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Wasserman at 15:46, 14 May 2016

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	Larry Donaldson of the staff of the Panama Morning Journal wrote to the New London's ''The Day'' that "he (Abe)was much stronger than (Kid) Bain at the finish and practically fought Bain to a standstill in the last five rounds. The work of the referee in this bout was very poor and the consensus of opinion was that Abe should have received the decision." The writer wrote Abe was "the most popular boxer that ever struck here", and that he was drawing bigger crowds than in his first appearance in Panama. Donaldson also seemed to be of the impression that the fight was ruled a Draw, not a Win for Hollandersky, as seems to be indicated here by BoxRec. The newspaper ruling of the ''Panama Morning Journal'' apparently, would have been a win for Abe, as indicated.		Larry Donaldson of the staff of the Panama Morning Journal wrote to the New London's ''The Day'' that "he (Abe)was much stronger than (Kid) Bain at the finish and practically fought Bain to a standstill in the last five rounds. The work of the referee in this bout was very poor and the consensus of opinion was that Abe should have received the decision." The writer wrote Abe was "the most popular boxer that ever struck here", and that he was drawing bigger crowds than in his first appearance in Panama. Donaldson also seemed to be of the impression that the fight was ruled a Draw, not a Win for Hollandersky, as seems to be indicated here by BoxRec. The newspaper ruling of Larry Donaldson of the ''Panama Morning Journal'' apparently, would have been a win for Abe, as indicated. ("Abe the Newsboy Boxing in Panama", ''The Day'', New London, CT, p. 10, 28 March 1917)

	Kid Bain had competed twice for the Panamanian welterweight title against Terry Richards, drawing with him both times. Panama Joe Gans may have actually held the Panamanian Welterweight Title when Kid Bain beat him on a disqualification on July 16, 1916. Possibly for this reason, and the close fight that Abe gave Bain may have prompted some to declare that Abe had won the Panamanian Welterweight title by the nature of his close bout with Bain or his close draw bout with welterweight Eddie Ryan in Panama on February 23, 1914, but this never occurred officially. Ryan had never officially held the Panamanian Welterweight title. Some of Abe's bios listed him as a Welterweight champion of the Isthmus, which he was not officially, at least he never held that title, though he could have been considered a contender for that title.		Kid Bain had competed twice for the Panamanian welterweight title against Terry Richards, drawing with him both times. Panama Joe Gans may have actually held the Panamanian Welterweight Title when Kid Bain beat him on a disqualification on July 16, 1916. Possibly for this reason, and the close fight that Abe gave Bain may have prompted some to declare that Abe had won the Panamanian Welterweight title by the nature of his close bout with Bain or his close draw bout with welterweight Eddie Ryan in Panama on February 23, 1914, but this never occurred officially. Ryan had never officially held the Panamanian Welterweight title. Some of Abe's bios listed him as a Welterweight champion of the Isthmus, which he was not officially, at least he never held that title, though he could have been considered a contender for that title.

Wasserman at 15:41, 14 May 2016

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	Larry Donaldson of the staff of the Panama Morning Journal wrote to the New London's ''The Day'' that "he (Abe)was much stronger than (Kid) Bain at the finish and practically fought Bain to a standstill in the last five rounds. The work of the referee in this bout was very poor and the consensus of opinion was that Abe should have received the decision." The writer wrote Abe was "the most popular boxer that ever struck here", and that he was drawing bigger crowds than in his first appearance in Panama. Donaldson also seemed to be of the impression that the fight was ruled a Draw, not a Win for Hollandersky, as seems to be indicated here. The newspaper ruling of the Panama Morning Journal apparently ~~appears~~, would have been a win for Abe, as indicated.		Larry Donaldson of the staff of the Panama Morning Journal wrote to the New London's ''The Day'' that "he (Abe)was much stronger than (Kid) Bain at the finish and practically fought Bain to a standstill in the last five rounds. The work of the referee in this bout was very poor and the consensus of opinion was that Abe should have received the decision." The writer wrote Abe was "the most popular boxer that ever struck here", and that he was drawing bigger crowds than in his first appearance in Panama. Donaldson also seemed to be of the impression that the fight was ruled a Draw, not a Win for Hollandersky, as seems to be indicated here by BoxRec. The newspaper ruling of the ''Panama Morning Journal'' apparently, would have been a win for Abe, as indicated.

	Kid Bain had competed twice for the Panamanian welterweight title against Terry Richards, drawing with him both times. Panama Joe Gans may have actually held the Panamanian Welterweight Title when Kid Bain beat him on a disqualification on July 16, 1916. Possibly for this reason, and the close fight that Abe gave Bain may have prompted some to declare that Abe had won the Panamanian Welterweight title by the nature of his close bout with Bain or his close draw bout with welterweight Eddie Ryan in Panama on February 23, 1914, but this never occurred officially. Ryan had ~~just beaten Panama Joe Gans in a sanctioned bout for~~ the Panamanian Welterweight ~~Championship, but because of the nature of the first round knockout, some had considered the bout "fixed" and that Gans had taken a "dive"~~. Some of Abe's bios listed him as a Welterweight champion of the Isthmus, which he was not officially, at least he never held that title, though he could have been considered a contender for that title.		Kid Bain had competed twice for the Panamanian welterweight title against Terry Richards, drawing with him both times. Panama Joe Gans may have actually held the Panamanian Welterweight Title when Kid Bain beat him on a disqualification on July 16, 1916. Possibly for this reason, and the close fight that Abe gave Bain may have prompted some to declare that Abe had won the Panamanian Welterweight title by the nature of his close bout with Bain or his close draw bout with welterweight Eddie Ryan in Panama on February 23, 1914, but this never occurred officially. Ryan had never officially held the Panamanian Welterweight title. Some of Abe's bios listed him as a Welterweight champion of the Isthmus, which he was not officially, at least he never held that title, though he could have been considered a contender for that title.

Wasserman at 15:35, 14 May 2016

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	Larry Donaldson of the staff of the Panama Morning Journal wrote to the New London's ''The Day'' that "he (Abe)was much stronger than (Kid) Bain at the finish and practically fought Bain to a standstill in the last five rounds. The work of the referee in this bout was very poor and the consensus of opinion was that Abe should have received the decision." The writer wrote Abe was "the most popular boxer that ever struck here", and that he was drawing bigger crowds than in his first appearance in Panama.		Larry Donaldson of the staff of the Panama Morning Journal wrote to the New London's ''The Day'' that "he (Abe)was much stronger than (Kid) Bain at the finish and practically fought Bain to a standstill in the last five rounds. The work of the referee in this bout was very poor and the consensus of opinion was that Abe should have received the decision." The writer wrote Abe was "the most popular boxer that ever struck here", and that he was drawing bigger crowds than in his first appearance in Panama. Donaldson also seemed to be of the impression that the fight was ruled a Draw, not a Win for Hollandersky, as seems to be indicated here. The newspaper ruling of the Panama Morning Journal apparently appears, would have been a win for Abe, as indicated.

	Kid Bain had competed twice for the Panamanian welterweight title against Terry Richards, drawing with him both times. Panama Joe Gans may have actually held the Panamanian Welterweight Title when Kid Bain beat him on a disqualification on July 16, 1916. Possibly for this reason, and the close fight that Abe gave Bain may have prompted some to declare that Abe had won the Panamanian Welterweight title by the nature of his close bout with Bain or his close draw bout with welterweight Eddie Ryan in Panama on February 23, 1914, but this never occurred officially. Ryan had just beaten Panama Joe Gans in a sanctioned bout for the Panamanian Welterweight Championship, but because of the nature of the first round knockout, some had considered the bout "fixed" and that Gans had taken a "dive". Some of Abe's bios listed him as a Welterweight champion of the Isthmus, which he was not officially, at least he never held that title, though he could have been considered a contender for that title.		Kid Bain had competed twice for the Panamanian welterweight title against Terry Richards, drawing with him both times. Panama Joe Gans may have actually held the Panamanian Welterweight Title when Kid Bain beat him on a disqualification on July 16, 1916. Possibly for this reason, and the close fight that Abe gave Bain may have prompted some to declare that Abe had won the Panamanian Welterweight title by the nature of his close bout with Bain or his close draw bout with welterweight Eddie Ryan in Panama on February 23, 1914, but this never occurred officially. Ryan had just beaten Panama Joe Gans in a sanctioned bout for the Panamanian Welterweight Championship, but because of the nature of the first round knockout, some had considered the bout "fixed" and that Gans had taken a "dive". Some of Abe's bios listed him as a Welterweight champion of the Isthmus, which he was not officially, at least he never held that title, though he could have been considered a contender for that title.

Wasserman at 15:21, 14 May 2016

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	Larry Donaldson of the staff of the Panama Morning Journal wrote to the New London's ''The Day'' that "he (Abe)was much stronger than (Kid) Bain at the finish and practically fought Bain to a standstill in the last five rounds. The work of the referee in this bout was very poor and the consensus of opinion was that Abe should have received the decision." The writer wrote Abe was "the most popular boxer that ever struck here", and that he was drawing bigger crowds than in his first appearance in Panama.		Larry Donaldson of the staff of the Panama Morning Journal wrote to the New London's ''The Day'' that "he (Abe)was much stronger than (Kid) Bain at the finish and practically fought Bain to a standstill in the last five rounds. The work of the referee in this bout was very poor and the consensus of opinion was that Abe should have received the decision." The writer wrote Abe was "the most popular boxer that ever struck here", and that he was drawing bigger crowds than in his first appearance in Panama.

	Kid Bain had competed twice for the Panamanian welterweight title against Terry Richards, drawing with him both times. Panama Joe Gans may have actually held the Panamanian Welterweight Title when Kid Bain beat him on a disqualification on July 16, 1916. Possibly for this reason, and the close fight that Abe gave Bain may have prompted some to declare that Abe had won the Panamanian Welterweight title by the nature of his close bout with Bain or his close draw bout with welterweight Eddie Ryan in Panama on February 23, 1914, but this never occurred officially. Ryan had just beaten Panama Joe Gans in a sanctioned bout for the Panamanian Welterweight Championship, but because of the nature of the first round knockout, some had considered the bout "fixed" and that Gans had taken a "dive". Some of Abe's bios listed him as a Welterweight champion of the Isthmus, which was not officially, at least he never held that title, though he could have been considered a contender for that title.		Kid Bain had competed twice for the Panamanian welterweight title against Terry Richards, drawing with him both times. Panama Joe Gans may have actually held the Panamanian Welterweight Title when Kid Bain beat him on a disqualification on July 16, 1916. Possibly for this reason, and the close fight that Abe gave Bain may have prompted some to declare that Abe had won the Panamanian Welterweight title by the nature of his close bout with Bain or his close draw bout with welterweight Eddie Ryan in Panama on February 23, 1914, but this never occurred officially. Ryan had just beaten Panama Joe Gans in a sanctioned bout for the Panamanian Welterweight Championship, but because of the nature of the first round knockout, some had considered the bout "fixed" and that Gans had taken a "dive". Some of Abe's bios listed him as a Welterweight champion of the Isthmus, which he was not officially, at least he never held that title, though he could have been considered a contender for that title.

Wasserman at 15:21, 14 May 2016

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	Larry Donaldson of the staff of the Panama Morning Journal wrote to the New London's ''The Day'' that "he (Abe)was much stronger than (Kid) Bain at the finish and practically fought Bain to a standstill in the last five rounds. The work of the referee in this bout was very poor and the consensus of opinion was that Abe should have received the decision." The writer wrote Abe was "the most popular boxer that ever struck here", and that he was drawing bigger crowds than in his first appearance in Panama.		Larry Donaldson of the staff of the Panama Morning Journal wrote to the New London's ''The Day'' that "he (Abe)was much stronger than (Kid) Bain at the finish and practically fought Bain to a standstill in the last five rounds. The work of the referee in this bout was very poor and the consensus of opinion was that Abe should have received the decision." The writer wrote Abe was "the most popular boxer that ever struck here", and that he was drawing bigger crowds than in his first appearance in Panama.

	Kid Bain had competed twice for the Panamanian welterweight title against Terry Richards, drawing with him both times. Panama Joe Gans may have actually held the Panamanian Welterweight Title when Kid Bain beat him on a disqualification on July 16, 1916. Possibly for this reason, and the close fight that Abe gave Bain may have prompted some to declare that Abe had won the Panamanian Welterweight title by the nature of his close bout with Bain or his close draw bout with welterweight Eddie Ryan in Panama on February 23, 1914, but this never occurred officially.		Kid Bain had competed twice for the Panamanian welterweight title against Terry Richards, drawing with him both times. Panama Joe Gans may have actually held the Panamanian Welterweight Title when Kid Bain beat him on a disqualification on July 16, 1916. Possibly for this reason, and the close fight that Abe gave Bain may have prompted some to declare that Abe had won the Panamanian Welterweight title by the nature of his close bout with Bain or his close draw bout with welterweight Eddie Ryan in Panama on February 23, 1914, but this never occurred officially. Ryan had just beaten Panama Joe Gans in a sanctioned bout for the Panamanian Welterweight Championship, but because of the nature of the first round knockout, some had considered the bout "fixed" and that Gans had taken a "dive". Some of Abe's bios listed him as a Welterweight champion of the Isthmus, which was not officially, at least he never held that title, though he could have been considered a contender for that title.

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Larry Donaldson of the staff of the Panama Morning Journal wrote to the New London's ''The Day'' that "he (Abe)was much stronger than (Kid) Bain at the finish and practically fought Bain to a standstill in the last five rounds. The work of the referee in this bout was very poor and the consensus of opinion was that Abe should have received the decision." The writer wrote Abe was "the most popular boxer that ever struck here", and that he was drawing bigger crowds than in his first appearance in Panama.

Kid Bain had competed twice for the Panamanian welterweight title against Terry Richards, drawing with him both times. Panama Joe Gans may have actually held the Panamanian Welterweight Title when Kid Bain beat him on a disqualification on July 16, 1916. Possibly for this reason, and the close fight that Abe gave Bain may have prompted some to declare that Abe had won the Panamanian Welterweight title by the nature of his close bout with Bain or his close draw bout with welterweight Eddie Ryan in Panama on February 23, 1914, but this never occurred officially.