Morrie Schlaifer - Revision history

Ric: info from Dustin Ginsburg (descendant); more to come

2023-03-25T16:03:34Z

info from Dustin Ginsburg (descendant); more to come

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	~~Per the Feb~~. ~~6, 1925 ''Daily News Searchlight'' newspaper of Bremerton, WA, USA, '''Morris Schlaifer''' was also known as the "Murdering Jew."~~		[[:File:MORRIE SCHLAIFER.jpg\|Image 2]]

	Records about Morris Schlaifer ~~are~~ difficult to navigate. There was a Morris Edward Schlaifer born Feb. 4, 1895 in Omaha and who died in 1980 in Westchester, NY. He worked as a clerk in the embassy from 1917-1920, and was 5'7" inches tall. He sort of fits but a passport picture doesn't look like the same person. Also, in his two draft cards (WWI and WWII) he is listed as "fair" complexioned, and the boxer Schlaifer does not look "fair." (He also is wearing glasses in his passport photo)		Records about '''Morris Schlaifer''' have been difficult to navigate.

	There is a Morris Schlaifer born April 1, 1894, in Russia, who died in 1978 in Florida. There is little reason to believe this Morris is the boxer Schlaifer other than faulty genealogy from family trees in Ancestry.Com. They seem to just have taken a leap of faith that he is the same one and put his name in as a child of Abraham Schlaifer of Omaha. There is no record of a Morris Schlaifer who is a child of Abraham in any census data. However, there is a "Boris" who is his child, and is in the 1910 and 1930 censuses, living with him. He lived 1901-1959. He could be mistakenly reported as "Boris" instead of "Morris." The first one, Morris Edward Schlaifer, and Boris Schlaifer, son of Abraham appear related. The Morris Schlaifer who died in Florida is not related.		For example, there was a Morris Edward Schlaifer born Feb. 4, 1895, in Omaha and who died in 1980 in Westchester, NY. He worked as a clerk in the embassy from 1917-1920, and was 5'7" inches tall. He sort of fits, but a passport picture doesn't look like the same person. Also, in his two draft cards (WWI and WWII) he is listed as "fair" complexioned, and the boxer Schlaifer does not look "fair." (He also is wearing glasses in his passport photo.)

			There is also a Morris Schlaifer born April 1, 1894, in Russia, who died in 1978 in Florida. There is little reason to believe this Morris is the boxer Schlaifer other than faulty genealogy from family trees in Ancestry.Com. They seem to just have taken a leap of faith that he is the same one and put his name in as a child of Abraham Schlaifer of Omaha. There is no record of a Morris Schlaifer who is a child of Abraham in any census data. However, there is a "Boris" who is his child, and is in the 1910 and 1930 censuses, living with him. He lived 1901-1959. He could be mistakenly reported as "Boris" instead of "Morris." The first one, Morris Edward Schlaifer, and Boris Schlaifer, son of Abraham appear related. The Morris Schlaifer who died in Florida is not related. (Per an email to BoxRec from Dustin, a descendant, he confirms that Morris was the son of Abraham.)

	There is a 1923 newspaper story that said Schlaifer the boxer was 21 at the time, which seems more in line with where he was in his career, than age 26 or 27--which he would have been if he had been born in 1894 and 1895.		There is a 1923 newspaper story that said Schlaifer the boxer was 21 at the time, which seems more in line with where he was in his career, than age 26 or 27--which he would have been if he had been born in 1894 and 1895.

			Per the Feb. 6, 1925 ''Daily News Searchlight'' newspaper of Bremerton, WA, USA, Schlaifer was also nicknamed the "Murdering Jew."

	His obituary is in the January 19, 1959 edition of the ''Columbus Daily Telegram''. He died at age 57 of a heart attack in Omaha on January 18, 1959. His obit says he made $100,000 in boxing but was hounded by creditors after he retired. It also reports that he started fighting at 17 under the name "Jack Ryan" and was nicknamed "The Fighting Fool." And that [[Mickey Walker]] called him the hardest hitter he had ever faced.		His obituary is in the January 19, 1959 edition of the ''Columbus Daily Telegram''. He died at age 57 of a heart attack in Omaha on January 18, 1959. His obit says he made $100,000 in boxing but was hounded by creditors after he retired. It also reports that he started fighting at 17 under the name "Jack Ryan" and was nicknamed "The Fighting Fool." And that [[Mickey Walker]] called him the hardest hitter he had ever faced.

	*[[:File:MORRIE SCHLAIFER.jpg\|Image 2]]

	[[Category:Jewish Boxers\|Schlaifer, Morrie]]		[[Category:Jewish Boxers\|Schlaifer, Morrie]]

Ric at 20:41, 11 January 2018

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	His obituary is in the January 19, 1959 edition of the ''Columbus Daily Telegram''. He died at age 57 of a heart attack in Omaha on January 18, 1959. His obit says he made $100,000 in boxing but was hounded by creditors after he retired. It also reports that he started fighting at 17 under the name "Jack Ryan" and was nicknamed "The Fighting Fool." And that [[Mickey Walker]] called him the hardest hitter he had ever faced.		His obituary is in the January 19, 1959 edition of the ''Columbus Daily Telegram''. He died at age 57 of a heart attack in Omaha on January 18, 1959. His obit says he made $100,000 in boxing but was hounded by creditors after he retired. It also reports that he started fighting at 17 under the name "Jack Ryan" and was nicknamed "The Fighting Fool." And that [[Mickey Walker]] called him the hardest hitter he had ever faced.

			*[[:File:MORRIE SCHLAIFER.jpg\|Image 2]]

	[[Category:Jewish Boxers\|Schlaifer, Morrie]]		[[Category:Jewish Boxers\|Schlaifer, Morrie]]

Ric: edited 1st person text

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	Per the Feb. 6, 1925 ''Daily News Searchlight'' newspaper of Bremerton, WA, USA, '''Morris Schlaifer''' was also known as the "Murdering Jew."		Per the Feb. 6, 1925 ''Daily News Searchlight'' newspaper of Bremerton, WA, USA, '''Morris Schlaifer''' was also known as the "Murdering Jew."

	~~[[Category:Jewish Boxers\|~~Schlaifer, ~~Morrie]]~~		Records about Morris Schlaifer are difficult to navigate. There was a Morris Edward Schlaifer born Feb. 4, 1895 in Omaha and who died in 1980 in Westchester, NY. He worked as a clerk in the embassy from 1917-1920, and was 5'7" inches tall. He sort of fits but a passport picture doesn't look like the same person. Also, in his two draft cards (WWI and WWII) he is listed as "fair" complexioned, and the boxer Schlaifer does not look "fair." (He also is wearing glasses in his passport photo)

	~~Records about Morris Schlaifer are difficult to navigate.~~ There ~~was~~ a Morris ~~Edward~~ Schlaifer born ~~2-4-1895~~ in ~~Omaha that~~ died in ~~1980~~ in ~~Westchester, NY~~. ~~He worked as a clerk in~~ the ~~embassy~~ from ~~1917-1920 and was 5'7" inches tall~~. ~~He sort~~ of ~~fits but I found his passport picture and it just doesn't look like~~ the same ~~guy~~. ~~Also~~, in his ~~two draft cards (wwi~~ and ~~ww2) he~~ is ~~listed~~ as "~~fair~~" ~~complexioned~~, and ~~the boxer~~ Schlaifer ~~does~~ not ~~look fair to me~~. ~~(He also is wearing glasses in his passport photo)~~		There is a Morris Schlaifer born April 1, 1894, in Russia, who died in 1978 in Florida. There is little reason to believe this Morris is the boxer Schlaifer other than faulty genealogy from family trees in Ancestry.Com. They seem to just have taken a leap of faith that he is the same one and put his name in as a child of Abraham Schlaifer of Omaha. There is no record of a Morris Schlaifer who is a child of Abraham in any census data. However, there is a "Boris" who is his child, and is in the 1910 and 1930 censuses, living with him. He lived 1901-1959. He could be mistakenly reported as "Boris" instead of "Morris." The first one, Morris Edward Schlaifer, and Boris Schlaifer, son of Abraham appear related. The Morris Schlaifer who died in Florida is not related.

	There is a ~~Morris~~ Schlaifer ~~born April 1st 1894~~ in ~~Russia who died~~ in ~~1978 in Florida. These are the vitals that were listed on Boxrec that I've changed. I can't find any reason to believe this Morris is the boxer Schlaifer other~~ than ~~faulty genealogy from family trees in Ancestry.Com. They seem to just~~ have ~~taken a leap of faith that~~ he ~~is the one~~ and ~~put his name in as a child of Abraham Schlaifer of Omaha~~.		There is a 1923 newspaper story that said Schlaifer the boxer was 21 at the time, which seems more in line with where he was in his career, than age 26 or 27--which he would have been if he had been born in 1894 and 1895.

	~~I can't find a record of a Morris Schlaifer who~~ is ~~a child of Abraham~~ in ~~any census data~~, ~~however, there is a "Boris" who is his child and is in~~ the ~~1910 and 1930 census living with him~~. He ~~lived 1901-~~1959. ~~He could be mistakenly reported as "Boris" instead of "Morris~~, ~~although I doubt it~~.~~I believe~~ that the ~~first one, Morris Edward Schlaifer,~~ and ~~Boris Schlaifer, son of Abraham are related~~. ~~I don't think~~ the ~~Morris Schlaifer who died in Florida is related~~.		His obituary is in the January 19, 1959 edition of the ''Columbus Daily Telegram''. He died at age 57 of a heart attack in Omaha on January 18, 1959. His obit says he made $100,000 in boxing but was hounded by creditors after he retired. It also reports that he started fighting at 17 under the name "Jack Ryan" and was nicknamed "The Fighting Fool." And that [[Mickey Walker]] called him the hardest hitter he had ever faced.

	~~I found a newspaper story from 1923 that said~~ Schlaifer ~~the boxer was 21~~, ~~which seems more in line with where he was in his career than 26 or 27 which he would be if he were born in 1894 and 1895, so for now I have changed his birth year to 1901.~~		[[Category:Jewish Boxers\|Schlaifer, Morrie]]

	~~(David McWater)~~
	I found his obit in the January 19th, 1959 edition of the Columbus Daily Telegram. He died at age 57 of a heart attack in Omaha on January 18th, 1959. His obit says he made $100,000 in boxing but was hounded by creditors after he retired. Also says he started fighting at 17 under the name "Jack Ryan" and was nicknamed "The Fighting Fool". Says Mickey Walker called him the hardest hitter he ever faced.

Daveymac at 13:30, 20 November 2014

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			I found his obit in the January 19th, 1959 edition of the Columbus Daily Telegram. He died at age 57 of a heart attack in Omaha on January 18th, 1959. His obit says he made $100,000 in boxing but was hounded by creditors after he retired. Also says he started fighting at 17 under the name "Jack Ryan" and was nicknamed "The Fighting Fool". Says Mickey Walker called him the hardest hitter he ever faced.

Daveymac at 13:22, 20 November 2014

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	[[Category:Jewish Boxers\|Schlaifer, Morrie]]		[[Category:Jewish Boxers\|Schlaifer, Morrie]]

			Records about Morris Schlaifer are difficult to navigate. There was a Morris Edward Schlaifer born 2-4-1895 in Omaha that died in 1980 in Westchester, NY. He worked as a clerk in the embassy from 1917-1920 and was 5'7" inches tall. He sort of fits but I found his passport picture and it just doesn't look like the same guy. Also, in his two draft cards (wwi and ww2) he is listed as "fair" complexioned, and the boxer Schlaifer does not look fair to me. (He also is wearing glasses in his passport photo)

			There is a Morris Schlaifer born April 1st 1894 in Russia who died in 1978 in Florida. These are the vitals that were listed on Boxrec that I've changed. I can't find any reason to believe this Morris is the boxer Schlaifer other than faulty genealogy from family trees in Ancestry.Com. They seem to just have taken a leap of faith that he is the one and put his name in as a child of Abraham Schlaifer of Omaha.

			I can't find a record of a Morris Schlaifer who is a child of Abraham in any census data, however, there is a "Boris" who is his child and is in the 1910 and 1930 census living with him. He lived 1901-1959. He could be mistakenly reported as "Boris" instead of "Morris, although I doubt it.I believe that the first one, Morris Edward Schlaifer, and Boris Schlaifer, son of Abraham are related. I don't think the Morris Schlaifer who died in Florida is related.

			I found a newspaper story from 1923 that said Schlaifer the boxer was 21, which seems more in line with where he was in his career than 26 or 27 which he would be if he were born in 1894 and 1895, so for now I have changed his birth year to 1901.

			(David McWater)

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	Per the Feb. 6, 1925 ~~DAILY NEWS SEARCHLIGHT~~ of Bremerton, WA, USA, Schlaifer was also known as the "Murdering Jew."		Per the Feb. 6, 1925 ''Daily News Searchlight'' newspaper of Bremerton, WA, USA, '''Morris Schlaifer''' was also known as the "Murdering Jew."

	[[Category:Jewish Boxers\|Schlaifer, Morrie]]		[[Category:Jewish Boxers\|Schlaifer, Morrie]]

Matt at 14:50, 9 December 2005

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	Per the Feb. 6, 1925 DAILY NEWS SEARCHLIGHT of Bremerton, WA, USA, Schlaifer was also known as the "Murdering Jew."		Per the Feb. 6, 1925 DAILY NEWS SEARCHLIGHT of Bremerton, WA, USA, Schlaifer was also known as the "Murdering Jew."

			[[Category:Jewish Boxers\|Schlaifer, Morrie]]

Unknown user at 00:00, 1 January 2005

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Per the Feb. 6, 1925 DAILY NEWS SEARCHLIGHT of Bremerton, WA, USA, Schlaifer was also known as the "Murdering Jew."