Fritz Holland - Revision history

Ric: lots more material added; articles linked

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lots more material added; articles linked

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	'''Fritz Holland''' started his boxing career under his birth name of Fred Creel as a long-time and successful member, instructor, and eventual Asst. Director of the Spokane Amateur Athletic Club in Spokane, Washington, during the very early 1900s. [http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn88085947/1909-12-14/ed-1/seq-12/]		'''Managers:''' [[Cisco Bullivant]] [http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn88085947/1910-01-08/ed-1/seq-10/][http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn88085947/1910-01-22/ed-1/seq-8/]; [[Jimmy Powell]] [http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn88085947/1910-03-06/ed-1/seq-16/]

			'''Fritz Holland''', the "Flying Dutchman," started his boxing career under his birth name of Fred Creel as a long-time and successful member, instructor, and eventual Asst. Director of the Spokane Amateur Athletic Club in Spokane, Washington, during the very early 1900s. [http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn88085947/1909-12-14/ed-1/seq-12/]

			He embarked on a professional boxing career around February 1910. [http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn88085947/1910-03-13/ed-1/seq-16/] [http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn88085947/1910-02-14/ed-1/seq-8/][http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn88085947/1910-02-18/ed-1/seq-10/] [http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn88085947/1910-01-05/ed-1/seq-8/][http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/search/pages/results/?date1=1910&rows=20&searchType=basic&state=Washington&date2=1910&proxtext=Fritz+Holland&y=12&x=18&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1&sort=relevance]. He trained with [[Victor McLaglen]], the future Oscar-winning actor. [http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn88085947/1910-01-18/ed-1/seq-8/]. By later that year, Holland was headquartered in Rossland, British Columbia. [http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn88085947/1910-09-28/ed-2/seq-3/][http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn88085947/1910-11-08/ed-1/seq-3/]

	Not only was he a talented boxer, but he had been a vaudeville entertainer and musician--playing every instrument in band and orchestra. He was also a boxing manager, for [[Joe Reager]].		Not only was he a talented boxer, but he had been a vaudeville entertainer and musician--playing every instrument in band and orchestra. He was also a boxing manager, for [[Joe Reager]].
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	:His name was Herbert Creel, a Methodist minister. Fritz Holland's true name was Fred Creel. He originally was going to become a minister, too. His father was transferred to Washington state when Fred was 12-years-old.		:His name was Herbert Creel, a Methodist minister. Fritz Holland's true name was Fred Creel. He originally was going to become a minister, too. His father was transferred to Washington state when Fred was 12-years-old.

	:His first bout was when he was 13-years-old. Reportedly this occurred Thanksgiving Day (Nov. 22?). He won a 15-rounder against Earl Phillips, but Holland did not consider this a professional bout. After graduating from high school, he was sent to Daly's Military Academy in California for three years. He continued boxing there, then returned to Spokane. He turned professional in 1910 and went to San Francisco. [BoxRec note: According to the Feb. 9, 1910 ''Spokane Press'', Holland had just turned professional~~, and~~ appears to have ~~had at least one win~~, ~~by KO, to his credit~~. [http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn88085947/1910-02-09/ed-1/seq-8/].]		:His first bout was when he was 13-years-old. Reportedly this occurred Thanksgiving Day (Nov. 22?). He won a 15-rounder against Earl Phillips, but Holland did not consider this a professional bout. After graduating from high school, he was sent to Daly's Military Academy in California for three years. He continued boxing there, then returned to Spokane. He turned professional in 1910 and went to San Francisco. [BoxRec note: According to the Feb. 9, 1910 ''Spokane Press'', Holland had just turned professional. [http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn88085947/1910-02-09/ed-1/seq-8/]. His Jan. 20th KO win over Jim McPherson appears to have an exhibition, however. [http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn88085947/1910-01-19/ed-1/seq-8/][http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn88085947/1910-01-21/ed-1/seq-10/]]

	:He chose the name Fritz Holland, due to his parents' objections to his boxing. Jimmy Cassell, the sporting editor for the ''Spokane Spokeman-Review'', who was assisting in a boxing tournament that Creel was entering, suggested--as Clarence English and Frank Ireland were entered, and there were quite a number of Hollanders in the Spokane area--that Creel adopt the name of Fritz Holland. Holland ultimately won the tourney. His parents eventually withdrew their objections to his boxing.		:He chose the name Fritz Holland, due to his parents' objections to his boxing. Jimmy Cassell, the sporting editor for the ''Spokane Spokeman-Review'', who was assisting in a boxing tournament that Creel was entering, suggested--as Clarence English and Frank Ireland were entered, and there were quite a number of Hollanders in the Spokane area--that Creel adopt the name of Fritz Holland. Holland ultimately won the tourney. His parents eventually withdrew their objections to his boxing. (BoxRec note: he adopted the name Jan. 2, 1910: [http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn88085947/1910-01-03/ed-1/seq-8/].)

	By 1921 he was living in Wellington, New Zealand, where he had opened a gym. [http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=NZTR19210402.2.45.4]		By 1921 he was living in Wellington, New Zealand, where he had opened a gym. [http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=NZTR19210402.2.45.4]

Ric: Jan 1910: pro debut? see linked article

2013-08-20T17:25:43Z

Jan 1910: pro debut? see linked article

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	:His name was Herbert Creel, a Methodist minister. Fritz Holland's true name was Fred Creel. He originally was going to become a minister, too. His father was transferred to Washington state when Fred was 12-years-old.		:His name was Herbert Creel, a Methodist minister. Fritz Holland's true name was Fred Creel. He originally was going to become a minister, too. His father was transferred to Washington state when Fred was 12-years-old.

	:His first bout was when he was 13-years-old. Reportedly this occurred Thanksgiving Day (Nov. 22?). He won a 15-rounder against Earl Phillips, but Holland did not consider this a professional bout. After graduating from high school, he was sent to Daly's Military Academy in California for three years. He continued boxing there, then returned to Spokane. He turned professional in 1910 and went to San Francisco.		:His first bout was when he was 13-years-old. Reportedly this occurred Thanksgiving Day (Nov. 22?). He won a 15-rounder against Earl Phillips, but Holland did not consider this a professional bout. After graduating from high school, he was sent to Daly's Military Academy in California for three years. He continued boxing there, then returned to Spokane. He turned professional in 1910 and went to San Francisco. [BoxRec note: According to the Feb. 9, 1910 ''Spokane Press'', Holland had just turned professional, and appears to have had at least one win, by KO, to his credit. [http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn88085947/1910-02-09/ed-1/seq-8/].]

	:He chose the name Fritz Holland, due to his parents' objections to his boxing. Jimmy Cassell, the sporting editor for the ''Spokane Spokeman-Review'', who was assisting in a boxing tournament that Creel was entering, suggested--as Clarence English and Frank Ireland were entered, and there were quite a number of Hollanders in the Spokane area--that Creel adopt the name of Fritz Holland. Holland ultimately won the tourney. His parents eventually withdrew their objections to his boxing.		:He chose the name Fritz Holland, due to his parents' objections to his boxing. Jimmy Cassell, the sporting editor for the ''Spokane Spokeman-Review'', who was assisting in a boxing tournament that Creel was entering, suggested--as Clarence English and Frank Ireland were entered, and there were quite a number of Hollanders in the Spokane area--that Creel adopt the name of Fritz Holland. Holland ultimately won the tourney. His parents eventually withdrew their objections to his boxing.

Ric: external newspaper article linked

2013-08-15T16:57:32Z

external newspaper article linked

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	'''Fritz Holland''' started his boxing career under his birth name of Fred Creel as a long-time and successful member, instructor, and eventual Asst. Director of the Spokane Amateur Athletic Club in Spokane, Washington, during the very early 1900s.		'''Fritz Holland''' started his boxing career under his birth name of Fred Creel as a long-time and successful member, instructor, and eventual Asst. Director of the Spokane Amateur Athletic Club in Spokane, Washington, during the very early 1900s. [http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn88085947/1909-12-14/ed-1/seq-12/]

	Not only was he a talented boxer, but he had been a vaudeville entertainer and musician--playing every instrument in band and orchestra. He was also a boxing manager, for [[Joe Reager]].		Not only was he a talented boxer, but he had been a vaudeville entertainer and musician--playing every instrument in band and orchestra. He was also a boxing manager, for [[Joe Reager]].

Ric: external newspaper article cited/linked

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external newspaper article cited/linked

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	*The above photo shows Holland wearing a Star of David on his trunks. Was he Jewish?		*The above photo shows Holland wearing a Star of David on his trunks. Was he Jewish?
			*Feb. 20, 1910 ''Spokane Press'' [http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn88085947/1910-02-20/ed-1/seq-6/]
	*Online newspaper search results: [http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/search/pages/results/?state=Washington&date1=1907&date2=1922&proxtext=Fred%2BCreel&x=17&y=10&dateFilterType=yearRange&rows=20&searchType=basic][https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Fred+Creel%22&tbs=nws:1,ar:1&source=newspapers]		*Online newspaper search results: [http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/search/pages/results/?state=Washington&date1=1907&date2=1922&proxtext=Fred%2BCreel&x=17&y=10&dateFilterType=yearRange&rows=20&searchType=basic][https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Fred+Creel%22&tbs=nws:1,ar:1&source=newspapers]

	[[Category:Managers\|Holland, Fritz]]		[[Category:Managers\|Holland, Fritz]]

Ric at 03:08, 13 July 2013

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	'''Fritz Holland''' started his boxing career under his birth name of Fred Creel as a long-time and successful member, instructor, and eventual Asst. Director of the Spokane Amateur Athletic Club in Spokane, Washington, during the very early 1900s.		'''Fritz Holland''' started his boxing career under his birth name of Fred Creel as a long-time and successful member, instructor, and eventual Asst. Director of the Spokane Amateur Athletic Club in Spokane, Washington, during the very early 1900s.

	Not only was he a talented boxer, but he had been a vaudeville entertainer and musician--playing every instrument in band and orchestra. He also ~~managed boxer~~ [[Joe Reager]].		Not only was he a talented boxer, but he had been a vaudeville entertainer and musician--playing every instrument in band and orchestra. He was also a boxing manager, for [[Joe Reager]].

	From the March 16, 1916 ''Tacoma Daily News'' (Tacoma, WA, USA), in the article "How ~~'''~~Fritz Holland~~'''~~ Started at Boxing":<br>		From the March 16, 1916 ''Tacoma Daily News'' (Tacoma, WA, USA), in the article "How Fritz Holland Started at Boxing":<br>
	:His mother was Irish, and her maiden name was Maria Ellord. His father's parents were both English.		:His mother was Irish, and her maiden name was Maria Ellord. His father's parents were both English.

Ric at 21:34, 10 July 2013

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	'''Fritz Holland''' started his boxing career under his birth name of Fred Creel as a long-time and successful member, instructor, and eventual Asst. Director of the Spokane Amateur Athletic Club in Spokane, Washington, during the very early 1900s.		'''Fritz Holland''' started his boxing career under his birth name of Fred Creel as a long-time and successful member, instructor, and eventual Asst. Director of the Spokane Amateur Athletic Club in Spokane, Washington, during the very early 1900s.

	Not only was he a talented boxer, but he had been a vaudeville entertainer and musician--playing every instrument in band and orchestra. He ~~only~~ managed boxer [[Joe Reager]].		Not only was he a talented boxer, but he had been a vaudeville entertainer and musician--playing every instrument in band and orchestra. He also managed boxer [[Joe Reager]].

	From the March 16, 1916 ''Tacoma Daily News'' (Tacoma, WA, USA), in the article "How '''Fritz Holland''' Started at Boxing":<br>		From the March 16, 1916 ''Tacoma Daily News'' (Tacoma, WA, USA), in the article "How '''Fritz Holland''' Started at Boxing":<br>

Ric at 18:40, 10 July 2013

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			'''Fritz Holland''' started his boxing career under his birth name of Fred Creel as a long-time and successful member, instructor, and eventual Asst. Director of the Spokane Amateur Athletic Club in Spokane, Washington, during the very early 1900s.

			Not only was he a talented boxer, but he had been a vaudeville entertainer and musician--playing every instrument in band and orchestra. He only managed boxer [[Joe Reager]].

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	From the March 16, 1916 ''Tacoma Daily News'' (Tacoma, WA, USA), in the article "How '''Fritz Holland''' Started at Boxing":<br>		From the March 16, 1916 ''Tacoma Daily News'' (Tacoma, WA, USA), in the article "How '''Fritz Holland''' Started at Boxing":<br>
	His mother was Irish, and her maiden name was Maria Ellord. His father's parents were both English.		:His mother was Irish, and her maiden name was Maria Ellord. His father's parents were both English.
	His name was Herbert Creel, a Methodist minister. Fritz Holland's true name was Fred Creel. He originally was going to become a minister, too. His father was transferred to Washington state when Fred was 12-years-old.

	His ~~first bout~~ was ~~when he was 13-years-old. Reportedly this occurred Thanksgiving Day (Nov. 22?). He won a 15-rounder against Earl Phillips~~, ~~but Holland did not consider this~~ a ~~professional bout~~. ~~After graduating from high school, he was sent to Daly~~'s ~~Military Academy in California for three years~~. He ~~continued boxing there~~, ~~then returned to Spokane~~. ~~He turned professional in 1910 and went~~ to ~~San Francisco~~.		:His name was Herbert Creel, a Methodist minister. Fritz Holland's true name was Fred Creel. He originally was going to become a minister, too. His father was transferred to Washington state when Fred was 12-years-old.

	He ~~chose the name Fritz~~ Holland, ~~due~~ to ~~his parents~~' ~~objections to his~~ boxing~~. Jimmy Cassell~~, ~~the sporting editor for the ''~~Spokane ~~Spokeman-Review'', who was assisting~~ in ~~a boxing tournament that Creel was entering, suggested--as Clarence English~~ and Frank Ireland were entered, and there were quite a number of Hollanders in the Spokane area--that Creel adopt the name of Fritz Holland. Holland ultimately won the tourney. His parents eventually withdrew their objections to ~~his boxing~~.		:His first bout was when he was 13-years-old. Reportedly this occurred Thanksgiving Day (Nov. 22?). He won a 15-rounder against Earl Phillips, but Holland did not consider this a professional bout. After graduating from high school, he was sent to Daly's Military Academy in California for three years. He continued boxing there, then returned to Spokane. He turned professional in 1910 and went to San Francisco.

			:He chose the name Fritz Holland, due to his parents' objections to his boxing. Jimmy Cassell, the sporting editor for the ''Spokane Spokeman-Review'', who was assisting in a boxing tournament that Creel was entering, suggested--as Clarence English and Frank Ireland were entered, and there were quite a number of Hollanders in the Spokane area--that Creel adopt the name of Fritz Holland. Holland ultimately won the tourney. His parents eventually withdrew their objections to his boxing.

			By 1921 he was living in Wellington, New Zealand, where he had opened a gym. [http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=NZTR19210402.2.45.4]
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	(The above photo shows Holland wearing a Star of David on his trunks. Was he Jewish?)		*The above photo shows Holland wearing a Star of David on his trunks. Was he Jewish?
			*Online newspaper search results: [http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/search/pages/results/?state=Washington&date1=1907&date2=1922&proxtext=Fred%2BCreel&x=17&y=10&dateFilterType=yearRange&rows=20&searchType=basic][https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Fred+Creel%22&tbs=nws:1,ar:1&source=newspapers]

			[[Category:Managers\|Holland, Fritz]]

Ric: Okay, so I'm compulsive about having the text be "perfect"

2008-12-07T03:15:27Z

Okay, so I'm compulsive about having the text be "perfect"

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	His name was Herbert Creel, a Methodist minister. Fritz Holland's true name was Fred Creel. He originally was going to become a minister, too. His father was transferred to Washington state when Fred was 12-years-old.		His name was Herbert Creel, a Methodist minister. Fritz Holland's true name was Fred Creel. He originally was going to become a minister, too. His father was transferred to Washington state when Fred was 12-years-old.

	His first bout was when he was 13-years-old. Reportedly this occurred Thanksgiving Day (Nov. 22?). He won a 15-rounder against Earl Phillips, but Holland did not consider this a professional bout. After graduating from high school, he was sent to Daly's Military ~~academy~~ in California for three years.He continued boxing there, then returned to Spokane. He turned professional in 1910 and went to San Francisco.		His first bout was when he was 13-years-old. Reportedly this occurred Thanksgiving Day (Nov. 22?). He won a 15-rounder against Earl Phillips, but Holland did not consider this a professional bout. After graduating from high school, he was sent to Daly's Military Academy in California for three years. He continued boxing there, then returned to Spokane. He turned professional in 1910 and went to San Francisco.

	He chose the name Fritz Holland, due to his parents' objections to his boxing. Jimmy Cassell, the sporting editor for the ''Spokane Spokeman-Review'', who was assisting in a boxing tournament that Creel was entering, suggested ~~that~~--as Clarence English and Frank Ireland were entered, and as there were quite a number of Hollanders in the Spokane area--he adopt the name of Fritz Holland. He ultimately won the tourney. His parents eventually withdrew their objections to his boxing.		He chose the name Fritz Holland, due to his parents' objections to his boxing. Jimmy Cassell, the sporting editor for the ''Spokane Spokeman-Review'', who was assisting in a boxing tournament that Creel was entering, suggested--as Clarence English and Frank Ireland were entered, and there were quite a number of Hollanders in the Spokane area--that Creel adopt the name of Fritz Holland. Holland ultimately won the tourney. His parents eventually withdrew their objections to his boxing.

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	(The above photo shows Holland wearing a Star of David on his trunks. Was he Jewish?)		(The above photo shows Holland wearing a Star of David on his trunks. Was he Jewish?)

Ric: typo

2008-12-07T03:10:56Z

typo

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	His name was Herbert Creel, a Methodist minister. Fritz Holland's true name was Fred Creel. He originally was going to become a minister, too. His father was transferred to Washington state when Fred was 12-years-old.		His name was Herbert Creel, a Methodist minister. Fritz Holland's true name was Fred Creel. He originally was going to become a minister, too. His father was transferred to Washington state when Fred was 12-years-old.

	His first bout ~~when~~ when he was 13. Reportedly this occurred Thanksgiving Day (Nov. 22?). He won a 15-rounder against Earl Phillips, but Holland did not consider this a professional bout. After graduating high school, he was sent to Daly's Military academy in California for three years.He continued boxing there, then returned to Spokane. He turned professional in 1910 and went to San Francisco.		His first bout was when he was 13-years-old. Reportedly this occurred Thanksgiving Day (Nov. 22?). He won a 15-rounder against Earl Phillips, but Holland did not consider this a professional bout. After graduating from high school, he was sent to Daly's Military academy in California for three years.He continued boxing there, then returned to Spokane. He turned professional in 1910 and went to San Francisco.

	He chose the name Fritz Holland, due to his parents' objections to his boxing. Jimmy Cassell, the sporting editor for the ''Spokane Spokeman-Review'', who was assisting in a boxing tournament that Creel was entering, suggested that--as Clarence English and Frank Ireland were entered, and as there were quite a number of Hollanders in the Spokane area--he adopt the name of Fritz Holland. He ultimately won the tourney. His parents eventually withdrew their objections to his boxing.		He chose the name Fritz Holland, due to his parents' objections to his boxing. Jimmy Cassell, the sporting editor for the ''Spokane Spokeman-Review'', who was assisting in a boxing tournament that Creel was entering, suggested that--as Clarence English and Frank Ireland were entered, and as there were quite a number of Hollanders in the Spokane area--he adopt the name of Fritz Holland. He ultimately won the tourney. His parents eventually withdrew their objections to his boxing.

Ric at 03:08, 7 December 2008

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	~~See~~ the March 16, 1916 ''Tacoma Daily News'' ~~for~~ the article "How '''Fritz Holland''' Started at Boxing":<br>		From the March 16, 1916 ''Tacoma Daily News'' (Tacoma, WA, USA), in the article "How '''Fritz Holland''' Started at Boxing":<br>
	His mother was Irish, and her maiden name was Maria Ellord. His father's parents were both English.		His mother was Irish, and her maiden name was Maria Ellord. His father's parents were both English.
	His name was Herbert Creel, a Methodist minister. Fritz Holland's true name was Fred Creel. He originally was going to become a minister, too. His father was transferred to Washington state when Fred was 12-years-old.		His name was Herbert Creel, a Methodist minister. Fritz Holland's true name was Fred Creel. He originally was going to become a minister, too. His father was transferred to Washington state when Fred was 12-years-old.
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	He chose the name Fritz Holland, due to his parents' objections to his boxing. Jimmy Cassell, the sporting editor for the ''Spokane Spokeman-Review'', who was assisting in a boxing tournament that Creel was entering, suggested that--as Clarence English and Frank Ireland were entered, and as there were quite a number of Hollanders in the Spokane area--he adopt the name of Fritz Holland. He ultimately won the tourney. His parents eventually withdrew their objections to his boxing.		He chose the name Fritz Holland, due to his parents' objections to his boxing. Jimmy Cassell, the sporting editor for the ''Spokane Spokeman-Review'', who was assisting in a boxing tournament that Creel was entering, suggested that--as Clarence English and Frank Ireland were entered, and as there were quite a number of Hollanders in the Spokane area--he adopt the name of Fritz Holland. He ultimately won the tourney. His parents eventually withdrew their objections to his boxing.

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	(The above photo shows Holland wearing a Star of David on his trunks. Was he Jewish?)		(The above photo shows Holland wearing a Star of David on his trunks. Was he Jewish?)