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	== Arrival in the Northwest (1920s) ==		== Arrival in the Northwest (1920s) ==
	[[File:Waterman-Ridley.jpg\|thumb\|right\|~~150px~~\|Joe Waterman & Bud Ridley]]		[[File:Waterman-Ridley.jpg\|thumb\|right\|160px\|Joe Waterman & Bud Ridley]]
	After World War I, Waterman left the Navy and returned to the United States, arriving in Tacoma, Washington. He brought over from the Philippines some of the ~~earlies Filipino boxers~~, including; [[Frankie Haynie]], [[Cowboy Reyes]], [[Young Zuzu]], and [[Macario Flores]]. During the early 1920s, Waterman would promote (in Tacoma) and manage boxers. His most notable boxers were [[Doc Snell]] and [[Bud Ridley]]. By 1924 Waterman was the matchmaker for Tacoma's [[Kay Street Athletic Club]]. According to the April 25 ''Tacoma News Tribune'', he was to resign that position, effective May 1--because Tacoma rules prohibited a person from exercising matchmaker and manager duties simultaneously. His client Bud Ridley was returning to the ring, after being out for some time with a broken arm he had sustained while training.		After World War I, Waterman left the Navy and returned to the United States, arriving in Tacoma, Washington. He brought over from the Philippines some of the first Filipinos to box in America, including: [[Frankie Haynie]], [[Cowboy Reyes]], [[Young Zuzu]] and [[Macario Flores]]. During the early 1920s, Waterman would promote (in Tacoma) and manage boxers. His most notable boxers were [[Doc Snell]] and [[Bud Ridley]]. By 1924 Waterman was the matchmaker for Tacoma's [[Kay Street Athletic Club]]. According to the April 25 ''Tacoma News Tribune'', he was to resign that position, effective May 1--because Tacoma rules prohibited a person from exercising matchmaker and manager duties simultaneously. His client Bud Ridley was returning to the ring, after being out for some time with a broken arm he had sustained while training.

	In November 1925, Waterman was hired by the [[Portland Boxing Commission]] as matchmaker. Waterman was very successful, doubling the attendance and establishing boxing as a weekly event on Tuesday, during the normal October-April indoor boxing season. Some of the popular main event fighters developed in Portland by Waterman included, [[Harry Dillon]], [[Chuck Hellman]], and [[Leo Lomski]]. Under Waterman's tutelage, Lomski would become Portland's most consistent gate attraction, until Waterman developed [[Joe Kahut]] in the 1940s.		In November 1925, Waterman was hired by the [[Portland Boxing Commission]] as matchmaker. Waterman was very successful, doubling the attendance and establishing boxing as a weekly event on Tuesday, during the normal October-April indoor boxing season. Some of the popular main event fighters developed in Portland by Waterman included, [[Harry Dillon]], [[Chuck Hellman]], and [[Leo Lomski]]. Under Waterman's tutelage, Lomski would become Portland's most consistent gate attraction, until Waterman developed [[Joe Kahut]] in the 1940s.

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	== In the Philippines ==		== In the Philippines ==

	During World War I, Waterman's unit was called upon to pick up a German boat that had been captured and taken to Manila harbor. On shore an officer recognized him, and asked him if he was the boxer from the USS ''Paul Jones''; Waterman told him yes, and he was named the matchmaker of the Knights of Columbus at Cavite, which was the Naval base in the Philippines.		During World War I, Waterman's unit was called upon to pick up a German boat that had been captured and taken to Manila harbor. On shore an officer recognized him, and asked him if he was the boxer from the USS ''Paul Jones''; Waterman told him yes, and he was named the matchmaker of the Knights of Columbus at Cavite, which was the Naval base in the Philippines.

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	== Arrival in the Northwest (1920s) ==		== Arrival in the Northwest (1920s) ==
	After World War I, Waterman left the Navy and returned to the United States, arriving in Tacoma, Washington. He brought over from the Philippines some of the earlies Filipino boxers, including; [[Frankie Haynie]], [[Cowboy Reyes]], [[Young Zuzu]], and [[Macario Flores]]. During the early ~~1920's~~, Waterman would promote (in Tacoma) and manage boxers. His most notable boxers were [[Doc Snell]] and [[Bud Ridley]]. By 1924 Waterman was the matchmaker for Tacoma's [[Kay Street Athletic Club]]. According to the April 25 ''Tacoma News Tribune'', he was to resign that position, effective May 1--because Tacoma rules prohibited a person from exercising matchmaker and manager duties simultaneously. His client Bud Ridley was returning to the ring, after being out for some time with a broken arm he had sustained while training.		[[File:Waterman-Ridley.jpg\|thumb\|right\|150px\|Joe Waterman & Bud Ridley]]
			After World War I, Waterman left the Navy and returned to the United States, arriving in Tacoma, Washington. He brought over from the Philippines some of the earlies Filipino boxers, including; [[Frankie Haynie]], [[Cowboy Reyes]], [[Young Zuzu]], and [[Macario Flores]]. During the early 1920s, Waterman would promote (in Tacoma) and manage boxers. His most notable boxers were [[Doc Snell]] and [[Bud Ridley]]. By 1924 Waterman was the matchmaker for Tacoma's [[Kay Street Athletic Club]]. According to the April 25 ''Tacoma News Tribune'', he was to resign that position, effective May 1--because Tacoma rules prohibited a person from exercising matchmaker and manager duties simultaneously. His client Bud Ridley was returning to the ring, after being out for some time with a broken arm he had sustained while training.

	In November 1925, Waterman was hired by the [[Portland Boxing Commission]] as matchmaker. Waterman was very successful, doubling the attendance and establishing boxing as a weekly event on Tuesday, during the normal October-April indoor boxing season. Some of the popular main event fighters developed in Portland by Waterman included, [[Harry Dillon]], [[Chuck Hellman]], and [[Leo Lomski]]. Under Waterman's tutelage, Lomski would become Portland's most consistent gate attraction, until Waterman developed [[Joe Kahut]] in the 1940s.		In November 1925, Waterman was hired by the [[Portland Boxing Commission]] as matchmaker. Waterman was very successful, doubling the attendance and establishing boxing as a weekly event on Tuesday, during the normal October-April indoor boxing season. Some of the popular main event fighters developed in Portland by Waterman included, [[Harry Dillon]], [[Chuck Hellman]], and [[Leo Lomski]]. Under Waterman's tutelage, Lomski would become Portland's most consistent gate attraction, until Waterman developed [[Joe Kahut]] in the 1940s.
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	In 1929, Waterman came to Seattle and began working with Seattle promoter [[Nate Druxman]], serving as Druxman's matchmaker. Druxman who had been promoting in Seattle for nearly 15 years, was experiencing growing success in spite of the Great Depression which hit in 1929, using fighters such as Snell, [[Leslie (Wildcat) Carter]], [[Dode Bercot]], and eventually a young up-and-coming [[Freddie Steele]].		In 1929, Waterman came to Seattle and began working with Seattle promoter [[Nate Druxman]], serving as Druxman's matchmaker. Druxman who had been promoting in Seattle for nearly 15 years, was experiencing growing success in spite of the Great Depression which hit in 1929, using fighters such as Snell, [[Leslie (Wildcat) Carter]], [[Dode Bercot]], and eventually a young up-and-coming [[Freddie Steele]].
	~~[[File:JoeWaterman.jpg\|right\|thumb\|200px\|Joe Waterman]]~~
	== Second Stint in Portland (1931-34) ==		== Second Stint in Portland (1931-34) ==
	In November 1931, Waterman returned to Portland, this time as an independent promoter. Devoid of exciting main event talent, Waterman initially identified his main event stars as [[Abie Israel]] and [[Johnny Hansen]]. However, Israel was grabbed by Nate Druxman, where he became a main event fighter in Seattle and lost a title bid with Featherweight champ [[Freddie Miller]]. Hansen was tragically murdered by fellow boxer [[Jack Kentworth]] on March 1, 1932.		In November 1931, Waterman returned to Portland, this time as an independent promoter. Devoid of exciting main event talent, Waterman initially identified his main event stars as [[Abie Israel]] and [[Johnny Hansen]]. However, Israel was grabbed by Nate Druxman, where he became a main event fighter in Seattle and lost a title bid with Featherweight champ [[Freddie Miller]]. Hansen was tragically murdered by fellow boxer [[Jack Kentworth]] on March 1, 1932.
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	As Lee's popularity continued to rise in the summer of 1933, Waterman matched him with a comebacking [[Doc Snell]], who was at the end of the career. In front of 7,280 fans at Multnomah Stadium, Lee finished Snell off in two rounds. Waterman then travled to Chicago, to try and lure Junior Welterweight Champion [[Tony Canzoneri]] to Portland to face Lee in a title fight. Canzoneri's team would not take the fight though, until they had seen him fight and offered up [[Eddie Anderson]] as an opponent for Lee to prove himself. Anderson was then brought to Portland, where Lee stopped him in three rounds.		As Lee's popularity continued to rise in the summer of 1933, Waterman matched him with a comebacking [[Doc Snell]], who was at the end of the career. In front of 7,280 fans at Multnomah Stadium, Lee finished Snell off in two rounds. Waterman then travled to Chicago, to try and lure Junior Welterweight Champion [[Tony Canzoneri]] to Portland to face Lee in a title fight. Canzoneri's team would not take the fight though, until they had seen him fight and offered up [[Eddie Anderson]] as an opponent for Lee to prove himself. Anderson was then brought to Portland, where Lee stopped him in three rounds.
			[[File:JoeWaterman.jpg\|right\|thumb\|200px\|Joe Waterman]]
	Canzoneri's team did not take the title fight however, discovering that Lee was a southpaw and also perhaps realizing that Lee had not quite acheived the notoriety needed for a title fight. Waterman shifted gears, and brought in California State Lightweight Champion [[Young Peter Jackson]]. In front of over 14,000 fans, Lee was stopped by Jackson in the 4th round. The attendance was a record for Portland, excluding a [[Jack Dempsey]] exhibition. It may have not been surpassed, until [[Roy Jones Jr.]] defeated [[Clinton Woods]] at the Rose Garden in 2002.		Canzoneri's team did not take the title fight however, discovering that Lee was a southpaw and also perhaps realizing that Lee had not quite acheived the notoriety needed for a title fight. Waterman shifted gears, and brought in California State Lightweight Champion [[Young Peter Jackson]]. In front of over 14,000 fans, Lee was stopped by Jackson in the 4th round. The attendance was a record for Portland, excluding a [[Jack Dempsey]] exhibition. It may have not been surpassed, until [[Roy Jones Jr.]] defeated [[Clinton Woods]] at the Rose Garden in 2002.

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	== Working with Dave Miller's Stable ==		== Working with Dave Miller's Stable ==

	After he left Portland in March 1934, Waterman returned to Tacoma and bought a half interest in the stable of Tacoma manager [[Dave Miller]]. Miller whose business interests included a hotel and the concessions at the since closed Longacres racing track, was unable to leave the Northwest for an extended period of time with his stable of boxers, due to his business interests. Most important for Miller was that he needed someone he could trust, who could watch over his prized prospect, a rising [[Freddie Steele]].		After he left Portland in March 1934, Waterman returned to Tacoma and bought a half interest in the stable of Tacoma manager [[Dave Miller (Manager)\|Dave Miller]]. Miller, whose business interests included a hotel and the concessions at the since-closed Longacres racing track, was unable to leave the Northwest for an extended period of time with his stable of boxers, due to his business interests. Most important for Miller was that he needed someone he could trust, who could watch over his prized prospect, a rising [[Freddie Steele]].

	Waterman would take Steele to San Francisco for a few bouts, however Steele injured his shoulder prior to a schedulded rematch with [[Sammy (Kid) Slaughter]] and left San Francisco without telling anyone. As a result Waterman, Miller, and Steele were both suspended by the California State Athletic Commmission. During this time, Waterman was also handling Miller's fighter [[Fred Lenhart]], as well as [[Young Firpo]], whom he guided in his first bout with [[Tiger Jack Fox]].		Waterman would take Steele to San Francisco for a few bouts, however Steele injured his shoulder prior to a schedulded rematch with [[Sammy (Kid) Slaughter]] and left San Francisco without telling anyone. As a result Waterman, Miller, and Steele were both suspended by the California State Athletic Commmission. During this time, Waterman was also handling Miller's fighter [[Fred Lenhart]], as well as [[Young Firpo]], whom he guided in his first bout with [[Tiger Jack Fox]].
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	In September 1935, Waterman became the matchmaker at the [[Olympic Auditorium]].		In September 1935, Waterman became the matchmaker at the [[Olympic Auditorium]].

	== Los Angeles, the Olympic, & Other Spots in California (1935-42) ==		== Los Angeles, the Olympic & Other Spots in California (1935-42) ==

	Largely because of the Great Depression, it had been very difficult to stage boxing shows in the Olympic Auditorium for a number of years before Joe Waterman took over as the matchmaker in		Largely because of the Great Depression, it had been very difficult to stage boxing shows in the Olympic Auditorium for a number of years before Joe Waterman took over as the matchmaker in September 1935. In one of his first moves, Waterman slashed ticket prices so that the gate for a full house for a regular show was about $5,200.00, down from the middle 1920s figure of about $18,800. Moreover, the new general admission ticket price was twenty-five cents, in comparision to the middle-1920s price of $1.00.
	September 1935. In one of his first moves, Waterman slashed ticket prices so that the gate for a full house for a regular show was about $5,200.00, down from the middle 1920s figure of about $18,800. Moreover, the new general admission ticket price was twenty-five cents, in comparision to the middle-1920s price of $1.00.

	In addition to slashing ticket prices, Waterman applied his matchmaking skills to developing new talent and to putting together good boxing cards. After toiling for small purses since he became a professional for a number of years, Henry Armstrong would get a big boost when he was headliner on a number of Waterman's cards.		In addition to slashing ticket prices, Waterman applied his matchmaking skills to developing new talent and to putting together good boxing cards. After toiling for small purses since he became a professional for a number of years, Henry Armstrong would get a big boost when he was headliner on a number of Waterman's cards.

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	In 1929, Waterman came to Seattle and began working with Seattle promoter [[Nate Druxman]], serving as Druxman's matchmaker. Druxman who had been promoting in Seattle for nearly 15 years, was experiencing growing success in spite of the Great Depression which hit in 1929, using fighters such as Snell, [[Leslie (Wildcat) Carter]], [[Dode Bercot]], and eventually a young up-and-coming [[Freddie Steele]].		In 1929, Waterman came to Seattle and began working with Seattle promoter [[Nate Druxman]], serving as Druxman's matchmaker. Druxman who had been promoting in Seattle for nearly 15 years, was experiencing growing success in spite of the Great Depression which hit in 1929, using fighters such as Snell, [[Leslie (Wildcat) Carter]], [[Dode Bercot]], and eventually a young up-and-coming [[Freddie Steele]].
			[[File:JoeWaterman.jpg\|right\|thumb\|200px\|Joe Waterman]]
	== Second Stint in Portland (1931-34) ==		== Second Stint in Portland (1931-34) ==
	In November 1931, Waterman returned to Portland, this time as an independent promoter. Devoid of exciting main event talent, Waterman initially identified his main event stars as [[Abie Israel]] and [[Johnny Hansen]]. However, Israel was grabbed by Nate Druxman, where he became a main event fighter in Seattle and lost a title bid with Featherweight champ [[Freddie Miller]]. Hansen was tragically murdered by fellow boxer [[Jack Kentworth]] on March 1, 1932.		In November 1931, Waterman returned to Portland, this time as an independent promoter. Devoid of exciting main event talent, Waterman initially identified his main event stars as [[Abie Israel]] and [[Johnny Hansen]]. However, Israel was grabbed by Nate Druxman, where he became a main event fighter in Seattle and lost a title bid with Featherweight champ [[Freddie Miller]]. Hansen was tragically murdered by fellow boxer [[Jack Kentworth]] on March 1, 1932.

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	[[file:Waterman.Joe.jpg\|~~right~~\|200px\|Joe Waterman]]		[[file:Waterman.Joe.jpg\|left\|200px\|Joe Waterman]]
			<human>413096</human>
	== Brief Summary ==		== Brief Summary ==
	'''Boxing Promoter, Manager, and Matchmaker on the West Coast of the United States'''		'''Boxing Promoter, Manager, and Matchmaker on the West Coast of the United States'''
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	*''Portland Oregonian'' research conducted by Matt Tegen		*''Portland Oregonian'' research conducted by Matt Tegen
	*March 27, 1949 "Roar of the Crowd Long Has Been Music to Joe Waterman" ''Tacoma News-Tribune''		*March 27, 1949 "Roar of the Crowd Long Has Been Music to Joe Waterman" ''Tacoma News-Tribune''

	~~== External Link ==~~
	~~Waterman's [http://www.boxrec.com/list_shows.php?human_id=413096&cat=promoter Promotional Record]~~

	{{DEFAULTSORT:Waterman, Joe}}		{{DEFAULTSORT:Waterman, Joe}}

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	*March 27, 1949 "Roar of the Crowd Long Has Been Music to Joe Waterman" ''Tacoma News-Tribune''		*March 27, 1949 "Roar of the Crowd Long Has Been Music to Joe Waterman" ''Tacoma News-Tribune''

	Waterman's [http://www.boxrec.com/~~prom_list~~.php?~~promoter_id~~=~~37 Promotion~~ Record]		== External Link ==
			Waterman's [http://www.boxrec.com/list_shows.php?human_id=413096&cat=promoter Promotional Record]

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	As Lee's popularity continued to rise in the summer of 1933, Waterman matched him with a comebacking [[Doc Snell]], who was at the end of the career. In front of 7,280 fans at Multnomah Stadium, Lee finished Snell off in two rounds. Waterman then travled to Chicago, to try and lure Junior Welterweight Champion [[Tony Canzoneri]] to Portland to face Lee in a title fight. Canzoneri's team would not take the fight though, until they had seen him fight and offered up [[Eddie Anderson]] as an opponent for Lee to prove himself. Anderson was then brought to Portland, where Lee stopped him in three rounds.		As Lee's popularity continued to rise in the summer of 1933, Waterman matched him with a comebacking [[Doc Snell]], who was at the end of the career. In front of 7,280 fans at Multnomah Stadium, Lee finished Snell off in two rounds. Waterman then travled to Chicago, to try and lure Junior Welterweight Champion [[Tony Canzoneri]] to Portland to face Lee in a title fight. Canzoneri's team would not take the fight though, until they had seen him fight and offered up [[Eddie Anderson]] as an opponent for Lee to prove himself. Anderson was then brought to Portland, where Lee stopped him in three rounds.

	Canzoneri's team did not take the title fight however, discovering that Lee was a southpaw and also perhaps realizing that Lee had not quite acheived the notoriety needed for a title fight. Waterman shifted gears, and brought in California State Lightweight Champion [[Young Peter Jackson]]. In front of over 14,000 fans, Lee was stopped by Jackson in the 4th round. The attendance was a record for Portland, excluding a [[Jack Dempsey]] exhibition. It may have not been surpassed, until [[Roy Jones, Jr.]] defeated [[Clinton Woods]] at the Rose Garden in 2002.		Canzoneri's team did not take the title fight however, discovering that Lee was a southpaw and also perhaps realizing that Lee had not quite acheived the notoriety needed for a title fight. Waterman shifted gears, and brought in California State Lightweight Champion [[Young Peter Jackson]]. In front of over 14,000 fans, Lee was stopped by Jackson in the 4th round. The attendance was a record for Portland, excluding a [[Jack Dempsey]] exhibition. It may have not been surpassed, until [[Roy Jones Jr.]] defeated [[Clinton Woods]] at the Rose Garden in 2002.

	Lee was never quite the same after the loss to Jackson, though he did beat a faded [[Billy Townsend]], he was beaten by Billy Wallace, and for a final time by clubfighter [[Ernesto (Ernie) Cavalli\|Ernie Cavelli]]. After Lee's loss to Cavelli, Waterman quit as a promoter in Portland. It should also be noted that Waterman, also had success in developing [[Young Firpo]] into a top main event attraction in Portland both before and after Lee's rise. Firpo's four fight series with [[Wesley (Kayo) Ketchell]], arguably the most exciting rivalry in Portland boxing annals, played a key role in making him an attraction. Waterman would actually manage Firpo during the summer and remainder of 1934, guiding him in his notable bouts with [[Tiger Jack Fox]] and [[John Henry Lewis]] in Portland.		Lee was never quite the same after the loss to Jackson, though he did beat a faded [[Billy Townsend]], he was beaten by Billy Wallace, and for a final time by clubfighter [[Ernesto (Ernie) Cavalli\|Ernie Cavelli]]. After Lee's loss to Cavelli, Waterman quit as a promoter in Portland. It should also be noted that Waterman, also had success in developing [[Young Firpo]] into a top main event attraction in Portland both before and after Lee's rise. Firpo's four fight series with [[Wesley (Kayo) Ketchell]], arguably the most exciting rivalry in Portland boxing annals, played a key role in making him an attraction. Waterman would actually manage Firpo during the summer and remainder of 1934, guiding him in his notable bouts with [[Tiger Jack Fox]] and [[John Henry Lewis]] in Portland.

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	As Lee's popularity continued to rise in the summer of 1933, Waterman matched him with a comebacking [[Doc Snell]], who was at the end of the career. In front of 7,280 fans at Multnomah Stadium, Lee finished Snell off in two rounds. Waterman then travled to Chicago, to try and lure Junior Welterweight Champion [[Tony Canzoneri]] to Portland to face Lee in a title fight. Canzoneri's team would not take the fight though, until they had seen him fight and offered up [[Eddie Anderson]] as an opponent for Lee to prove himself. Anderson was then brought to Portland, where Lee stopped him in three rounds.		As Lee's popularity continued to rise in the summer of 1933, Waterman matched him with a comebacking [[Doc Snell]], who was at the end of the career. In front of 7,280 fans at Multnomah Stadium, Lee finished Snell off in two rounds. Waterman then travled to Chicago, to try and lure Junior Welterweight Champion [[Tony Canzoneri]] to Portland to face Lee in a title fight. Canzoneri's team would not take the fight though, until they had seen him fight and offered up [[Eddie Anderson]] as an opponent for Lee to prove himself. Anderson was then brought to Portland, where Lee stopped him in three rounds.

	Canzoneri's team did not take the title fight however, discovering that Lee was a southpaw and also perhaps realizing that Lee had not quite acheived the notoriety needed for a title fight. Waterman shifted gears, and brought in California State Lightweight Champion [[Young Peter Jackson]]. In front of over 14,000 fans, Lee was stopped by Jackson in the 4th round. The attendance was a record for Portland, excluding a [[Jack Dempsey]] exhibition. It may have not been surpassed, until [[Roy Jones Jr.]] defeated [[Clinton Woods]] at the Rose Garden in 2002.		Canzoneri's team did not take the title fight however, discovering that Lee was a southpaw and also perhaps realizing that Lee had not quite acheived the notoriety needed for a title fight. Waterman shifted gears, and brought in California State Lightweight Champion [[Young Peter Jackson]]. In front of over 14,000 fans, Lee was stopped by Jackson in the 4th round. The attendance was a record for Portland, excluding a [[Jack Dempsey]] exhibition. It may have not been surpassed, until [[Roy Jones, Jr.]] defeated [[Clinton Woods]] at the Rose Garden in 2002.

	Lee was never quite the same after the loss to Jackson, though he did beat a faded [[Billy Townsend]], he was beaten by Billy Wallace, and for a final time by clubfighter [[Ernesto (Ernie) Cavalli\|Ernie Cavelli]]. After Lee's loss to Cavelli, Waterman quit as a promoter in Portland. It should also be noted that Waterman, also had success in developing [[Young Firpo]] into a top main event attraction in Portland both before and after Lee's rise. Firpo's four fight series with [[Wesley (Kayo) Ketchell]], arguably the most exciting rivalry in Portland boxing annals, played a key role in making him an attraction. Waterman would actually manage Firpo during the summer and remainder of 1934, guiding him in his notable bouts with [[Tiger Jack Fox]] and [[John Henry Lewis]] in Portland.		Lee was never quite the same after the loss to Jackson, though he did beat a faded [[Billy Townsend]], he was beaten by Billy Wallace, and for a final time by clubfighter [[Ernesto (Ernie) Cavalli\|Ernie Cavelli]]. After Lee's loss to Cavelli, Waterman quit as a promoter in Portland. It should also be noted that Waterman, also had success in developing [[Young Firpo]] into a top main event attraction in Portland both before and after Lee's rise. Firpo's four fight series with [[Wesley (Kayo) Ketchell]], arguably the most exciting rivalry in Portland boxing annals, played a key role in making him an attraction. Waterman would actually manage Firpo during the summer and remainder of 1934, guiding him in his notable bouts with [[Tiger Jack Fox]] and [[John Henry Lewis]] in Portland.

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	Waterman though, was able to find his main gate attraction though in the form of Chinese-American boxer [[Ah Wing Lee]], a native of Portland's St. John's neighborhood, who had boxed for Waterman and Druxman in Seattle as a prelim fighter, before stepping up in competition and getting stopped by [[Leslie (Wildcat) Carter]]. Waterman matched Lee, four times in 1932 with South Portland rival [[Benny Pelz]]. After three draws with Pelz, Lee finally beat Pelz on his fourth try. By this time, Lee was now drawing nearly 4,000 fans to his bouts and had become a hero in the local Chinatown.		Waterman though, was able to find his main gate attraction though in the form of Chinese-American boxer [[Ah Wing Lee]], a native of Portland's St. John's neighborhood, who had boxed for Waterman and Druxman in Seattle as a prelim fighter, before stepping up in competition and getting stopped by [[Leslie (Wildcat) Carter]]. Waterman matched Lee, four times in 1932 with South Portland rival [[Benny Pelz]]. After three draws with Pelz, Lee finally beat Pelz on his fourth try. By this time, Lee was now drawing nearly 4,000 fans to his bouts and had become a hero in the local Chinatown.

	As Lee's popularity continued to rise in the summer of 1933, Waterman matched him with a comebacking [[Doc Snell]], who was at the end of the career. In front of 7,280 fans at Multnomah Stadium, Lee finished Snell off in two rounds. Waterman then travled to Chicago, to try and lure Junior Welterweight Champion [[Tony Canzoneri]] to Portland to face Lee in a title fight. Canzoneri's team would not take the fight though, until they had seen him fight and offered up [[~~Boxer:Eddie Anderson:010098\|~~Eddie Anderson]] as an opponent for Lee to prove himself. Anderson was then brought to Portland, where Lee stopped him in three rounds.		As Lee's popularity continued to rise in the summer of 1933, Waterman matched him with a comebacking [[Doc Snell]], who was at the end of the career. In front of 7,280 fans at Multnomah Stadium, Lee finished Snell off in two rounds. Waterman then travled to Chicago, to try and lure Junior Welterweight Champion [[Tony Canzoneri]] to Portland to face Lee in a title fight. Canzoneri's team would not take the fight though, until they had seen him fight and offered up [[Eddie Anderson]] as an opponent for Lee to prove himself. Anderson was then brought to Portland, where Lee stopped him in three rounds.

	Canzoneri's team did not take the title fight however, discovering that Lee was a southpaw and also perhaps realizing that Lee had not quite acheived the notoriety needed for a title fight. Waterman shifted gears, and brought in California State Lightweight Champion [[Young Peter Jackson]]. In front of over 14,000 fans, Lee was stopped by Jackson in the 4th round. The attendance was a record for Portland, excluding a [[Jack Dempsey]] exhibition. It may have not been surpassed, until [[Roy Jones Jr.]] defeated [[Clinton Woods]] at the Rose Garden in 2002.		Canzoneri's team did not take the title fight however, discovering that Lee was a southpaw and also perhaps realizing that Lee had not quite acheived the notoriety needed for a title fight. Waterman shifted gears, and brought in California State Lightweight Champion [[Young Peter Jackson]]. In front of over 14,000 fans, Lee was stopped by Jackson in the 4th round. The attendance was a record for Portland, excluding a [[Jack Dempsey]] exhibition. It may have not been surpassed, until [[Roy Jones Jr.]] defeated [[Clinton Woods]] at the Rose Garden in 2002.

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	After he left Portland in March 1934, Waterman returned to Tacoma and bought a half interest in the stable of Tacoma manager [[Dave Miller]]. Miller whose business interests included a hotel and the concessions at the since closed Longacres racing track, was unable to leave the Northwest for an extended period of time with his stable of boxers, due to his business interests. Most important for Miller was that he needed someone he could trust, who could watch over his prized prospect, a rising [[Boxer:Freddie Steele:021553\|Freddie Steele]].		After he left Portland in March 1934, Waterman returned to Tacoma and bought a half interest in the stable of Tacoma manager [[Dave Miller]]. Miller whose business interests included a hotel and the concessions at the since closed Longacres racing track, was unable to leave the Northwest for an extended period of time with his stable of boxers, due to his business interests. Most important for Miller was that he needed someone he could trust, who could watch over his prized prospect, a rising [[Boxer:Freddie Steele:021553\|Freddie Steele]].

	Waterman would take Steele to San Francisco for a few bouts, however Steele injured his shoulder prior to a schedulded rematch with [[Boxer:Sammy (Kid) Slaughter:012402\|Sammy Slaughter]] and left San Francisco without telling anyone. As a result Waterman, Miller, and Steele were both suspended by the California State Athletic Commmission. During this time, Waterman was also handling Miller's fighter [[Fred Lenhart]], as well as Young Firpo, whom he guided in his first bout with [[Tiger Jack Fox]].		Waterman would take Steele to San Francisco for a few bouts, however Steele injured his shoulder prior to a schedulded rematch with [[Boxer:Sammy (Kid) Slaughter:012402\|Sammy Slaughter]] and left San Francisco without telling anyone. As a result Waterman, Miller, and Steele were both suspended by the California State Athletic Commmission. During this time, Waterman was also handling Miller's fighter [[Fred Lenhart]], as well as [[Young Firpo]], whom he guided in his first bout with [[Tiger Jack Fox]].

	== Third Stint in Portland (1935) ==		== Third Stint in Portland (1935) ==

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	After World War I, Waterman left the Navy and returned to the United States, arriving in Tacoma, Washington. He brought over from the Philippines some of the earlies Filipino boxers, including; [[Frankie Haynie]], [[Cowboy Reyes]], [[Young Zuzu]], and [[Macario Flores]]. During the early 1920's, Waterman would promote (in Tacoma) and manage boxers. His most notable boxers were [[Doc Snell]] and [[Bud Ridley]]. By 1924 Waterman was the matchmaker for Tacoma's [[Kay Street Athletic Club]]. According to the April 25 ''Tacoma News Tribune'', he was to resign that position, effective May 1--because Tacoma rules prohibited a person from exercising matchmaker and manager duties simultaneously. His client Bud Ridley was returning to the ring, after being out for some time with a broken arm he had sustained while training.		After World War I, Waterman left the Navy and returned to the United States, arriving in Tacoma, Washington. He brought over from the Philippines some of the earlies Filipino boxers, including; [[Frankie Haynie]], [[Cowboy Reyes]], [[Young Zuzu]], and [[Macario Flores]]. During the early 1920's, Waterman would promote (in Tacoma) and manage boxers. His most notable boxers were [[Doc Snell]] and [[Bud Ridley]]. By 1924 Waterman was the matchmaker for Tacoma's [[Kay Street Athletic Club]]. According to the April 25 ''Tacoma News Tribune'', he was to resign that position, effective May 1--because Tacoma rules prohibited a person from exercising matchmaker and manager duties simultaneously. His client Bud Ridley was returning to the ring, after being out for some time with a broken arm he had sustained while training.

	In November 1925, Waterman was hired by the [[Portland Boxing Commission]] as matchmaker. Waterman was very successful, doubling the attendance and establishing boxing as a weekly event on Tuesday, during the normal October-April indoor boxing season. Some of the popular main event fighters developed in Portland by Waterman included, [[~~Boxer:Harry Dillon:075705\|~~Harry Dillon]], [[~~Boxer:Chuck Hellman:050460\|~~Chuck Hellman]], and [[Leo Lomski]]. Under Waterman's tutelage, Lomski would become Portland's most consistent gate attraction, until Waterman developed [[~~Boxer:Joe Kahut:010352\|~~Joe Kahut]] in the 1940s.		In November 1925, Waterman was hired by the [[Portland Boxing Commission]] as matchmaker. Waterman was very successful, doubling the attendance and establishing boxing as a weekly event on Tuesday, during the normal October-April indoor boxing season. Some of the popular main event fighters developed in Portland by Waterman included, [[Harry Dillon]], [[Chuck Hellman]], and [[Leo Lomski]]. Under Waterman's tutelage, Lomski would become Portland's most consistent gate attraction, until Waterman developed [[Joe Kahut]] in the 1940s.

	Waterman left the matchmaker post in March 1927, shortly after he was married. He left for Los Angeles, and managed boxers there, including, [[~~Boxer:Sailor Willie Gordon:079229\|~~Sailor Willie Gordon]], [[~~Boxer:Tony Portillo:048595\|~~Tony Portillo]], as well as continuing with [[Doc Snell]].		Waterman left the matchmaker post in March 1927, shortly after he was married. He left for Los Angeles, and managed boxers there, including, [[Sailor Willie Gordon]], [[Tony Portillo]], as well as continuing with [[Doc Snell]].

	In 1929, Waterman came to Seattle and began working with Seattle promoter [[Nate Druxman]], serving as Druxman's matchmaker. Druxman who had been promoting in Seattle for nearly 15 years, was experiencing growing success in spite of the Great Depression which hit in 1929, using fighters such as Snell, [[Leslie (Wildcat) Carter]], [[Dode Bercot]], and eventually a young up-and-coming [[Freddie Steele]].		In 1929, Waterman came to Seattle and began working with Seattle promoter [[Nate Druxman]], serving as Druxman's matchmaker. Druxman who had been promoting in Seattle for nearly 15 years, was experiencing growing success in spite of the Great Depression which hit in 1929, using fighters such as Snell, [[Leslie (Wildcat) Carter]], [[Dode Bercot]], and eventually a young up-and-coming [[Freddie Steele]].

	== Second Stint in Portland (1931-34) ==		== Second Stint in Portland (1931-34) ==
	In November 1931, Waterman returned to Portland, this time as an independent promoter. Devoid of exciting main event talent, Waterman initially identified his main event stars as [[Abie Israel]] and [[~~Boxer:Johnny Hansen:098545\|~~Johnny Hansen]]. However, Israel was grabbed by Nate Druxman, where he became a main event fighter in Seattle and lost a title bid with Featherweight champ [[Freddie Miller]]. Hansen was tragically murdered by fellow boxer [[~~Boxer:Jack Kentworth:096368\|~~Jack Kentworth]] on March 1, 1932.		In November 1931, Waterman returned to Portland, this time as an independent promoter. Devoid of exciting main event talent, Waterman initially identified his main event stars as [[Abie Israel]] and [[Johnny Hansen]]. However, Israel was grabbed by Nate Druxman, where he became a main event fighter in Seattle and lost a title bid with Featherweight champ [[Freddie Miller]]. Hansen was tragically murdered by fellow boxer [[Jack Kentworth]] on March 1, 1932.

	Waterman though, was able to find his main gate attraction though in the form of Chinese-American boxer [[~~Boxer:Ah Wing Lee:093398\|~~Ah Wing Lee]], a native of Portland's St. John's neighborhood, who had boxed for Waterman and Druxman in Seattle as a prelim fighter, before stepping up in competition and getting stopped by [[Leslie (Wildcat) Carter]]. Waterman matched Lee, four times in 1932 with South Portland rival [[~~Boxer:Benny Pelz:009552\|~~Benny Pelz]]. After three draws with Pelz, Lee finally beat Pelz on his fourth try. By this time, Lee was now drawing nearly 4,000 fans to his bouts and had become a hero in the local Chinatown.		Waterman though, was able to find his main gate attraction though in the form of Chinese-American boxer [[Ah Wing Lee]], a native of Portland's St. John's neighborhood, who had boxed for Waterman and Druxman in Seattle as a prelim fighter, before stepping up in competition and getting stopped by [[Leslie (Wildcat) Carter]]. Waterman matched Lee, four times in 1932 with South Portland rival [[Benny Pelz]]. After three draws with Pelz, Lee finally beat Pelz on his fourth try. By this time, Lee was now drawing nearly 4,000 fans to his bouts and had become a hero in the local Chinatown.

	As Lee's popularity continued to rise in the summer of 1933, Waterman matched him with a comebacking [[Doc Snell]], who was at the end of the career. In front of 7,280 fans at Multnomah Stadium, Lee finished Snell off in two rounds. Waterman then travled to Chicago, to try and lure Junior Welterweight Champion [[Tony Canzoneri]] to Portland to face Lee in a title fight. Canzoneri's team would not take the fight though, until they had seen him fight and offered up [[Boxer:Eddie Anderson:010098\|Eddie Anderson]] as an opponent for Lee to prove himself. Anderson was then brought to Portland, where Lee stopped him in three rounds.		As Lee's popularity continued to rise in the summer of 1933, Waterman matched him with a comebacking [[Doc Snell]], who was at the end of the career. In front of 7,280 fans at Multnomah Stadium, Lee finished Snell off in two rounds. Waterman then travled to Chicago, to try and lure Junior Welterweight Champion [[Tony Canzoneri]] to Portland to face Lee in a title fight. Canzoneri's team would not take the fight though, until they had seen him fight and offered up [[Boxer:Eddie Anderson:010098\|Eddie Anderson]] as an opponent for Lee to prove himself. Anderson was then brought to Portland, where Lee stopped him in three rounds.

	Canzoneri's team did not take the title fight however, discovering that Lee was a southpaw and also perhaps realizing that Lee had not quite acheived the notoriety needed for a title fight. Waterman shifted gears, and brought in California State Lightweight Champion [[Young Peter Jackson]]. In front of over 14,000 fans, Lee was stopped by Jackson in the 4th round. The attendance was a record for Portland, excluding a [[~~Boxer:Jack Dempsey:009009\|~~Jack Dempsey]] exhibition. It may have not been surpassed, until [[~~Boxer:Roy Jones Jr.:001758\|~~Roy Jones Jr.]] defeated [[~~Boxer:Clinton Woods:007831\|~~Clinton Woods]] at the Rose Garden in 2002.		Canzoneri's team did not take the title fight however, discovering that Lee was a southpaw and also perhaps realizing that Lee had not quite acheived the notoriety needed for a title fight. Waterman shifted gears, and brought in California State Lightweight Champion [[Young Peter Jackson]]. In front of over 14,000 fans, Lee was stopped by Jackson in the 4th round. The attendance was a record for Portland, excluding a [[Jack Dempsey]] exhibition. It may have not been surpassed, until [[Roy Jones Jr.]] defeated [[Clinton Woods]] at the Rose Garden in 2002.

	Lee was never quite the same after the loss to Jackson, though he did beat a faded [[~~Boxer:Billy Townsend:010137\|~~Billy Townsend]], he was beaten by Billy Wallace, and for a final time by clubfighter [[Ernesto (Ernie) Cavalli\|Ernie Cavelli]]. After Lee's loss to Cavelli, Waterman quit as a promoter in Portland. It should also be noted that Waterman, also had success in developing [[Young Firpo]] into a top main event attraction in Portland both before and after Lee's rise. Firpo's four fight series with [[~~Boxer:Wesley (Kayo) Ketchell:040392\|~~Wesley (Kayo) Ketchell]], arguably the most exciting rivalry in Portland boxing annals, played a key role in making him an attraction. Waterman would actually manage Firpo during the summer and remainder of 1934, guiding him in his notable bouts with [[Tiger Jack Fox]] and [[John Henry Lewis]] in Portland.		Lee was never quite the same after the loss to Jackson, though he did beat a faded [[Billy Townsend]], he was beaten by Billy Wallace, and for a final time by clubfighter [[Ernesto (Ernie) Cavalli\|Ernie Cavelli]]. After Lee's loss to Cavelli, Waterman quit as a promoter in Portland. It should also be noted that Waterman, also had success in developing [[Young Firpo]] into a top main event attraction in Portland both before and after Lee's rise. Firpo's four fight series with [[Wesley (Kayo) Ketchell]], arguably the most exciting rivalry in Portland boxing annals, played a key role in making him an attraction. Waterman would actually manage Firpo during the summer and remainder of 1934, guiding him in his notable bouts with [[Tiger Jack Fox]] and [[John Henry Lewis]] in Portland.

	== Working with Dave Miller's Stable ==		== Working with Dave Miller's Stable ==

	After he left Portland in March 1934, Waterman returned to Tacoma and bought a half interest in the stable of Tacoma manager [[Dave Miller]]. Miller whose business interests included a hotel and the concessions at the since closed Longacres racing track, was unable to leave the Northwest for an extended period of time with his stable of boxers, due to his business interests. Most important for Miller was that he needed someone he could trust, who could watch over his prized prospect, a rising [[~~Boxer:Freddie Steele:021553\|~~Freddie Steele]].		After he left Portland in March 1934, Waterman returned to Tacoma and bought a half interest in the stable of Tacoma manager [[Dave Miller]]. Miller whose business interests included a hotel and the concessions at the since closed Longacres racing track, was unable to leave the Northwest for an extended period of time with his stable of boxers, due to his business interests. Most important for Miller was that he needed someone he could trust, who could watch over his prized prospect, a rising [[Freddie Steele]].

	Waterman would take Steele to San Francisco for a few bouts, however Steele injured his shoulder prior to a schedulded rematch with [[~~Boxer:~~Sammy (Kid) ~~Slaughter:012402\|Sammy~~ Slaughter]] and left San Francisco without telling anyone. As a result Waterman, Miller, and Steele were both suspended by the California State Athletic Commmission. During this time, Waterman was also handling Miller's fighter [[Fred Lenhart]], as well as [[Young Firpo]], whom he guided in his first bout with [[Tiger Jack Fox]].		Waterman would take Steele to San Francisco for a few bouts, however Steele injured his shoulder prior to a schedulded rematch with [[Sammy (Kid) Slaughter]] and left San Francisco without telling anyone. As a result Waterman, Miller, and Steele were both suspended by the California State Athletic Commmission. During this time, Waterman was also handling Miller's fighter [[Fred Lenhart]], as well as [[Young Firpo]], whom he guided in his first bout with [[Tiger Jack Fox]].

	== Third Stint in Portland (1935) ==		== Third Stint in Portland (1935) ==
	In January 1935, Waterman went to Los Angeles and applied for the matchmaker job at the [[Olympic Auditorium]]. Apparently set to take the job, Waterman and the Olympic became hung up over the financial terms of Waterman's contract. After Waterman turned the Olympic job down, Portland promptly fired their matchmaker [[Tex Salkeld]]. (In time, however, Waterman would have at least three stints at the Olympic.) Waterman was quickly lured back to Portland where he put on his first show on February 12, 1935--using Freddie Steele in his first main event.		In January 1935, Waterman went to Los Angeles and applied for the matchmaker job at the [[Olympic Auditorium]]. Apparently set to take the job, Waterman and the Olympic became hung up over the financial terms of Waterman's contract. After Waterman turned the Olympic job down, Portland promptly fired their matchmaker [[Tex Salkeld]]. (In time, however, Waterman would have at least three stints at the Olympic.) Waterman was quickly lured back to Portland where he put on his first show on February 12, 1935--using Freddie Steele in his first main event.

	Portland was more or less devoid of quality main event talent at this time, and shortly after Waterman was unable to get Portland Middleweight [[~~Boxer:Paul Karch:126875\|~~Paul Karch]] past [[~~Boxer:Baby Joe Gans:024675\|~~Baby Joe Gans]], he again gave up his post in Portland and headed back to Los Angeles.		Portland was more or less devoid of quality main event talent at this time, and shortly after Waterman was unable to get Portland Middleweight [[Paul Karch]] past [[Baby Joe Gans]], he again gave up his post in Portland and headed back to Los Angeles.

	In September 1935, Waterman became the matchmaker at the [[Olympic Auditorium]].		In September 1935, Waterman became the matchmaker at the [[Olympic Auditorium]].