Muhammad Ali vs. Joe Bugner (2nd meeting) - Revision history

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	== See Also ==		== See Also ==
	*[[Muhammad Ali vs. Joe Bugner (1st meeting)]]		*[[Muhammad Ali vs. Joe Bugner (1st meeting)]]

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	===Ranking Movements===		===Ranking Movements===
	*Buger ranked fourth by The Ring Magazine and WBC at the start of 1975.		*Buger ranked fourth by The Ring Magazine and WBC at the start of 1975.
	*In March, Bugner moved up to third by both organizations after Ron Lyle was dropped to seventh and eighth, respectively, after his loss to unranked [[Jimmy Young]]. Young was moved to ninth by the WBC, remaining below Lyle, and seventh by The Ring.		*In its February rankings published early March, Bugner moved up to third by both organizations after Ron Lyle was dropped to seventh and eighth, respectively, after his loss to unranked [[Jimmy Young]]. Young was moved to ninth by the WBC, remaining below Lyle, and seventh by The Ring.
	*In April, WBC moved Bugner to second, only behind [[Joe Frazier]], while Ring Magazine dropped him to fourth.		*In the March rankings published early April, WBC moved Bugner to second, only behind [[Joe Frazier]], while Ring Magazine dropped him to fourth.

	===The Fight===		===The Fight===

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	===Ranking Movements===		===Ranking Movements===
	*Buger ranked fourth by The Ring Magazine and WBC at the start of 1975.		*Buger ranked fourth by The Ring Magazine and WBC at the start of 1975.
	*In March, Bugner moved up to third by both organizations after Ron Lyle was dropped to seventh and eighth, respectively, after his loss to unranked [[Jimmy Young]].		*In March, Bugner moved up to third by both organizations after Ron Lyle was dropped to seventh and eighth, respectively, after his loss to unranked [[Jimmy Young]]. Young was moved to ninth by the WBC, remaining below Lyle, and seventh by The Ring.
	*~~The next issue~~, Bugner ~~was again bumped~~ to ~~fourth after~~ [[~~Ken Norton~~]] ~~was promoted~~ to ~~third~~.		*In April, WBC moved Bugner to second, only behind [[Joe Frazier]], while Ring Magazine dropped him to fourth.

	===The Fight===		===The Fight===

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	===Ranking Movements===		===Ranking Movements===
	*Buger ranked fourth by The Ring Magazine at the start of 1975.		*Buger ranked fourth by The Ring Magazine and WBC at the start of 1975.
	*In ~~the rankings published around~~ March 15, Bugner moved up to third after ~~The Ring decided to drop~~ Lyle to eighth; [[Jimmy Young]]~~, who beat Lyle on February 11, was placed seventh~~.		*In March, Bugner moved up to third by both organizations after Ron Lyle was dropped to seventh and eighth, respectively, after his loss to unranked [[Jimmy Young]].
	*The next issue, Bugner was again bumped to fourth after [[Ken Norton]] was promoted to third.		*The next issue, Bugner was again bumped to fourth after [[Ken Norton]] was promoted to third.

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	\| WBA \|\| N/A \|\| N/A \|\| N/A		\| WBA \|\| N/A \|\| N/A \|\| N/A
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	\| WBC \|\| NR \|\| 28.02.1975 \|\| by 06.03.1975		\| WBC \|\| 3 \|\| 28.02.1975 \|\| by 06.03.1975
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	\| Ring \|\| 3 \|\| ~01.03.1975 \|\| by 15.03.1975		\| Ring \|\| 3 \|\| ~01.03.1975 \|\| by 15.03.1975
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	\| WBA \|\| N/A \|\| N/A \|\| N/A		\| WBA \|\| N/A \|\| N/A \|\| N/A
	\|-		\|-
	\| WBC \|\| NR \|\| 31.01.1975 \|\| by 25.02.1975		\| WBC \|\| 4 \|\| 31.01.1975 \|\| by 25.02.1975
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	\| Ring \|\| 4 \|\| 02.1974 \|\| by 25.02.1975		\| Ring \|\| 4 \|\| 02.1974 \|\| by 25.02.1975
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	\| WBA \|\| N/A \|\| N/A \|\| N/A		\| WBA \|\| N/A \|\| N/A \|\| N/A
	\|-		\|-
	\| WBC \|\| NR \|\| 31.12.1974 \|\| 21.01.1975		\| WBC \|\| 4 \|\| 31.12.1974 \|\| 21.01.1975
	\|-		\|-
	\| Ring \|\| 4 \|\| 01.1975 \|\| by 17.01.1975		\| Ring \|\| 4 \|\| 01.1975 \|\| by 17.01.1975

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	*Buger ranked fourth by The Ring Magazine at the start of 1975.		*Buger ranked fourth by The Ring Magazine at the start of 1975.
	*In the rankings published around March 15, Bugner moved up to third after The Ring decided to drop Lyle to eighth; [[Jimmy Young]], who beat Lyle on February 11, was placed seventh.		*In the rankings published around March 15, Bugner moved up to third after The Ring decided to drop Lyle to eighth; [[Jimmy Young]], who beat Lyle on February 11, was placed seventh.
			*The next issue, Bugner was again bumped to fourth after [[Ken Norton]] was promoted to third.

	===The Fight===		===The Fight===

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	*On April 22, Ali revealed that he had four different offers on the table at that moment: against Bugner in Europe, Dominican Republic and Malaysia and against Frazier in New Orleans. According to Herbert Muhammad, final decision would be made after Ali defended his title against Lyle on May 16.[https://www.newspapers.com/image/1168806934]		*On April 22, Ali revealed that he had four different offers on the table at that moment: against Bugner in Europe, Dominican Republic and Malaysia and against Frazier in New Orleans. According to Herbert Muhammad, final decision would be made after Ali defended his title against Lyle on May 16.[https://www.newspapers.com/image/1168806934]
	*Nevertheless, on April 25 Ali signed the Malaysia offer; Bugner signed it on April 27.[https://www.newspapers.com/image/889565370/]		*Nevertheless, on April 25 Ali signed the Malaysia offer; Bugner signed it on April 27.[https://www.newspapers.com/image/889565370/]

			===Ranking Movements===
			*Buger ranked fourth by The Ring Magazine at the start of 1975.
			*In the rankings published around March 15, Bugner moved up to third after The Ring decided to drop Lyle to eighth; [[Jimmy Young]], who beat Lyle on February 11, was placed seventh.

	===The Fight===		===The Fight===

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	*On April 3, Andy Smith announced that negotiations were off after Ali opted to face [[Ron Lyle]] instead.[https://www.newspapers.com/image/133888413/][https://www.newspapers.com/image/796925377/]		*On April 3, Andy Smith announced that negotiations were off after Ali opted to face [[Ron Lyle]] instead.[https://www.newspapers.com/image/133888413/][https://www.newspapers.com/image/796925377/]
	*On April 22, Ali revealed that he had four different offers on the table at that moment: against Bugner in Europe, Dominican Republic and Malaysia and against Frazier in New Orleans. According to Herbert Muhammad, final decision would be made after Ali defended his title against Lyle on May 16.[https://www.newspapers.com/image/1168806934]		*On April 22, Ali revealed that he had four different offers on the table at that moment: against Bugner in Europe, Dominican Republic and Malaysia and against Frazier in New Orleans. According to Herbert Muhammad, final decision would be made after Ali defended his title against Lyle on May 16.[https://www.newspapers.com/image/1168806934]
	*Nevertheless, on April 25 Ali signed the Malaysia ~~deal~~; Bugner signed it on April 27.[https://www.newspapers.com/image/889565370/]		*Nevertheless, on April 25 Ali signed the Malaysia offer; Bugner signed it on April 27.[https://www.newspapers.com/image/889565370/]

	===The Fight===		===The Fight===

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	*On April 3, Andy Smith announced that negotiations were off after Ali opted to face [[Ron Lyle]] instead.[https://www.newspapers.com/image/133888413/][https://www.newspapers.com/image/796925377/]		*On April 3, Andy Smith announced that negotiations were off after Ali opted to face [[Ron Lyle]] instead.[https://www.newspapers.com/image/133888413/][https://www.newspapers.com/image/796925377/]
	*On April 22, Ali revealed that he had four different offers on the table at that moment: against Bugner in Europe, Dominican Republic and Malaysia and against Frazier in New Orleans. According to Herbert Muhammad, final decision would be made after Ali defended his title against Lyle on May 16.[https://www.newspapers.com/image/1168806934]		*On April 22, Ali revealed that he had four different offers on the table at that moment: against Bugner in Europe, Dominican Republic and Malaysia and against Frazier in New Orleans. According to Herbert Muhammad, final decision would be made after Ali defended his title against Lyle on May 16.[https://www.newspapers.com/image/1168806934]
	*~~Despite this~~, Ali signed the Malaysia deal ~~on April 25~~; Bugner signed it on April 27.[https://www.newspapers.com/image/889565370/]		*Nevertheless, on April 25 Ali signed the Malaysia deal; Bugner signed it on April 27.[https://www.newspapers.com/image/889565370/]

	===The Fight===		===The Fight===

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	*After defending the title against Chuck Wepner on March 24, Ali again confirmed that he would like to face Bugner next.[https://www.newspapers.com/image/592441569/]		*After defending the title against Chuck Wepner on March 24, Ali again confirmed that he would like to face Bugner next.[https://www.newspapers.com/image/592441569/]
	*On April 3, Andy Smith announced that negotiations were off after Ali opted to face [[Ron Lyle]] instead.[https://www.newspapers.com/image/133888413/][https://www.newspapers.com/image/796925377/]		*On April 3, Andy Smith announced that negotiations were off after Ali opted to face [[Ron Lyle]] instead.[https://www.newspapers.com/image/133888413/][https://www.newspapers.com/image/796925377/]
	*On April 22, Ali revealed that he had four different offers on the table at that moment: against Bugner in Europe, Dominican Republic and Malaysia and against Frazier in New Orleans.[https://www.newspapers.com/image/1168806934]		*On April 22, Ali revealed that he had four different offers on the table at that moment: against Bugner in Europe, Dominican Republic and Malaysia and against Frazier in New Orleans. According to Herbert Muhammad, final decision would be made after Ali defended his title against Lyle on May 16.[https://www.newspapers.com/image/1168806934]
	*Ali signed the deal on April 25; Bugner signed it on April 27.[https://www.newspapers.com/image/889565370/]		*Despite this, Ali signed the Malaysia deal on April 25; Bugner signed it on April 27.[https://www.newspapers.com/image/889565370/]

	===The Fight===		===The Fight===