the 1920 census he says he's from Kentucky and so were his parents.

	http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=6061&iid=4301088-00449&fn=Cleve&ln=Hawkins&st=r&ssrc=&pid=102770656		http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=6061&iid=4301088-00449&fn=Cleve&ln=Hawkins&st=r&ssrc=&pid=102770656

Daveymac at 00:02, 3 April 2013

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	[[Category: African American Boxers\|Hawkins, Cleve]]		[[Category: African American Boxers\|Hawkins, Cleve]]

			I am pretty sure that I've found Cleve or Clive Hawkins in the 1920 census in Berkshire, Mass. He is black and an "athletic trainer" and I feel this has to be him. Hawkins had several fights in Massachusetts during that period and the job description seems to make it a perfect hit.

			Thing is he is born in 1884 in Kentucky. Which I think makes more sense anyway. If Hawkins was born in 1871 then he is between 35 and 53
			for all the fights we have for him. If he is born in 1884 then he is between 22 and 40.

			As for being born in Nigeria, it wouldn't be unheard of for a black man in that time to be billed as "Nigerian". In the 1920 census he says he's from Kentucky and so were his parents.

			http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=6061&iid=4301088-00449&fn=Cleve&ln=Hawkins&st=r&ssrc=&pid=102770656

Ric: deleted text plagiarized from CBZ (linked to, instead)

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	~~'''Cleve Hawkins''' was a scrappy competitor who had a rough career; He possessed fairly good skills but had the misfortune of fighting in an era of outstanding talent~~		CBZ page: [http://cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/hawkins-cleve.htm]
	~~During his career, Hawkins defeated such men as~~ [~~[Kid Carter~~]~~], [[George Robinson]] and [[Henry Carrese]].~~

	[[Category: African American Boxers\|Hawkins, Cleve]]		[[Category: African American Boxers\|Hawkins, Cleve]]

Ric at 01:18, 7 March 2011

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	'''Cleve Hawkins''' was a scrappy competitor who had a rough career; He possessed fairly good skills but had the misfortune of fighting in an era of outstanding talent		'''Cleve Hawkins''' was a scrappy competitor who had a rough career; He possessed fairly good skills but had the misfortune of fighting in an era of outstanding talent
	During his career, ~~Cleve~~ defeated such men as [[Kid Carter]], [[George Robinson]] and [[Henry Carrese]]		During his career, Hawkins defeated such men as [[Kid Carter]], [[George Robinson]] and [[Henry Carrese]].
	[[Category: African American Boxers\|Hawkins, Cleve]]		[[Category: African American Boxers\|Hawkins, Cleve]]

Fasan at 22:28, 6 March 2011

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	<boxer>53808</boxer>		<boxer>53808</boxer>
			'''Cleve Hawkins''' was a scrappy competitor who had a rough career; He possessed fairly good skills but had the misfortune of fighting in an era of outstanding talent
			During his career, Cleve defeated such men as [[Kid Carter]], [[George Robinson]] and [[Henry Carrese]]
	[[Category: African American Boxers\|Hawkins, Cleve]]		[[Category: African American Boxers\|Hawkins, Cleve]]