Journeyman - Revision history

Declan mcgrath at 07:20, 9 October 2019

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	== Typical Journeymen ==		== Typical Journeymen ==
	The majority of journeymen, however, only briefly become contenders or find themselves the frequent foe of them. The mark of a good journeyman though, is the knowledge that on a good night he can beat a boxer who either isn't what he was billed as, or is having an "off" night. ~~Examples of boxers who could be defined as journeymen include:~~		The majority of journeymen, however, only briefly become contenders or find themselves the frequent foe of them. The mark of a good journeyman though, is the knowledge that on a good night he can beat a boxer who either isn't what he was billed as, or is having an "off" night.

	[[Category:Glossary\|journeyman]]		[[Category:Glossary\|journeyman]]

Declan mcgrath: /* Notable Successful Journeymen */

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Notable Successful Journeymen

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	== Notable Successful Journeymen ==		== Notable Successful Journeymen ==
	There have been boxers who were considered journeyman, who have gone to have professional success in boxing, and captured world championships. Notable examples include:		There have been boxers who were considered journeyman, who have gone to have professional success in boxing, and captured world championships. Notable examples include:
	*[[Jim Braddock]] - A former #1 ranked Light Heavyweight ~~conteder~~, he had been relegated to journeyman status shortly before propelling himself to winning the Heavyweight title from [[Max Baer]].		*[[Jim Braddock]] - A former #1 ranked Light Heavyweight contender, he had been relegated to journeyman status shortly before propelling himself to winning the Heavyweight title from [[Max Baer]].
	*[[Freddie Pendleton]] - overcame a .500 record early in his career to become a Lightweight title holder in the early 1990s.		*[[Freddie Pendleton]] - overcame a .500 record early in his career to become a Lightweight title holder in the early 1990s.
	*[[Teddy (Redtop) Davis]] - a former sparring partner for [[Willie Pep]], he emerged as a top contender during the mid-1950s, and earned a title shot against Featherweight champion [[Sandy Saddler]] in 1955. At the time of the bout, he entered with a record of 62-50-5, which is the worst record in terms of losses of any challenger for a major world title.		*[[Teddy (Redtop) Davis]] - a former sparring partner for [[Willie Pep]], he emerged as a top contender during the mid-1950s, and earned a title shot against Featherweight champion [[Sandy Saddler]] in 1955. At the time of the bout, he entered with a record of 62-50-5, which is the worst record in terms of losses of any challenger for a major world title.

Wouter at 19:46, 14 December 2007

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	*[[Jim Braddock]] - A former #1 ranked Light Heavyweight conteder, he had been relegated to journeyman status shortly before propelling himself to winning the Heavyweight title from [[Max Baer]].		*[[Jim Braddock]] - A former #1 ranked Light Heavyweight conteder, he had been relegated to journeyman status shortly before propelling himself to winning the Heavyweight title from [[Max Baer]].
	*[[Freddie Pendleton]] - overcame a .500 record early in his career to become a Lightweight title holder in the early 1990s.		*[[Freddie Pendleton]] - overcame a .500 record early in his career to become a Lightweight title holder in the early 1990s.
	*[[Teddy (Redtop) Davis]] - a former sparring partner for [[Willie Pep]], he emerged as a top contender during the mid-1950s, and earned a title shot against Featherweight champion [[Sandy Saddler]] in 1955. At the time of the bout, he entered with a record of 55-47-2, which is the worst record in terms of losses of any challenger for a major world title.		*[[Teddy (Redtop) Davis]] - a former sparring partner for [[Willie Pep]], he emerged as a top contender during the mid-1950s, and earned a title shot against Featherweight champion [[Sandy Saddler]] in 1955. At the time of the bout, he entered with a record of 62-50-5, which is the worst record in terms of losses of any challenger for a major world title.
	*[[Emanuel Augustus]].		*[[Emanuel Augustus]].

John: removed Glen Johnson - always a contender never was a journeyman

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	*[[Jim Braddock]] - A former #1 ranked Light Heavyweight conteder, he had been relegated to journeyman status shortly before propelling himself to winning the Heavyweight title from [[Max Baer]].		*[[Jim Braddock]] - A former #1 ranked Light Heavyweight conteder, he had been relegated to journeyman status shortly before propelling himself to winning the Heavyweight title from [[Max Baer]].
	*[[Freddie Pendleton]] - overcame a .500 record early in his career to become a Lightweight title holder in the early 1990s.		*[[Freddie Pendleton]] - overcame a .500 record early in his career to become a Lightweight title holder in the early 1990s.
	*[[Glen Johnson]] - had several unsuccessful title shots and close decision losses with top fighters, before defeating [[Clinton Woods]], [[Roy Jones]], and [[Antonio Tarver]] in 2004, to earn several awards as fighter of the year.
	*[[Teddy (Redtop) Davis]] - a former sparring partner for [[Willie Pep]], he emerged as a top contender during the mid-1950s, and earned a title shot against Featherweight champion [[Sandy Saddler]] in 1955. At the time of the bout, he entered with a record of 55-47-2, which is the worst record in terms of losses of any challenger for a major world title.		*[[Teddy (Redtop) Davis]] - a former sparring partner for [[Willie Pep]], he emerged as a top contender during the mid-1950s, and earned a title shot against Featherweight champion [[Sandy Saddler]] in 1955. At the time of the bout, he entered with a record of 55-47-2, which is the worst record in terms of losses of any challenger for a major world title.
	*[[Emanuel Augustus]].		*[[Emanuel Augustus]].

John: /* Summary */ rewritten definition

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Summary: rewritten definition

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	== Summary ==		== Summary ==
	A "journeyman" is a boxer who ~~is seen as a test for up-and-coming~~ or ~~comebacking boxers who are aspiring to reach contender or championship status. A journeyman is often a boxer who once aspired to reach the same status as the opponent~~ he is ~~facing, but was defeated and shown~~ to ~~have~~ the ~~limitations which would relegate him to that status~~. ~~Journeyman~~ generally ~~are~~ competent boxers who possess ~~either~~ solid boxing skills or the ability to absorb punishment.		A "journeyman" is a boxer who has little or no expectation of winning his fights, thus he is said to be "along for the journey". They are generally competent boxers who possess solid boxing skills and/or the ability to absorb punishment. Often they were aspiring novices or even prospects, but were defeated and found to have limitations which relegated them to the role of journeyman.

	== Notable Successful Journeymen ==		== Notable Successful Journeymen ==

Ric: again, we don't need need a dissertation on Augustus in the context of a definition page; put it in the "Talk" section of his page instead

2006-12-15T18:03:52Z

again, we don't need need a dissertation on Augustus in the context of a definition page; put it in the "Talk" section of his page instead

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	*[[Glen Johnson]] - had several unsuccessful title shots and close decision losses with top fighters, before defeating [[Clinton Woods]], [[Roy Jones]], and [[Antonio Tarver]] in 2004, to earn several awards as fighter of the year.		*[[Glen Johnson]] - had several unsuccessful title shots and close decision losses with top fighters, before defeating [[Clinton Woods]], [[Roy Jones]], and [[Antonio Tarver]] in 2004, to earn several awards as fighter of the year.
	*[[Teddy (Redtop) Davis]] - a former sparring partner for [[Willie Pep]], he emerged as a top contender during the mid-1950s, and earned a title shot against Featherweight champion [[Sandy Saddler]] in 1955. At the time of the bout, he entered with a record of 55-47-2, which is the worst record in terms of losses of any challenger for a major world title.		*[[Teddy (Redtop) Davis]] - a former sparring partner for [[Willie Pep]], he emerged as a top contender during the mid-1950s, and earned a title shot against Featherweight champion [[Sandy Saddler]] in 1955. At the time of the bout, he entered with a record of 55-47-2, which is the worst record in terms of losses of any challenger for a major world title.
	*[[Emanuel Augustus]] ~~is a cult figure all over the world for his willingness to take a fight on a moments notice and often being the victim of erroneous decisions~~.		*[[Emanuel Augustus]].

	== World Champions on the Backside of a Career ==		== World Champions on the Backside of a Career ==

Babba at 16:49, 15 December 2006

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	*[[Glen Johnson]] - had several unsuccessful title shots and close decision losses with top fighters, before defeating [[Clinton Woods]], [[Roy Jones]], and [[Antonio Tarver]] in 2004, to earn several awards as fighter of the year.		*[[Glen Johnson]] - had several unsuccessful title shots and close decision losses with top fighters, before defeating [[Clinton Woods]], [[Roy Jones]], and [[Antonio Tarver]] in 2004, to earn several awards as fighter of the year.
	*[[Teddy (Redtop) Davis]] - a former sparring partner for [[Willie Pep]], he emerged as a top contender during the mid-1950s, and earned a title shot against Featherweight champion [[Sandy Saddler]] in 1955. At the time of the bout, he entered with a record of 55-47-2, which is the worst record in terms of losses of any challenger for a major world title.		*[[Teddy (Redtop) Davis]] - a former sparring partner for [[Willie Pep]], he emerged as a top contender during the mid-1950s, and earned a title shot against Featherweight champion [[Sandy Saddler]] in 1955. At the time of the bout, he entered with a record of 55-47-2, which is the worst record in terms of losses of any challenger for a major world title.
			*[[Emanuel Augustus]] is a cult figure all over the world for his willingness to take a fight on a moments notice and often being the victim of erroneous decisions.

	== World Champions on the Backside of a Career ==		== World Champions on the Backside of a Career ==

Ric at 16:06, 15 December 2006

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	There have been boxers who were considered journeyman, who have gone to have professional success in boxing, and captured world championships. Notable examples include:		There have been boxers who were considered journeyman, who have gone to have professional success in boxing, and captured world championships. Notable examples include:
	*[[Jim Braddock]] - A former #1 ranked Light Heavyweight conteder, he had been relegated to journeyman status shortly before propelling himself to winning the Heavyweight title from [[Max Baer]].		*[[Jim Braddock]] - A former #1 ranked Light Heavyweight conteder, he had been relegated to journeyman status shortly before propelling himself to winning the Heavyweight title from [[Max Baer]].
	*[[Freddie ~~Pendelton~~]] - overcame a .500 record early in his career to become a Lightweight title holder in the early 1990s.		*[[Freddie Pendleton]] - overcame a .500 record early in his career to become a Lightweight title holder in the early 1990s.
	*[[Glen Johnson]] - had several unsuccessful title shots and close decision losses with top fighters, before defeating [[Clinton Woods]], [[Roy Jones]], and [[Antonio Tarver]] in 2004, to earn several awards as fighter of the year.		*[[Glen Johnson]] - had several unsuccessful title shots and close decision losses with top fighters, before defeating [[Clinton Woods]], [[Roy Jones]], and [[Antonio Tarver]] in 2004, to earn several awards as fighter of the year.
	*[[Teddy (Redtop) Davis]] - a former sparring partner for [[Willie Pep]], he emerged as a top contender during the mid-1950s, and earned a title shot against Featherweight champion [[Sandy Saddler]] in 1955. At the time of the bout, he entered with a record of 55-47-2, which is the worst record in terms of losses of any challenger for a major world title.		*[[Teddy (Redtop) Davis]] - a former sparring partner for [[Willie Pep]], he emerged as a top contender during the mid-1950s, and earned a title shot against Featherweight champion [[Sandy Saddler]] in 1955. At the time of the bout, he entered with a record of 55-47-2, which is the worst record in terms of losses of any challenger for a major world title.

Ric: deleted Emanuel Augustus hype

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	== Summary ==		== Summary ==
	A "journeyman" is a boxer who is seen as a test for up-and-coming or comebacking boxers, who are aspiring to reach contender or championship status. A journeyman is often a boxer who once aspired to reach the same status as the opponent he is facing, but was defeated and shown to have the limitations, which would relegate him to that status. Journeyman generally are competent boxers who possess either solid boxing skills, or the ability to absorb punishment.		A "journeyman" is a boxer who is seen as a test for up-and-coming or comebacking boxers who are aspiring to reach contender or championship status. A journeyman is often a boxer who once aspired to reach the same status as the opponent he is facing, but was defeated and shown to have the limitations which would relegate him to that status. Journeyman generally are competent boxers who possess either solid boxing skills or the ability to absorb punishment.

	== Notable Successful Journeymen ==		== Notable Successful Journeymen ==
	There have been boxers who were considered journeyman, who have gone to have professional success in boxing, and captured world championships. Notable examples include		There have been boxers who were considered journeyman, who have gone to have professional success in boxing, and captured world championships. Notable examples include:
	*Jim Braddock - A former #1 ranked Light Heavyweight conteder, he had been relegated to journeyman status, shortly before propelling himself to winning the ~~Heavyeight~~ title from Max Baer		*[[Jim Braddock]] - A former #1 ranked Light Heavyweight conteder, he had been relegated to journeyman status shortly before propelling himself to winning the Heavyweight title from [[Max Baer]].
	*Freddie Pendelton - overcame a .500 record early in his career to become a Lightweight title holder in the early 1990s.		*[[Freddie Pendelton]] - overcame a .500 record early in his career to become a Lightweight title holder in the early 1990s.
	*Glen Johnson - had several ~~unsuccesful~~ title shots and close decision losses with top fighters, before defeating Clinton Woods, Roy Jones, and Antonio Tarver in 2004, to earn several awards as fighter of the year.		*[[Glen Johnson]] - had several unsuccessful title shots and close decision losses with top fighters, before defeating [[Clinton Woods]], [[Roy Jones]], and [[Antonio Tarver]] in 2004, to earn several awards as fighter of the year.
	*Teddy (Redtop) Davis - a former sparring partner for Willie Pep, he emerged as a top contender during the mid-~~50s~~, and earned a title shot against Featherweight champion Sandy Saddler in 1955. At the time of the bout, he entered with a record of 55-47-2; which is the worst record in terms of losses of any challenger for a major world title.		*[[Teddy (Redtop) Davis]] - a former sparring partner for [[Willie Pep]], he emerged as a top contender during the mid-1950s, and earned a title shot against Featherweight champion [[Sandy Saddler]] in 1955. At the time of the bout, he entered with a record of 55-47-2, which is the worst record in terms of losses of any challenger for a major world title.

	== World Champions on the Backside of a Career ==		== World Champions on the Backside of a Career ==
	Several world champions and top contenders have also become journeyman as their skills eroded and age caught up with them, Sugar Ray Robinson being a notable example during the last years of his career in the 1960s. Other outstanding boxers who continued on as journeyman, include; Joe Brown, Fritzie Zivic, and Iran Barkley. Documentary filmmaker Sean Lynn is currently in production on a documentary film entitled "The Journeyman". The film will tell the story ofjourneyman boxer Emanuel Augustus as he embarks on one last quest to become a world champion. Augustus is a cult figure all over the world for his willingness to take a fight on a moments notice and often being the victim of erroneous decisions. If there is one fighter today that really embodies the journeyman spirit it is Emanuel Augustus.		Several world champions and top contenders have also become journeyman as their skills eroded and age caught up with them, [[Sugar Ray Robinson]] being a notable example during the last years of his career in the 1960s.

			Other outstanding boxers who continued on as journeyman, include: [[Joe Brown]], [[Fritzie Zivic]], and [[Iran Barkley]].


	== Typical Journeymen ==		== Typical Journeymen ==

Grandwizerd: /* World Champions on the Backside of a Career */

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	== World Champions on the Backside of a Career ==		== World Champions on the Backside of a Career ==
	Several world champions and top contenders have also become journeyman as their skills eroded and age caught up with them, Sugar Ray Robinson being a notable example during the last years of his career in the 1960s. Other outstanding boxers who continued on as journeyman, include; Joe Brown, Fritzie Zivic, and Iran Barkley. Documentary filmmaker Sean Lynn is currently in production on a documentary film entitled "The Journeyman". The film will tell story ofjourneyman boxer Emanuel Augustus as he embarks on one last quest to become a world champion. Augustus is a cult figure all over the world for his willingness to take a fight on a moments notice and often being the victim of erroneous decisions. If there is one fighter today that really embodies the journeyman spirit it is Emanuel Augustus.		Several world champions and top contenders have also become journeyman as their skills eroded and age caught up with them, Sugar Ray Robinson being a notable example during the last years of his career in the 1960s. Other outstanding boxers who continued on as journeyman, include; Joe Brown, Fritzie Zivic, and Iran Barkley. Documentary filmmaker Sean Lynn is currently in production on a documentary film entitled "The Journeyman". The film will tell the story ofjourneyman boxer Emanuel Augustus as he embarks on one last quest to become a world champion. Augustus is a cult figure all over the world for his willingness to take a fight on a moments notice and often being the victim of erroneous decisions. If there is one fighter today that really embodies the journeyman spirit it is Emanuel Augustus.

	== Typical Journeymen ==		== Typical Journeymen ==