Davey Moore vs. Sugar Ramos - Revision history

Earl at 06:57, 26 November 2015

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	* '''[[World Boxing Council]] Featherweight Title'''		* '''[[World Boxing Council]] Featherweight Title'''
	* '''[[World Boxing Association]] Featherweight Title'''		* '''[[World Boxing Association]] Featherweight Title'''



	* Moore died two days later of a whiplash to his brain stem after his neck struck the bottom rope of a three-rope ring.		* Moore died two days later of a whiplash to his brain stem after his neck struck the bottom rope of a three-rope ring.


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	'''San Francisco Chronicle, Friday, July 27, 2001'''		'''San Francisco Chronicle, Friday, July 27, 2001'''

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	otherwise gleaming image of Dodger Stadium, Davey Moore's name means		otherwise gleaming image of Dodger Stadium, Davey Moore's name means
	different things to different people.		different things to different people.
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	To Bob Dylan fans, it's a song lyric(lyrics follow this article). To the anti-boxing crowd, it's a		To Bob Dylan fans, it's a song lyric(lyrics follow this article). To the anti-boxing crowd, it's a
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	the middle rope. Latka was marking his scorecard when Moore manager		the middle rope. Latka was marking his scorecard when Moore manager
	Willie Ketchum signaled that his man couldn't go on.		Willie Ketchum signaled that his man couldn't go on.
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	Nothing appeared to be wrong with Moore, especially in the estimation		Nothing appeared to be wrong with Moore, especially in the estimation
	of Moore. He walked to the dressing room and talked for 40 minutes.		of Moore. He walked to the dressing room and talked for 40 minutes.
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	years. Men continue to die in the ring but not as often as four		years. Men continue to die in the ring but not as often as four
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	'''Who Killed Davey Moore?		'''Who Killed Davey Moore?

Sweetscientist at 23:03, 19 April 2009

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	* '''[[~~WBC~~]] Featherweight Title'''		* '''[[World Boxing Council]] Featherweight Title'''
	* '''[[~~WBA~~]] Featherweight Title '''		* '''[[World Boxing Association]] Featherweight Title'''
	* Weights: 125¼ each


	* Moore died two days later of a whiplash to his brain stem after his neck struck the bottom rope of a three-rope ring.		* Moore died two days later of a whiplash to his brain stem after his neck struck the bottom rope of a three-rope ring.

Rowdytimothy: remove double entry of officials

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	* '''[[WBA]] Featherweight Title '''		* '''[[WBA]] Featherweight Title '''
	* Weights: 125¼ each		* Weights: 125¼ each
	* Referee: [[George Latka]]
	* Moore died two days later of a whiplash to his brain stem after his neck struck the bottom rope of a three-rope ring.		* Moore died two days later of a whiplash to his brain stem after his neck struck the bottom rope of a three-rope ring.

Nwwebber: Fight:66890 moved to Davey Moore vs. Sugar Ramos

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Ric: image added & factoids

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	'''~~San Fransisco Chronicle, Friday, July 27, 2001~~'''		* '''[[WBC]] Featherweight Title'''
			* '''[[WBA]] Featherweight Title '''
			* Weights: 125¼ each
			* Referee: [[George Latka]]
			* Moore died two days later of a whiplash to his brain stem after his neck struck the bottom rope of a three-rope ring.

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			'''San Francisco Chronicle, Friday, July 27, 2001'''

	Los Angeles -- FOUR DECADES after his death left a bloody mark on the		Los Angeles -- FOUR DECADES after his death left a bloody mark on the
	otherwise gleaming image of Dodger Stadium, Davey Moore's name means		otherwise gleaming image of Dodger Stadium, Davey Moore's name means
	different things to different people.		different things to different people.
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	To Bob Dylan fans, it's a song lyric(lyrics follow this article). To the anti-boxing crowd, it's a		To Bob Dylan fans, it's a song lyric(lyrics follow this article). To the anti-boxing crowd, it's a

Pugilist: An account of the Dodger Stadium ring death of Davey Moore

2005-02-19T18:07:37Z

An account of the Dodger Stadium ring death of Davey Moore

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'''San Fransisco Chronicle, Friday, July 27, 2001'''

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Los Angeles -- FOUR DECADES after his death left a bloody mark on the
otherwise gleaming image of Dodger Stadium, Davey Moore's name means
different things to different people.

To Bob Dylan fans, it's a song lyric(lyrics follow this article). To the anti-boxing crowd, it's a
rallying cry that inspired abolition demands and prompted safety-rule
changes. To old-time fight fans, it's a bittersweet memory of a good
man and popular champion lost to an unimaginable fate.

So when Roy Jones Jr. defends his light heavyweight title tomorrow at
Staples Center -- it's a reminder that this sport has a way of leaving
behind unwanted memories.

"(It) has never been done before! Three world championships in our
city!" Los Angeles City Councilman Nate Holden crowed Wednesday at a
news conference to promote this week's Staples Center card headed by
Jones vs. Julio Gonzalez.

But, in fact, it has been done in Los Angeles at least once: On
Thursday, March 21, 1963, 1-year-old Dodger Stadium played host to
title bouts matching featherweight champion Moore against undefeated
No. 1 contender Ultiminio "Sugar" Ramos, welterweight champ Emile
Griffith against No. 1 contender Luis Rodriguez, and welterweights
Battling Torres and Roberto Cruz for the vacant title.

Scheduled for March 16, the card was postponed after wind-blown rain
turned the ring set atop the pitcher's mound into a giant sponge.

The 5-foot-2 1/2 Moore, at 29 and in the fourth year of his title
reign, was having trouble getting down to the featherweights'
126-pound limit.

Nobody involved could claim ignorance of the dangers involved.
Griffith carried the stigma of having killed Benny Paret in a March
1962 match at Madison Square Garden. A boxer named Alejandro Lavorante
lay dying in an L.A. hospital as the result of a September 1962 loss
to Johnny Riggins at the Olympic Auditorium as he tried to bounce back
from knockouts by Cassius Clay and Archie Moore.

But nobody could imagine that happening to Davey Moore, the "Little
Giant" from Springfield, Ohio. Though he no longer wore the aura of
invincibility, having lost six times in 62 pro fights, he had the aura
of indestructibility.

The "tripleheader," hailed by writers of the day as the most ambitious
boxing program ever presented in California, drew more than 26,000
fans paying $5 to $30.

Moore-Ramos went on between Griffith's 15-round loss to Rodriguez and
Cruz's first-round knockout of Torres. Moore dominated the first two
rounds of the scheduled 15.

"The fight had begun as a study in politeness," columnist Melvin
Durslag wrote. "At the end of each of the early rounds, the boys did
more than touch gloves in the sometimes friendly custom of the sport.
They threw their arms around each other as if greeting an immigrant
cousin.

"All the while, a savage war was developing."

Ramos, a 21-year-old Cuban living in Mexico City, took control to the
delight of the largely Latino crowd.

In the 10th, Ramos' left hooks sent Moore into the ropes. A series of
Ramos lefts and rights drove Moore toward the center-field side of the
ring, where a left hook knocked him onto the seat of his shorts, his
head twanging against the lowest of the three ropes. Moore got up as
referee George Latka counted "three," and that rope wouldn't be given
another thought for days.

The bell ended the 10th as Ramos' right hand left Moore slumped over
the middle rope. Latka was marking his scorecard when Moore manager
Willie Ketchum signaled that his man couldn't go on.

Nothing appeared to be wrong with Moore, especially in the estimation
of Moore. He walked to the dressing room and talked for 40 minutes.
"Sure, I want to fight him (Ramos) again," he said, a bloodshot left
eye his only apparent damage. "And I'll get the title back."

The reporters had left when, as friend and sparring partner Ronnie
Wilson described it later, Moore put his hands to his head and said,
"Oh, my head aches." He slumped into unconsciousness.

His wife, Geraldine, who never attended his fights, arrived at White
Memorial Hospital after midnight to hear that Davey had a bruise and
swelling at the base of the brain and that surgery would do no good.

Moore never regained consciousness and died March 25. "It is God's
will," Geraldine said after being awakened with the news. Then she
fainted. Their five children were at home in Ohio.

Neurologists determined the injury could not have been caused by a
punch. Viewing a videotape of the fight, they focused on Moore's fall
against the bottom rope late in the 10th round. In what a doctor
called a "million-to-one" accident, the rope had struck Moore like an
expert karate blow.

California Gov. Pat Brown asked the legislature to ban "this so-called
sport." The Vatican newspaper condemned boxing as "morally illicit."
Dylan's 1964 song, "Who Killed Davey Moore?" skewered all of boxing --
from "the referee" to "the boxing writer" -- for trying to avoid
blame.

Moore's death changed boxing only slightly. California officials
ordered ring ropes padded, a fourth rope added and the bottom rope
loosened in an attempt to prevent similar damage from a fighter
striking his head, said Johnny Flores Jr., whose L.A.-based
MasterBuilt Boxing Ropes and Equipment built the Staples Center ring.

In many small ways like that, boxing has been made safer over the
years. Men continue to die in the ring but not as often as four
decades ago.

'''Who Killed Davey Moore?
by Bob Dylan
'''

Who killed Davey Moore,
Why an' what's the reason for?

"Not I," says the referee,
"Don't point your finger at me.
I could've stopped it in the eighth
An' maybe kept him from his fate,
But the crowd would've booed, I'm sure,
At not gettin' their money's worth.
It's too bad he had to go,
But there was a pressure on me too, you know.
It wasn't me that made him fall.
No, you can't blame me at all."

Who killed Davey Moore,
Why an' what's the reason for?

"Not us," says the angry crowd,
Whose screams filled the arena loud.
"It's too bad he died that night
But we just like to see a fight.
We didn't mean for him t' meet his death,
We just meant to see some sweat,
There ain't nothing wrong in that.
It wasn't us that made him fall.
No, you can't blame us at all."

Who killed Davey Moore,
Why an' what's the reason for?

"Not me," says his manager,
Puffing on a big cigar.
"It's hard to say, it's hard to tell,
I always thought that he was well.
It's too bad for his wife an' kids he's dead,
But if he was sick, he should've said.
It wasn't me that made him fall.
No, you can't blame me at all."

Who killed Davey Moore,
Why an' what's the reason for?

"Not me," says the gambling man,
With his ticket stub still in his hand.
"It wasn't me that knocked him down,
My hands never touched him none.
I didn't commit no ugly sin,
Anyway, I put money on him to win.
It wasn't me that made him fall.
No, you can't blame me at all."

Who killed Davey Moore,
Why an' what's the reason for?

"Not me," says the boxing writer,
Pounding print on his old typewriter,
Sayin', "Boxing ain't to blame,
There's just as much danger in a football game."
Sayin', "Fist fighting is here to stay,
It's just the old American way.
It wasn't me that made him fall.
No, you can't blame me at all."

Who killed Davey Moore,
Why an' what's the reason for?

"Not me," says the man whose fists
Laid him low in a cloud of mist,
Who came here from Cuba's door
Where boxing ain't allowed no more.
"I hit him, yes, it's true,
But that's what I am paid to do.
Don't say 'murder,' don't say 'kill.'
It was destiny, it was God's will."

Who killed Davey Moore,
Why an' what's the reason for?

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