Jack Sharkey vs. Primo Carnera (2nd meeting) - Revision history

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	==Notes==		==Notes==
			*Pre-fight comment: "With the fight for the world's heavyweight championship but a day away, the atmosphere at Pompton Lakes, Orangeburg and Madison Square Garden is heavy with rumors that the bout between Jack Sharkey and Primo Carnera is "in the bag." The rumors are pretty well divided on if the champion will roll over and play dead or if there will be high-diving tactics from Primo. As far as anyone knows the rumors are without foundation. Placed under examination, the rumors don't make sense. There isn't enough ready money around to make it worth either party's worthwhile." -Henry McLemore, UP correspondent.
	*This was the second fight between Sharkey and Carnera. They first fought on [[Jack Sharkey vs. Primo Carnera (1st meeting)\|October 12, 1931]], with Sharkey winning by a 15-round unanimous decision at Ebbets Field in Brooklyn. The Associated Press reported: "Before the Boston sailor's hand was raised in token of victory after 15 rounds of spectacular milling, Sharkey had floored Carnera for one nine-count, closed one of the Italian's eyes and had given him so savage a beating that Primo was on the verge of a knockout on a half dozen occasions."		*This was the second fight between Sharkey and Carnera. They first fought on [[Jack Sharkey vs. Primo Carnera (1st meeting)\|October 12, 1931]], with Sharkey winning by a 15-round unanimous decision at Ebbets Field in Brooklyn. The Associated Press reported: "Before the Boston sailor's hand was raised in token of victory after 15 rounds of spectacular milling, Sharkey had floored Carnera for one nine-count, closed one of the Italian's eyes and had given him so savage a beating that Primo was on the verge of a knockout on a half dozen occasions."
	*The fight took place at the [[Madison Square Garden Bowl]]. It was nicknamed "The Graveyard of Champions" because no titleholder had ever successfully defended his title there.		*The fight took place at the [[Madison Square Garden Bowl]]. It was nicknamed "The Graveyard of Champions" because no titleholder had ever successfully defended his title there.

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	*The fight took place at the [[Madison Square Garden Bowl]]. It was nicknamed "The Graveyard of Champions" because no titleholder had ever successfully defended his title there.		*The fight took place at the [[Madison Square Garden Bowl]]. It was nicknamed "The Graveyard of Champions" because no titleholder had ever successfully defended his title there.
	*The Associated Press reported that there was a "scant crowd of 40,000."		*The Associated Press reported that there was a "scant crowd of 40,000."
	*The United Press reported that the gross gate was $202,279.50.		*The United Press reported that the gross gate was $202,279.50 and the net was $163,772.80.
	*Introduced in the ring prior to the bout were former World Heavyweight Champions [[Jack Dempsey]] and [[Gene Tunney]].		*Introduced in the ring prior to the bout were former World Heavyweight Champions [[Jack Dempsey]] and [[Gene Tunney]].
	*Carnera knocked out Sharkey with a right uppercut to the chin.		*Carnera knocked out Sharkey with a right uppercut to the chin.
	*Some believe the fight was fixed. The Associated Press reported: "Skeptics pointed to the shift in betting odds to 6 to 5 in Carnera's favor, shortly before the fight, marking the first time a title challenger ever had crawled through the ropes a favorite." However, according to the New York Times, the late money was actually skewed toward Sharkey. The Times reported that Carnera was a 6 to 5 favorite when Broadway bookies closed shop at 6 P.M. An hour later, bookies working the crowd were quoting Sharkey the favorite at odds of 7 to 5.		*Some believe the fight was fixed. The Associated Press reported: "Skeptics pointed to the shift in betting odds to 6 to 5 in Carnera's favor, shortly before the fight, marking the first time a title challenger ever had crawled through the ropes a favorite." However, according to the New York Times, the late money was actually skewed toward Sharkey. The Times reported that Carnera was a 6 to 5 favorite when Broadway bookies closed shop at 6 P.M. An hour later, bookies working the crowd were quoting Sharkey the favorite at odds of 7 to 5.
			*The unofficial UP scorecard through 5 completed rounds read 3-1-1 in favour of Sharkey.
			*A few hours before the bout an execution of judgement obtained by a London waitress named Emilia Tersini in the amount of $14,616 was served to Primo Carnera. However, the Deputy Sheriff serving the execution stated he doubted its effectiveness as Carnera had recently filed for bankruptcy.
			*Purses - Sharkey - $69,603.44 (42 1/2% of the gate), Carnera - $16,377.28 (10% of the gate).

	:Officials from the [[New York State Athletic Commission]] said they saw no reason to doubt the genuineness of the outcome. Jack Dempsey, Gene Tunney and [[Max Baer]] were ringside for the fight, and they all stated their belief that Carnera won legitimately. Of all the sportswriters at ringside—including [[Wikipedia:Damon Runyon\|Damon Runyon]], [[Wikipedia:Westbrook Pegler\|Westbrook Pegler]] and [[Wikipedia:Francis Wallace (writer)\|Frank Wallace]]—the only one who expressed doubts about the legitimacy of the fight was Bill Cunningham of the Boston Post. "It looked questionable to me," he said.		:Officials from the [[New York State Athletic Commission]] said they saw no reason to doubt the genuineness of the outcome. Jack Dempsey, Gene Tunney and [[Max Baer]] were ringside for the fight, and they all stated their belief that Carnera won legitimately. Of all the sportswriters at ringside—including [[Wikipedia:Damon Runyon\|Damon Runyon]], [[Wikipedia:Westbrook Pegler\|Westbrook Pegler]] and [[Wikipedia:Francis Wallace (writer)\|Frank Wallace]]—the only one who expressed doubts about the legitimacy of the fight was Bill Cunningham of the Boston Post. "It looked questionable to me," he said.

	:Sharkey always denied that he threw the fight. "I’d never have done anything like that. I was raised Catholic. I was raised to be honest," he said late in life. He added, "I was on top of the world. Why would I purposefully lose?"		:Sharkey always denied that he threw the fight. "I’d never have done anything like that. I was raised Catholic. I was raised to be honest," he said late in life. He added, "I was on top of the world. Why would I purposefully lose?"

			Post fight comments

			* "Am I going to hang up my gloves? No, I'm not. I'm going to fight again in a couple of weeks. When I'm not so rusty. That's what is wrong with me now. I gave Carnera two chances and I feel he should give me a chance." -Jack Sharkey

			* "I fight Baer. I fight anybody. I whip all of them. You'll see. Primo is champ." -Primo Carnera

	==Sources==		==Sources==

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	'''~~NYSAC World heavyweight title~~'''~~<br>~~		*'''Ring Announcer:''' [[Harry Bellow]]
	'''~~National Boxing Association~~ World ~~heavyweight title~~'''		*'''World Heavyweight Championship''' (1st defense by Sharkey)
			*[[:File:F84206b.jpg\|Photo #2]], [[:Image:Jack Sharkey vs. Primo Carnera . Fasan.jpg\|Photo #3]], [[:Image:F84206.jpeg\|Photo #4]]

	*~~Ring Announcer~~: [[~~Harry Bellow~~]]		==Notes==
	*~~Attendance:~~ 40,000		*This was the second fight between Sharkey and Carnera. They first fought on [[Jack Sharkey vs. Primo Carnera (1st meeting)\|October 12, 1931]], with Sharkey winning by a 15-round unanimous decision at Ebbets Field in Brooklyn. The Associated Press reported: "Before the Boston sailor's hand was raised in token of victory after 15 rounds of spectacular milling, Sharkey had floored Carnera for one nine-count, closed one of the Italian's eyes and had given him so savage a beating that Primo was on the verge of a knockout on a half dozen occasions."
	*Introduced in the ring prior to the bout were former World Champions [[Jack Dempsey]] & [[Gene Tunney]]		*The fight took place at the [[Madison Square Garden Bowl]]. It was nicknamed "The Graveyard of Champions" because no titleholder had ever successfully defended his title there.
	*[[:File:F84206b.~~jpg\|Photo #2]]~~		*The Associated Press reported that there was a "scant crowd of 40,000."
	*~~[[:Image:Jack~~ Sharkey ~~vs. Primo Carnera . Fasan~~.~~jpg\|Photo #3]]~~		*The United Press reported that the gross gate was $202,279.50.
	*~~According to~~ the Associated Press the odds on the fight ~~shifted~~ the ~~day of~~ the ~~fight making Carnera~~, ~~who had previously lost~~ to Sharkey,the ~~favourite with~~ no ~~reasonable explanation~~. ~~Sharkey~~, ~~only 31 years old~~, ~~was in top shape~~ and ~~considered a faster more skilled boxer than the giant Italian. In~~ their ~~previous encounter, Sharkey had knocked~~ Carnera ~~down and nearly out early on, then administered a one-sided beating~~.		*Introduced in the ring prior to the bout were former World Heavyweight Champions [[Jack Dempsey]] and [[Gene Tunney]].
	*Of all the sportswriters at ~~ringside, including~~ Damon Runyon, Westbrook Pegler, Frank Wallace~~, etc~~ only one, Bill Cunningham of the Boston Post~~, expressed doubts,~~ "It looked questionable to me." ~~Jack Dempsey~~, ~~Gene Tunney~~ and ~~Max Baer were also present and all stated their belief that Carnera had knocked~~ Sharkey ~~out with a short hard uppercut~~.		*Carnera knocked out Sharkey with a right uppercut to the chin.
			*Some believe the fight was fixed. The Associated Press reported: "Skeptics pointed to the shift in betting odds to 6 to 5 in Carnera's favor, shortly before the fight, marking the first time a title challenger ever had crawled through the ropes a favorite." However, according to the New York Times, the late money was actually skewed toward Sharkey. The Times reported that Carnera was a 6 to 5 favorite when Broadway bookies closed shop at 6 P.M. An hour later, bookies working the crowd were quoting Sharkey the favorite at odds of 7 to 5.

			:Officials from the [[New York State Athletic Commission]] said they saw no reason to doubt the genuineness of the outcome. Jack Dempsey, Gene Tunney and [[Max Baer]] were ringside for the fight, and they all stated their belief that Carnera won legitimately. Of all the sportswriters at ringside—including [[Wikipedia:Damon Runyon\|Damon Runyon]], [[Wikipedia:Westbrook Pegler\|Westbrook Pegler]] and [[Wikipedia:Francis Wallace (writer)\|Frank Wallace]]—the only one who expressed doubts about the legitimacy of the fight was Bill Cunningham of the Boston Post. "It looked questionable to me," he said.

			:Sharkey always denied that he threw the fight. "I’d never have done anything like that. I was raised Catholic. I was raised to be honest," he said late in life. He added, "I was on top of the world. Why would I purposefully lose?"

			==Sources==
			*[https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1338&dat=19330629&id=lNFXAAAAIBAJ&sjid=4_QDAAAAIBAJ&pg=5107,6410353&hl=en "Primo's Secret Punch Crowns Him Champion" By Alan Gould, Associated Press, June 29, 1933]
			*[http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=MT19330630.2.44 "Primo Carnera New Champion" United Press, June 30, 1933]
			*[https://books.google.com/books?id=DoEeAwAAQBAJ&pg=PA95&lpg=PA95&dq=sharkey+carnera&source=bl&ots=UUwBVlE4sU&sig=Zz-wQYdpTlEsgSEMnqx2tZC31-U&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi63brjxuTLAhWsu4MKHdVbB_U4FBDoAQgzMAQ#v=onepage&q=sharkey%20carnera&f=false "Prizefighting: An American History" By Arne K. Lang, McFarland, 2008]
			*[https://books.google.com/books?id=EX3YWFUYQBkC&pg=PA200&lpg=PA200&dq=sharkey+carnera&source=bl&ots=C7VYVKYoSf&sig=_wV8W3H6IUJ_chybckuC_ITgcH0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiH1ePZxuTLAhXsw4MKHUb4DJg4ChDoAQhFMAY#v=onepage&q=sharkey%20carnera&f=false "Primo Carnera: The Life and Career of the Heavyweight Boxing Champion" By Joseph S. Page, McFarland, 2011]
			*[http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/403581-literary-notes-jack-sharkey-a-heavyweight-champions-untold-story "Literary Notes: Jack Sharkey" By Thomas Hauser, RingTV.com, November 9, 2015]

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	*According to the Associated Press the odds on the fight shifted the day of the fight making Carnera, who had previously lost to Sharkey,the favourite with no reasonable explanation. Sharkey, only 31 years old, was in top shape and considered a faster more skilled boxer than the giant Italian. In their previous encounter, Sharkey had knocked Carnera down and nearly out early on, then administered a one-sided beating.		*According to the Associated Press the odds on the fight shifted the day of the fight making Carnera, who had previously lost to Sharkey,the favourite with no reasonable explanation. Sharkey, only 31 years old, was in top shape and considered a faster more skilled boxer than the giant Italian. In their previous encounter, Sharkey had knocked Carnera down and nearly out early on, then administered a one-sided beating.
			*Of all the sportswriters at ringside, including Damon Runyon, Westbrook Pegler, Frank Wallace, etc only one, Bill Cunningham of the Boston Post, expressed doubts, "It looked questionable to me." Jack Dempsey, Gene Tunney and Max Baer were also present and all stated their belief that Carnera had knocked Sharkey out with a short hard uppercut.

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			*According to the Associated Press the odds on the fight shifted the day of the fight making Carnera, who had previously lost to Sharkey,the favourite with no reasonable explanation. Sharkey, only 31 years old, was in top shape and considered a faster more skilled boxer than the giant Italian. In their previous encounter, Sharkey had knocked Carnera down and nearly out early on, then administered a one-sided beating.

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			*[[:Image:Jack Sharkey vs. Primo Carnera . Fasan.jpg\|Photo #3]]

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	'''World ~~Heavyweight Title~~'''<br>		'''NYSAC World heavyweight title'''<br>
			'''National Boxing Association World heavyweight title'''

	*Ring Announcer: [[Harry Bellow]]		*Ring Announcer: [[Harry Bellow]]
	*Weights: Sharkey-201 lbs; Carnera--260½ lbs
	*Attendance: 40,000		*Attendance: 40,000
	*Introduced in the ring prior to the bout were former World Champions [[Jack Dempsey]] & [[Gene Tunney]]		*Introduced in the ring prior to the bout were former World Champions [[Jack Dempsey]] & [[Gene Tunney]]
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Rowdytimothy: Primo Carnera vs. Jack Sharkey moved to Jack Sharkey vs. Primo Carnera (2nd meeting)

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	'''World Heavyweight Title'''<br>		'''World Heavyweight Title'''<br>
	*Referee: [[Arthur Donovan]]
	*Judges: [[Charley Lynch]] & [[Jimmy Buckley]]
	*Ring Announcer: [[Harry Bellow]]		*Ring Announcer: [[Harry Bellow]]
	*Weights: Sharkey-201 lbs; Carnera--260½ lbs		*Weights: Sharkey-201 lbs; Carnera--260½ lbs
	*Attendance: 40,000		*Attendance: 40,000
	*Introduced in the ring prior to the bout were former World Champions [[Jack Dempsey]] & [[Gene Tunney]]		*Introduced in the ring prior to the bout were former World Champions [[Jack Dempsey]] & [[Gene Tunney]]