Jack Dempsey vs. Georges Carpentier - Revision history

Ric: Round-by-round account linked (PDF)

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Round-by-round account linked (PDF)

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	*[[:File:GeorgesJack2.jpg\|Fight Photo #3]], [[:File:F17603.JPG\|Fight Photo #4]], [[:File:Dempsey-Carpentier 137822768.jpg\|Fight Photo #5]]		*[[:File:GeorgesJack2.jpg\|Fight Photo #3]], [[:File:F17603.JPG\|Fight Photo #4]], [[:File:Dempsey-Carpentier 137822768.jpg\|Fight Photo #5]]
	*[[:File:Venue Dempsey-Carpentier.JPG\|Photo of the venue construction]], [[:File:Carpentier-Dempsey Ring.jpg\|Photo from an airplane]], [[:File:Dempsey Carpentier BE053935.jpg\|Photo of the crowd]]		*[[:File:Venue Dempsey-Carpentier.JPG\|Photo of the venue construction]], [[:File:Carpentier-Dempsey Ring.jpg\|Photo from an airplane]], [[:File:Dempsey Carpentier BE053935.jpg\|Photo of the crowd]]
			*[[:File:Dempsey-Carpentier RbR.pdf\|Round-by-round account]]

	== Notes ==		== Notes ==
	*On November 4, 1919, Dempsey signed a contract with promoter Dominick Tortorich to fight British heavyweight champion [[Joe Beckett]] in a 20-round fight in New Orleans, Louisiana on March 17, 1920. However, it was contingent on Beckett defeating Carpentier on December 4, 1919. The Dempsey-Beckett fight went up in smoke when Carpentier knocked out Beckett in the first round.		*On November 4, 1919, [[Jack Dempsey]] signed a contract with promoter [[Dominick Tortorich]] to fight British heavyweight champion [[Joe Beckett]] in a 20-round fight in New Orleans, Louisiana on March 17, 1920. However, it was contingent on Beckett defeating [[George Carpentier]] on December 4, 1919. The Dempsey-Beckett fight went up in smoke when Carpentier knocked out Beckett in the first round.

	*After signing Dempsey and Carpentier, promoter [[Tex Rickard]] borrowed $250,000 to build a 91,613-seat stadium in Jersey City, New Jersey. The stadium was built in nine weeks on a piece of land known as [[Boyle’s Thirty Acres]]. Octagonal, it covered seven acres. The final row of bleachers rose 34 feet from the ground and was 312 feet from the center of the ring.		*After signing Dempsey and Carpentier, promoter [[Tex Rickard]] borrowed $250,000 to build a 91,613-seat stadium in Jersey City, New Jersey. The stadium was built in nine weeks on a piece of land known as [[Boyle’s Thirty Acres]]. Octagonal, it covered seven acres. The final row of bleachers rose 34 feet from the ground and was 312 feet from the center of the ring.
	*Tickets were priced from $5.50 to $50. After the fight sold out, Rickard said he should have doubled the prices.
	*This was boxing's first million dollar gate, generating $1,789,238.		*Rickard promoted the bout as "[[The Fight of the Century]]" (the third time he used that label: [http://www.boxing.com/fights_of_the_centurythenand_now.html]). He also promoted the fight as "hero" vs. "villain." The hero in this case was not the American, Dempsey, but the Frenchman, Carpentier, who had distinguished himself as a pilot in World War I. Dempsey, on the other hand, was cast as the villain, as he had been labeled a "slacker" for avoiding the military draft-—even though he had been found not guilty of the offense in 1920.
	*Dempsey was guaranteed $300,000 and Carpentier $200,000. Each man received 25% of the motion picture rights.
	*Rickard promoted the bout as "[[The Fight of the Century]]" (the third time he used that label: [http://www.boxing.com/fights_of_the_centurythenand_now.html]). He also promoted the fight as "hero" vs. "villain." The hero in this case was not the American, ~~Jack~~ Dempsey, but the Frenchman, ~~Georges~~ Carpentier, who had distinguished himself as a pilot in World War I. Dempsey, on the other hand, was cast as the villain, as he had been labeled a "slacker" for avoiding the military draft-—even though he had been found not guilty of the offense in 1920.		*This was the first fight sanctioned by the new [[National Boxing Association]]. The NBA would change its name to the [[World Boxing Association]] in 1962.
	*Dempsey trained in Atlantic City, New Jersey. [[Jack Renault]] and [[Larry Williams]] were his sparring partners.
	*Carpentier's training camp was in Manhasset, Long Island. [[Joe Jeannette]] and [[Paul Journee]] were his sparring partners.		*Dempsey trained in Atlantic City, New Jersey. [[Jack Renault]] and [[Larry Williams]] were his sparring partners. Carpentier's training camp was in Manhasset, Long Island. [[Joe Jeannette]] and [[Paul Journee]] were his sparring partners.

			*This was boxing's first million dollar gate, generating $1,789,238. Tickets were priced from $5.50 to $50. After the fight sold out, Rickard said he should have doubled the prices. Dempsey was guaranteed $300,000 and Carpentier $200,000. Each man received 25% of the motion picture rights.

	*This was the first fight to be broadcast to a mass audience over the radio. The ringside commentators were Major Andrew White and J.O. Smith.		*This was the first fight to be broadcast to a mass audience over the radio. The ringside commentators were Major Andrew White and J.O. Smith.

	*The ring was 20 feet square.		*The ring was 20 feet square.
	*The fighters wore eight-ounce gloves.		*The fighters wore eight-ounce gloves.
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	*Dempsey was a 2 to 1 favorite.		*Dempsey was a 2 to 1 favorite.
	*The fight started at 3:16 in the afternoon.		*The fight started at 3:16 in the afternoon.
	*This was the first fight sanctioned by the new [[National Boxing Association]]. The NBA would change its name to the [[World Boxing Association]] in 1962.
	*Three months before the fight, Carpentier predicted that the fight would last more than four rounds.		*Three months before the fight, Carpentier predicted that the fight would last more than four rounds. In the second round, Carpentier broke his right thumb in two places and suffered a slight wrist strain; Dempsey floored Carpentier twice in the fourth round.
	*In the second round, Carpentier broke his right thumb in two places and suffered a slight wrist strain.
	*Dempsey floored Carpentier twice in the fourth round.

	==External Links==		==External Links==

Ric at 19:10, 31 August 2016

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	==External Links==		==External Links==
			*Events leading up to this bout: [http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn86092557/1921-07-02/ed-1/seq-5/]
	*[http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1126&dat=19191105&id=Q4NRAAAAIBAJ&sjid=EmgDAAAAIBAJ&pg=3683,4976886 "Jack Dempsey Signs For Battle With Joe Beckett" The ''Gazette Times'', November 5, 1919]		*[http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1126&dat=19191105&id=Q4NRAAAAIBAJ&sjid=EmgDAAAAIBAJ&pg=3683,4976886 "Jack Dempsey Signs For Battle With Joe Beckett" The ''Gazette Times'', November 5, 1919]
	*[http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=888&dat=19210702&id=vwZPAAAAIBAJ&sjid=DU0DAAAAIBAJ&pg=3064,68103 "Millions Bet On Big Fight" ''St. Petersburg Times'', July 2, 1919]		*[http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=888&dat=19210702&id=vwZPAAAAIBAJ&sjid=DU0DAAAAIBAJ&pg=3064,68103 "Millions Bet On Big Fight" ''St. Petersburg Times'', July 2, 1919]
	*[http://articles.latimes.com/1991-07-02/sports/sp-1842_1_georges-carpentier "A Breathtaking Million-Dollar Fight" The ''Los Angeles Times'', July 2, 1991]		*[http://articles.latimes.com/1991-07-02/sports/sp-1842_1_georges-carpentier "A Breathtaking Million-Dollar Fight" The ''Los Angeles Times'', July 2, 1991]
	*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVu8bHTFUPI Jack Dempsey vs. Georges Carpentier on YouTube]		*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVu8bHTFUPI Jack Dempsey vs. Georges Carpentier on YouTube]

Ric: Another "Fight of the Century"

2015-06-20T14:57:50Z

Another "Fight of the Century"

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	*This was boxing's first million dollar gate, generating $1,789,238.		*This was boxing's first million dollar gate, generating $1,789,238.
	*Dempsey was guaranteed $300,000 and Carpentier $200,000. Each man received 25% of the motion picture rights.		*Dempsey was guaranteed $300,000 and Carpentier $200,000. Each man received 25% of the motion picture rights.
	*Rickard promoted the fight as "hero" vs. "villain." The hero in this case was not the American, Jack Dempsey, but the Frenchman, Georges Carpentier, who had distinguished himself as a pilot in World War I. Dempsey, on the other hand, was cast as the villain, as he had been labeled a "slacker" for avoiding the military draft ~~— even~~ though he had been found not guilty of the offense in 1920.		*Rickard promoted the bout as "[[The Fight of the Century]]" (the third time he used that label: [http://www.boxing.com/fights_of_the_centurythenand_now.html]). He also promoted the fight as "hero" vs. "villain." The hero in this case was not the American, Jack Dempsey, but the Frenchman, Georges Carpentier, who had distinguished himself as a pilot in World War I. Dempsey, on the other hand, was cast as the villain, as he had been labeled a "slacker" for avoiding the military draft-—even though he had been found not guilty of the offense in 1920.
	*Dempsey trained in Atlantic City, New Jersey. [[Jack Renault]] and [[Larry Williams]] were his sparring partners.		*Dempsey trained in Atlantic City, New Jersey. [[Jack Renault]] and [[Larry Williams]] were his sparring partners.
	*Carpentier's training camp was in Manhasset, Long Island. [[Joe Jeannette]] and [[Paul Journee]] were his sparring partners.		*Carpentier's training camp was in Manhasset, Long Island. [[Joe Jeannette]] and [[Paul Journee]] were his sparring partners.

Earl at 08:12, 18 October 2014

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	*[[:File:GeorgesJack2.jpg\|Photo #2]], [[:File:Venue Dempsey-Carpentier.JPG\|Photo]] of venue construction; [[:File:Carpentier-Dempsey Ring.jpg\|~~Bird's eye view~~]] of the ~~ring~~		*'''World Heavyweight Championship''' (3rd defense by Dempsey)
			*[[:File:GeorgesJack2.jpg\|Fight Photo #3]], [[:File:F17603.JPG\|Fight Photo #4]], [[:File:Dempsey-Carpentier 137822768.jpg\|Fight Photo #5]]
			*[[:File:Venue Dempsey-Carpentier.JPG\|Photo of the venue construction]], [[:File:Carpentier-Dempsey Ring.jpg\|Photo from an airplane]], [[:File:Dempsey Carpentier BE053935.jpg\|Photo of the crowd]]
	== Notes ==		== Notes ==
	*Carpentier ~~trained at Manhasset~~, ~~Long Island;~~ Dempsey in ~~Atlantic City~~. ~~In April 1921~~, ~~Carpentier wired~~ [[~~Joe Jeannette~~]], ~~asking him~~ to ~~be his chief trainer~~ and ~~advisor~~.		*On November 4, 1919, Dempsey signed a contract with promoter Dominick Tortorich to fight British heavyweight champion [[Joe Beckett]] in a 20-round fight in New Orleans, Louisiana on March 17, 1920. However, it was contingent on Beckett defeating Carpentier on December 4, 1919. The Dempsey-Beckett fight went up in smoke when Carpentier knocked out Beckett in the first round.
	* This was ~~the~~ first ~~fight to gross more that $1~~ million ~~at the~~ gate ($1,789,238).		*After signing Dempsey and Carpentier, promoter [[Tex Rickard]] borrowed $250,000 to build a 91,613-seat stadium in Jersey City, New Jersey. The stadium was built in nine weeks on a piece of land known as [[Boyle’s Thirty Acres]]. Octagonal, it covered seven acres. The final row of bleachers rose 34 feet from the ground and was 312 feet from the center of the ring.
	*~~Attendance: 80~~,~~183~~.		*Tickets were priced from $5.50 to $50. After the fight sold out, Rickard said he should have doubled the prices.
	*~~First world championship bout~~ to be broadcast on radio. ~~Ringside~~ commentators: Major Andrew White & J.O. Smith.		*This was boxing's first million dollar gate, generating $1,789,238.
	*8-ounce gloves ~~were used~~, ~~and~~ a ~~20-foot ring~~		*Dempsey was guaranteed $300,000 and Carpentier $200,000. Each man received 25% of the motion picture rights.
	*This was the first fight sanctioned by the new [[National Boxing Association]] ~~(NBA)~~. (The NBA would change its name to the [[World Boxing Association]] ~~(WBA)~~ in 1962.)		*Rickard promoted the fight as "hero" vs. "villain." The hero in this case was not the American, Jack Dempsey, but the Frenchman, Georges Carpentier, who had distinguished himself as a pilot in World War I. Dempsey, on the other hand, was cast as the villain, as he had been labeled a "slacker" for avoiding the military draft — even though he had been found not guilty of the offense in 1920.
	*In ~~November of 1919 promoter Dominick Tortorich announced he had signed~~ Dempsey ~~to a contract to fight England's [~~[Joe Beckett]~~] 20 rounds on March 17th~~, ~~1920 at New Orleans--dependent on Beckett~~'~~s showing against Frenchman Georges Carpentier that December~~.		*Dempsey trained in Atlantic City, New Jersey. [[Jack Renault]] and [[Larry Williams]] were his sparring partners.
	*~~In April 1921~~, ~~Carpentier had predicted that whoever won the fight~~, ~~he did not think the battle would last more than four rounds~~.		*Carpentier's training camp was in Manhasset, Long Island. [[Joe Jeannette]] and [[Paul Journee]] were his sparring partners.
			*This was the first fight to be broadcast to a mass audience over the radio. The ringside commentators were Major Andrew White and J.O. Smith.
			*The ring was 20 feet square.
			*The fighters wore eight-ounce gloves.
			*Carpentier, the reigning World Light Heavyweight Champion, was outweighed by 16 pounds.
			*Dempsey was a 2 to 1 favorite.
			*The fight started at 3:16 in the afternoon.
			*This was the first fight sanctioned by the new [[National Boxing Association]]. The NBA would change its name to the [[World Boxing Association]] in 1962.
			*Three months before the fight, Carpentier predicted that the fight would last more than four rounds.
			*In the second round, Carpentier broke his right thumb in two places and suffered a slight wrist strain.
			*Dempsey floored Carpentier twice in the fourth round.

			==External Links==
			*[http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1126&dat=19191105&id=Q4NRAAAAIBAJ&sjid=EmgDAAAAIBAJ&pg=3683,4976886 "Jack Dempsey Signs For Battle With Joe Beckett" The ''Gazette Times'', November 5, 1919]
			*[http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=888&dat=19210702&id=vwZPAAAAIBAJ&sjid=DU0DAAAAIBAJ&pg=3064,68103 "Millions Bet On Big Fight" ''St. Petersburg Times'', July 2, 1919]
			*[http://articles.latimes.com/1991-07-02/sports/sp-1842_1_georges-carpentier "A Breathtaking Million-Dollar Fight" The ''Los Angeles Times'', July 2, 1991]
			*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVu8bHTFUPI Jack Dempsey vs. Georges Carpentier on YouTube]

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	== Notes ==		== Notes ==
	*Carpentier trained at Manhasset, Long Island; Dempsey in Atlantic City. In April 1921, Carpentier wired [[Joe Jeannette]], asking him to be his chief trainer and advisor.		*Carpentier trained at Manhasset, Long Island; Dempsey in Atlantic City. In April 1921, Carpentier wired [[Joe Jeannette]], asking him to be his chief trainer and advisor.

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	== Notes ==		== Notes ==
	*Carpentier trained at Manhasset, Long Island; Dempsey in Atlantic City. In April 1921, Carpentier wired [[Joe Jeannette]], asking him to be his chief trainer and advisor.		*Carpentier trained at Manhasset, Long Island; Dempsey in Atlantic City. In April 1921, Carpentier wired [[Joe Jeannette]], asking him to be his chief trainer and advisor.

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	== Notes ==		== Notes ==
	*Carpentier trained at Manhasset, Long Island; Dempsey in Atlantic City. In April 1921, Carpentier wired [[Joe Jeannette]], asking him to be his chief trainer and advisor.		*Carpentier trained at Manhasset, Long Island; Dempsey in Atlantic City. In April 1921, Carpentier wired [[Joe Jeannette]], asking him to be his chief trainer and advisor.

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	== ~~Comments~~ ==		== Notes ==
	*Carpentier trained at Manhasset, Long Island; Dempsey in Atlantic City. In April 1921, Carpentier wired Joe Jeannette, asking him to be his chief trainer and ~~advis0r~~.		*Carpentier trained at Manhasset, Long Island; Dempsey in Atlantic City. In April 1921, Carpentier wired [[Joe Jeannette]], asking him to be his chief trainer and advisor.
			* This was the first fight to gross more that $1 million at the gate ($1,789,238).
	*Attendance: 80,183.		*Attendance: 80,183.
	*First world championship bout to be broadcast on radio. Ringside commentators: Major Andrew White & J.O. Smith.		*First world championship bout to be broadcast on radio. Ringside commentators: Major Andrew White & J.O. Smith.

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	== Comments ==		== Comments ==
	*Carpentier trained at Manhasset, Long Island; Dempsey in Atlantic City. In April 1921, Carpentier wired Joe Jeannette, asking him to be his chief trainer and ~~advisor~~.		*Carpentier trained at Manhasset, Long Island; Dempsey in Atlantic City. In April 1921, Carpentier wired Joe Jeannette, asking him to be his chief trainer and advis0r.
	*Attendance: 80,183.		*Attendance: 80,183.
	*First world championship bout to be broadcast on radio ~~(ringside~~ commentators: Major Andrew White & J.O. Smith).		*First world championship bout to be broadcast on radio. Ringside commentators: Major Andrew White & J.O. Smith.
	*8-0z gloves		*8-ounce gloves were used, and a 20-foot ring
	*20-ft ring		*This was the first fight sanctioned by the new [[National Boxing Association]] (NBA). (The NBA would change its name to the [[World Boxing Association]] (WBA) in 1962.)
	*This was the first fight sanctioned by the new [[National Boxing Association]] (NBA). The NBA would change ~~their~~ name to the [[World Boxing Association]] (WBA) in 1962.		*In November of 1919 promoter Dominick Tortorich announced he had signed Dempsey to a contract to fight England's [[Joe Beckett]] 20 rounds on March 17th, 1920 at New Orleans--dependent on Beckett's showing against Frenchman Georges Carpentier that December.
			*In April 1921, Carpentier had predicted that whoever won the fight, he did not think the battle would last more than four rounds.
	*In November of 1919 promoter Dominick Tortorich announced he had signed Dempsey to a contract to fight England's Joe Beckett 20 rounds on March 17th, 1920 at New Orleans~~, dependant~~ on Beckett's showing against Frenchman Georges Carpentier that December.
	*In April 1921, ~~Georges~~ Carpentier predicted that whoever won the fight, he did not think the battle would last more than four rounds.

Cap at 13:31, 16 February 2009

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	== Comments ==		== Comments ==
	*Carpentier trained at Manhasset, Long Island; Dempsey in Atlantic City		*Carpentier trained at Manhasset, Long Island; Dempsey in Atlantic City. In April 1921, Carpentier wired Joe Jeannette, asking him to be his chief trainer and advisor.
	*Attendance: 80,183.		*Attendance: 80,183.
	*First world championship bout to be broadcast on radio (ringside commentators: Major Andrew White & J.O. Smith).		*First world championship bout to be broadcast on radio (ringside commentators: Major Andrew White & J.O. Smith).
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	*In November of 1919 promoter Dominick Tortorich announced he had signed Dempsey to a contract to fight England's Joe Beckett 20 rounds on March 17th, 1920 at New Orleans, dependant on Beckett's showing against Frenchman Georges Carpentier that December.		*In November of 1919 promoter Dominick Tortorich announced he had signed Dempsey to a contract to fight England's Joe Beckett 20 rounds on March 17th, 1920 at New Orleans, dependant on Beckett's showing against Frenchman Georges Carpentier that December.
			*In April 1921, Georges Carpentier predicted that whoever won the fight, he did not think the battle would last more than four rounds.