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Fep70: Answering a few questions

2014-01-24T18:53:57Z

Answering a few questions

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	2. According to the WBC ratings, [[Jorge Linares]] won the WBC featherweight world title on July 21, 2007, the day of his fight with [[Oscar Larios]], which was originally meant to be an eliminator. On July 31, 2007, Linares's predecessor as WBC featherweight world champion, [[In-Jin Chi]], vacated his title. Does that mean that Linares's eliminator fight with Larios has retroactively been upgraded to a fight for the vacant WBC featherweight world title and that Chi's reign is considered to have ended on July 21, 2007 although he announced to vacate his title only on July 31, 2007? Or does Linares's fight with Larios remain an eliminator and Linares was appointed champion without having to win a title fight (as had been the case with [[Ken Norton]], [[Lennox Lewis]] and [[Oscar De La Hoya]] before)? On which date did Chi's reign end? And on which date did Linares's reign begin?		2. According to the WBC ratings, [[Jorge Linares]] won the WBC featherweight world title on July 21, 2007, the day of his fight with [[Oscar Larios]], which was originally meant to be an eliminator. On July 31, 2007, Linares's predecessor as WBC featherweight world champion, [[In-Jin Chi]], vacated his title. Does that mean that Linares's eliminator fight with Larios has retroactively been upgraded to a fight for the vacant WBC featherweight world title and that Chi's reign is considered to have ended on July 21, 2007 although he announced to vacate his title only on July 31, 2007? Or does Linares's fight with Larios remain an eliminator and Linares was appointed champion without having to win a title fight (as had been the case with [[Ken Norton]], [[Lennox Lewis]] and [[Oscar De La Hoya]] before)? On which date did Chi's reign end? And on which date did Linares's reign begin?
			Answer: Linares won the Interim title, then was upgraded to full champion 10 days later.

	3. According to [http://www.hbo.com/boxing/people#/boxing/people/marco-antonio-barrera/index.html HBO's biography] on [[Marco Antonio Barrera]], he refused to accept the WBC featherweight title after taking it from [[Erik Morales]] on June 22, 2002: "Despite winning the WBC featherweight crown from Morales, Barrera refused the belt, choosing to set an example for other world-class fighters who don't need a sanctioning body to declare them as champion."		3. According to [http://www.hbo.com/boxing/people#/boxing/people/marco-antonio-barrera/index.html HBO's biography] on [[Marco Antonio Barrera]], he refused to accept the WBC featherweight title after taking it from [[Erik Morales]] on June 22, 2002: "Despite winning the WBC featherweight crown from Morales, Barrera refused the belt, choosing to set an example for other world-class fighters who don't need a sanctioning body to declare them as champion."

	Does that mean that Barrera abandoned the title immediately after winning it? If so, on which date did he vacate his title? Or was he technically stripped of it? Or has Barrera even never held the title with the fight retroactively being declared a ~~nontitle~~ affair and Morales being stripped of the title for losing the fight?		Does that mean that Barrera abandoned the title immediately after winning it? If so, on which date did he vacate his title? Or was he technically stripped of it? Or has Barrera even never held the title with the fight retroactively being declared a non-title affair and Morales being stripped of the title for losing the fight?

	The title may have been on the line for Morales only as has been suggested [http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4886]. [[Erik Morales vs. Marco Antonio Barrera (2nd meeting)\|This wiki fight page]] says, "With the loss, Morales' WBC featherweight title becomes vacant. (Barrera didn't accept the WBC title)"		The title may have been on the line for Morales only as has been suggested [http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4886]. [[Erik Morales vs. Marco Antonio Barrera (2nd meeting)\|This wiki fight page]] says, "With the loss, Morales' WBC featherweight title becomes vacant. (Barrera didn't accept the WBC title)"
			Answer: Morales lost it against - but not to - Barrera, so it became vacant. Had Morales won it would have counted as a successful title defence.


	4. What is the final ruling on [[Graciano Rocchigiani]] and [[Roy Jones Jr.\|Roy Jones Jr.'s]] world championship statuses during the time both of them were world champions? Rocchigiani won the vacant world title on March 21, 1998 and has to be considered WBC light heavyweight world champion until April 15, 2000 according to a verdict. Did the judgement also affect Roy Jones's world championship status during that period of time? And what was Jones's status before the beginning of his shared reign? He had announced he would vacate his WBC light heavyweight world title.		4. What is the final ruling on [[Graciano Rocchigiani]] and [[Roy Jones Jr.\|Roy Jones Jr.'s]] world championship statuses during the time both of them were world champions? Rocchigiani won the vacant world title on March 21, 1998 and has to be considered WBC light heavyweight world champion until April 15, 2000 according to a verdict. Did the judgement also affect Roy Jones's world championship status during that period of time? And what was Jones's status before the beginning of his shared reign? He had announced he would vacate his WBC light heavyweight world title.

Emaster: updated

2012-01-20T17:08:16Z

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Rowdytimothy: fix internal link

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	[[Diego Corrales]] and Joel Casamayor competed for the vacant (?) WBC lightweight title (?) on October 7, 2006.		[[Diego Corrales]] and Joel Casamayor competed for the vacant (?) WBC lightweight title (?) on October 7, 2006.

	[[Clemente Sanchez]] and [[Jose Legra]] competed for the vacant (?) WBC featherweight title (?) on December 16, 1972.		[[Clemente Sanchez (of Mexico)\|Clemente Sanchez]] and [[Jose Legra]] competed for the vacant (?) WBC featherweight title (?) on December 16, 1972.

	[[Manny Pacquiao]] and [[Medgoen Singsurat]] competed for the vacant (?) WBC flyweight title (?) on September 17, 1999.		[[Manny Pacquiao]] and [[Medgoen Singsurat]] competed for the vacant (?) WBC flyweight title (?) on September 17, 1999.

Emaster: raised questions on Israel Vazquez's WBC super bantamweight championship

2008-12-23T19:42:28Z

raised questions on Israel Vazquez's WBC super bantamweight championship

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	== Catalogue of questions regarding the WBC ==		== Catalogue of questions regarding the WBC ==

	1. ~~On which dates did~~ [[~~Floyd Mayweather Jr.\|Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s~~]] WBC ~~welterweight~~, [[~~Manny Pacquiao\|Manny Pacquiao's~~]] ~~WBC super featherweight~~, ~~and [[Jorge Linares\|Jorge Linares's]] WBC featherweight titles become~~ vacant? Did ~~the title holders~~ relinquish ~~their belts~~ or ~~were they~~ stripped of ~~them~~?		1. Has [[Israel Vazquez]] lost his WBC super bantamweight title? If so, has the interim titlist, [[Toshiaki Nishioka]], been elevated to full champion or is the title still vacant? Did Vasquez relinquish his belt or was he stripped of it?

	2. ~~Does the~~ WBC ~~still consider the bout between~~ [[~~Humberto Soto~~]] and [[~~Francisco Lorenzo~~]] ~~held on June 28, 2008 a championship fight with the vacant~~ WBC ~~super~~ featherweight ~~interim world~~ title ~~at stake~~ or ~~has the recognition as a title fight retroactively been withdrawn~~? ~~(Because of the NC result the title remains vacant anyway, nevertheless the match could still be deemed to be a title fight with the title remaining vacant.)~~		2. On which dates did [[Floyd Mayweather Jr.\|Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s]] WBC welterweight, [[Manny Pacquiao\|Manny Pacquiao's]] WBC super featherweight, and [[Jorge Linares\|Jorge Linares's]] WBC featherweight titles become vacant? Did the title holders relinquish their belts or were they stripped of them?

	3. ~~Was~~ the ~~fight~~ between [[~~John Ruiz~~]] and [[~~Jameel McCline~~]] held on ~~March 8~~, 2008 a WBC ~~heavyweight~~ world title ~~eliminator~~? ~~If yes~~, ~~for which spot in~~ the ~~WBC ranking?~~		3. Does the WBC still consider the bout between [[Humberto Soto]] and [[Francisco Lorenzo]] held on June 28, 2008 a championship fight with the vacant WBC super featherweight interim world title at stake or has the recognition as a title fight retroactively been withdrawn? (Because of the NC result the title remains vacant anyway, nevertheless the match could still be deemed to be a title fight with the title remaining vacant.)

	4. ~~Were~~ [[~~Joel Casamayor~~]] and [[~~Samuel Peter~~]] ~~declared the~~ WBC ~~interim~~ world ~~champions in their respective weight divisions without having to win a vacant~~ title ~~so that their fights with [[Jose Armando Santa Cruz]] on November 10~~, ~~2007 or Jameel McCline on October 6, 2007 respectively are to be deemed title defenses (not fights~~ for ~~vacant titles)~~?		4. Was the fight between [[John Ruiz]] and [[Jameel McCline]] held on March 8, 2008 a WBC heavyweight world title eliminator? If yes, for which spot in the WBC ranking?

	5. ~~According to the WBC ratings,~~ [[~~Jorge Linares~~]] ~~won the WBC featherweight world title on July 21, 2007, the day of his fight with~~ [[~~Oscar Larios~~]]~~, which was originally meant to be an eliminator. On July 31, 2007, Linares's predecessor as~~ WBC ~~featherweight~~ world ~~champion, [[In-Jin Chi]], vacated his title. Does that mean that Linares's eliminator fight with Larios has retroactively been upgraded~~ to a ~~fight for the~~ vacant ~~WBC featherweight world~~ title ~~and~~ that ~~Chi's reign is considered to have ended~~ on ~~July 21~~, 2007 ~~though he declared that he was vacating his title only~~ on ~~July 31~~, 2007~~? Or does Linares's fight with Larios remain an eliminator and Linares was appointed champion without taking part in a~~ title ~~fight~~ (~~as was the case with [[Lennox Lewis]] and [[Ken Norton]] years ago~~)~~? On which date did Chi's reign end? And on which date did Linares's reign begin~~?		5. Were [[Joel Casamayor]] and [[Samuel Peter]] declared the WBC interim world champions in their respective weight divisions without having to win a vacant title so that their fights with [[Jose Armando Santa Cruz]] on November 10, 2007 or Jameel McCline on October 6, 2007 respectively are to be deemed title defenses (not fights for vacant titles)?

	6. ~~After~~ [[~~Marco Antonio Barrera~~]] ~~had defeated then~~ WBC featherweight world champion [[~~Erik Morales~~]] ~~on June 22~~, ~~2002, Barrera refused to accept the~~ title. Does that mean that ~~Barrera lost~~ the title ~~shortly after winning it~~? On which date did ~~he lose it~~? And ~~was he stripped of the title or~~ did ~~he abandon it? Or has Barrera even never possessed the title with the fight retroactively being declared a nontitle affair and Morales being stripped of the title~~?		6. According to the WBC ratings, [[Jorge Linares]] won the WBC featherweight world title on July 21, 2007, the day of his fight with [[Oscar Larios]], which was originally meant to be an eliminator. On July 31, 2007, Linares's predecessor as WBC featherweight world champion, [[In-Jin Chi]], vacated his title. Does that mean that Linares's eliminator fight with Larios has retroactively been upgraded to a fight for the vacant WBC featherweight world title and that Chi's reign is considered to have ended on July 21, 2007 though he declared that he was vacating his title only on July 31, 2007? Or does Linares's fight with Larios remain an eliminator and Linares was appointed champion without taking part in a title fight (as was the case with [[Lennox Lewis]] and [[Ken Norton]] years ago)? On which date did Chi's reign end? And on which date did Linares's reign begin?

	7. [[~~Ricardo Lopez\|Ricardo Lopez's~~]] ~~first successor as~~ WBC ~~strawweight~~ world champion ~~was~~ [[~~Wandee Singwancha~~]]~~, who won the interim version of the title~~ on ~~August 23~~, ~~1998 and defended it on May 4~~, ~~1999. I assume Ricardo Lopez still held the full version of~~ the title at that ~~time. On February 11, 2000, Singwancha~~ lost the ~~full~~ title. On which date ~~had~~ he ~~been upgraded from interim to full champion~~?		7. After [[Marco Antonio Barrera]] had defeated then WBC featherweight world champion [[Erik Morales]] on June 22, 2002, Barrera refused to accept the title. Does that mean that Barrera lost the title shortly after winning it? On which date did he lose it? And was he stripped of the title or did he abandon it? Or has Barrera even never possessed the title with the fight retroactively being declared a nontitle affair and Morales being stripped of the title?

	8. What is the WBC's final ruling on [[Graciano Rocchigiani]] and [[Roy Jones Jr.\|Roy Jones Jr.'s]] world championship statuses during the time both of them were world champions? Rocchigiani won the vacant world title on March 21, 1998 and has to be considered WBC light heavyweight world champion until April 15, 2000 according to a verdict. Did the judgement also affect Roy Jones's world championship status during that period of time? If yes, in which way? And what was Jones's status before the beginning of his shared reign? He had announced that he would vacate his WBC world title. Has that retroactively been declared void? Has there been an interim reign or a reign as a champion in recess, if yes on which dates did these reigns begin or end?		8. [[Ricardo Lopez\|Ricardo Lopez's]] first successor as WBC strawweight world champion was [[Wandee Singwancha]], who won the interim version of the title on August 23, 1998 and defended it on May 4, 1999. I assume Ricardo Lopez still held the full version of the title at that time. On February 11, 2000, Singwancha lost the full title. On which date had he been upgraded from interim to full champion?

			9. What is the WBC's final ruling on [[Graciano Rocchigiani]] and [[Roy Jones Jr.\|Roy Jones Jr.'s]] world championship statuses during the time both of them were world champions? Rocchigiani won the vacant world title on March 21, 1998 and has to be considered WBC light heavyweight world champion until April 15, 2000 according to a verdict. Did the judgement also affect Roy Jones's world championship status during that period of time? If yes, in which way? And what was Jones's status before the beginning of his shared reign? He had announced that he would vacate his WBC world title. Has that retroactively been declared void? Has there been an interim reign or a reign as a champion in recess, if yes on which dates did these reigns begin or end?

	The list on [http://www.wbcboxing.com/WBCboxing/Portal/cfpages/contentmgr.cfm?docId=96&docTipo=4&orderby=docid&sortby=ASC this page] says Rocchigiani has only been interim champion, which might conflict with the official verdict.		The list on [http://www.wbcboxing.com/WBCboxing/Portal/cfpages/contentmgr.cfm?docId=96&docTipo=4&orderby=docid&sortby=ASC this page] says Rocchigiani has only been interim champion, which might conflict with the official verdict.

	9. Ricardo Lopez won the WBC strawweight world championship on October 25, 1990. On which date did he lose his title? Was he stripped of the title or did he abandon it?		10. Ricardo Lopez won the WBC strawweight world championship on October 25, 1990. On which date did he lose his title? Was he stripped of the title or did he abandon it?

	10. On February 12, 1971, WBA lightweight world champion [[Ken Buchanan]] won a bout against [[Ruben Navarro]] for the WBC lightweight world title. Was the WBC title vacant prior to the bout or had either Navarro or Buchanan been declared champion before the fight? If the latter is true, which of the two had been named champion and on which date?		11. On February 12, 1971, WBA lightweight world champion [[Ken Buchanan]] won a bout against [[Ruben Navarro]] for the WBC lightweight world title. Was the WBC title vacant prior to the bout or had either Navarro or Buchanan been declared champion before the fight? If the latter is true, which of the two had been named champion and on which date?

	On November 28, 1966, WBA welterweight world champion [[Curtis Cokes]] won a bout against [[Jean Josselin]] for the WBC welterweight world title. Was the WBC title vacant prior to the bout or had either Josselin or Cokes been declared champion before the fight? If the latter is true, which of the two had been named champion and on which date?		On November 28, 1966, WBA welterweight world champion [[Curtis Cokes]] won a bout against [[Jean Josselin]] for the WBC welterweight world title. Was the WBC title vacant prior to the bout or had either Josselin or Cokes been declared champion before the fight? If the latter is true, which of the two had been named champion and on which date?

	11. The following bouts pitted overweight former champions who had lost their titles on the scales against challengers who won the following fights and the titles which had been at stake for the challengers only. Are these fights considered title fights? Are the titles at stake deemed to have been vacant prior to the bouts? Had the former champions been stripped of their titles one day before their fights?		12. The following bouts pitted overweight former champions who had lost their titles on the scales against challengers who won the following fights and the titles which had been at stake for the challengers only. Are these fights considered title fights? Are the titles at stake deemed to have been vacant prior to the bouts? Had the former champions been stripped of their titles one day before their fights?

	[[Diego Corrales]] and Joel Casamayor competed for the vacant (?) WBC lightweight title (?) on October 7, 2006.		[[Diego Corrales]] and Joel Casamayor competed for the vacant (?) WBC lightweight title (?) on October 7, 2006.
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	[[Manny Pacquiao]] and [[Medgoen Singsurat]] competed for the vacant (?) WBC flyweight title (?) on September 17, 1999.		[[Manny Pacquiao]] and [[Medgoen Singsurat]] competed for the vacant (?) WBC flyweight title (?) on September 17, 1999.

	12. [http://www.wbcboxing.com/WBCboxing/Portal/download/wbc_championship_fights.pdf The WBC Championship Fights Statistics] since 1963 suggests that there were sixteen fights with the WBC heavyweight world title at stake between 1963 and 1969. Were these fights the following ones?		13. [http://www.wbcboxing.com/WBCboxing/Portal/download/wbc_championship_fights.pdf The WBC Championship Fights Statistics] since 1963 suggests that there were sixteen fights with the WBC heavyweight world title at stake between 1963 and 1969. Were these fights the following ones?

	[[Sonny Liston]] vs. [[Floyd Patterson]] on July 22, 1963		[[Sonny Liston]] vs. [[Floyd Patterson]] on July 22, 1963
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	Joe Frazier vs. [[Jerry Quarry]] on June 23, 1969		Joe Frazier vs. [[Jerry Quarry]] on June 23, 1969

	13. Before the WBC began to recognize world champions in the 1960s, the universally recognized or the WBA world champions were allowed to compete in the inaugural fights for the WBC world titles. Had those world champions been named WBC world champions before the inaugural fights for the WBC world titles took place, if yes on which dates? Or did they compete for the vacant WBC world titles? Here is a list of the inaugural world title fights in the 1960s:		14. Before the WBC began to recognize world champions in the 1960s, the universally recognized or the WBA world champions were allowed to compete in the inaugural fights for the WBC world titles. Had those world champions been named WBC world champions before the inaugural fights for the WBC world titles took place, if yes on which dates? Or did they compete for the vacant WBC world titles? Here is a list of the inaugural world title fights in the 1960s:

	Sonny Liston and Floyd Patterson competed for the vacant (?) WBC heavyweight world title on July 22, 1963.		Sonny Liston and Floyd Patterson competed for the vacant (?) WBC heavyweight world title on July 22, 1963.

Emaster: added link to WBC site, which states Rocchigiani has only been interim champion

2008-12-04T00:51:48Z

added link to WBC site, which states Rocchigiani has only been interim champion

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	8. What is the WBC's final ruling on [[Graciano Rocchigiani]] and [[Roy Jones Jr.\|Roy Jones Jr.'s]] world championship statuses during the time both of them were world champions? Rocchigiani won the vacant world title on March 21, 1998 and has to be considered WBC light heavyweight world champion until April 15, 2000 according to a verdict. Did the judgement also affect Roy Jones's world championship status during that period of time? If yes, in which way? And what was Jones's status before the beginning of his shared reign? He had announced that he would vacate his WBC world title. Has that retroactively been declared void? Has there been an interim reign or a reign as a champion in recess, if yes on which dates did these reigns begin or end?		8. What is the WBC's final ruling on [[Graciano Rocchigiani]] and [[Roy Jones Jr.\|Roy Jones Jr.'s]] world championship statuses during the time both of them were world champions? Rocchigiani won the vacant world title on March 21, 1998 and has to be considered WBC light heavyweight world champion until April 15, 2000 according to a verdict. Did the judgement also affect Roy Jones's world championship status during that period of time? If yes, in which way? And what was Jones's status before the beginning of his shared reign? He had announced that he would vacate his WBC world title. Has that retroactively been declared void? Has there been an interim reign or a reign as a champion in recess, if yes on which dates did these reigns begin or end?

			The list on [http://www.wbcboxing.com/WBCboxing/Portal/cfpages/contentmgr.cfm?docId=96&docTipo=4&orderby=docid&sortby=ASC this page] says Rocchigiani has only been interim champion, which might conflict with the official verdict.

	9. Ricardo Lopez won the WBC strawweight world championship on October 25, 1990. On which date did he lose his title? Was he stripped of the title or did he abandon it?		9. Ricardo Lopez won the WBC strawweight world championship on October 25, 1990. On which date did he lose his title? Was he stripped of the title or did he abandon it?

John: Talk:WBC moved to Talk:World Boxing Council

2008-10-26T19:46:44Z

Talk:WBC moved to Talk:World Boxing Council

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Emaster: removed answered question

2008-10-26T18:18:50Z

removed answered question

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	1. On which dates did [[Floyd Mayweather Jr.\|Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s]] WBC welterweight, [[Manny Pacquiao\|Manny Pacquiao's]] WBC super featherweight, and [[Jorge Linares\|Jorge Linares's]] WBC featherweight titles become vacant? Did the title holders relinquish their belts or were they stripped of them?		1. On which dates did [[Floyd Mayweather Jr.\|Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s]] WBC welterweight, [[Manny Pacquiao\|Manny Pacquiao's]] WBC super featherweight, and [[Jorge Linares\|Jorge Linares's]] WBC featherweight titles become vacant? Did the title holders relinquish their belts or were they stripped of them?

	2. ~~Was~~ [[~~Chad Dawson~~]] ~~stripped of his~~ WBC ~~light heavyweight~~ world title or ~~did he abandon it~~? ~~On which date did Dawson lose his~~ title~~? Was it~~ the ~~same date on which [[Adrian Diaconu]] was upgraded~~ to ~~full champion?~~		2. Does the WBC still consider the bout between [[Humberto Soto]] and [[Francisco Lorenzo]] held on June 28, 2008 a championship fight with the vacant WBC super featherweight interim world title at stake or has the recognition as a title fight retroactively been withdrawn? (Because of the NC result the title remains vacant anyway, nevertheless the match could still be deemed to be a title fight with the title remaining vacant.)

	~~'''Answer:'''~~ [[~~Chad Dawson~~]] ~~was stripped of his title on July 11, 2008 when he officially refused to sign the agreement to fight~~ [[~~Adrian Diaconu~~]] ~~after the purse bid had been won by~~ a ~~Romanian company. On the same date~~, the WBC ~~elevated Diaconu from interim to full champion.~~		3. Was the fight between [[John Ruiz]] and [[Jameel McCline]] held on March 8, 2008 a WBC heavyweight world title eliminator? If yes, for which spot in the WBC ranking?

	3. ~~Does the WBC still consider the bout between~~ [[~~Humberto Soto~~]] and [[~~Francisco Lorenzo~~]] ~~held on June 28, 2008 a championship fight with~~ the ~~vacant~~ WBC ~~super featherweight~~ interim world title ~~at stake~~ or ~~has the recognition as a title fight retroactively been withdrawn? (Because of the NC result the title remains vacant anyway~~, ~~nevertheless the match could still~~ be deemed ~~to be a~~ title ~~fight with the title remaining~~ vacant.)		4. Were [[Joel Casamayor]] and [[Samuel Peter]] declared the WBC interim world champions in their respective weight divisions without having to win a vacant title so that their fights with [[Jose Armando Santa Cruz]] on November 10, 2007 or Jameel McCline on October 6, 2007 respectively are to be deemed title defenses (not fights for vacant titles)?

	4. ~~Was~~ the fight ~~between~~ [[~~John Ruiz~~]] ~~and~~ [[~~Jameel McCline~~]] ~~held on March 8~~, ~~2008~~ a WBC ~~heavyweight~~ world title eliminator? ~~If yes, for~~ which ~~spot in the WBC ranking~~?		5. According to the WBC ratings, [[Jorge Linares]] won the WBC featherweight world title on July 21, 2007, the day of his fight with [[Oscar Larios]], which was originally meant to be an eliminator. On July 31, 2007, Linares's predecessor as WBC featherweight world champion, [[In-Jin Chi]], vacated his title. Does that mean that Linares's eliminator fight with Larios has retroactively been upgraded to a fight for the vacant WBC featherweight world title and that Chi's reign is considered to have ended on July 21, 2007 though he declared that he was vacating his title only on July 31, 2007? Or does Linares's fight with Larios remain an eliminator and Linares was appointed champion without taking part in a title fight (as was the case with [[Lennox Lewis]] and [[Ken Norton]] years ago)? On which date did Chi's reign end? And on which date did Linares's reign begin?

	5. ~~Were~~ [[~~Joel Casamayor~~]] ~~and [[Samuel Peter]] declared the~~ WBC ~~interim~~ world ~~champions in their respective weight divisions without having to win a vacant title so that their fights with~~ [[~~Jose Armando Santa Cruz~~]] on ~~November 10~~, ~~2007 or Jameel McCline on October 6~~, ~~2007 respectively are~~ to ~~be deemed~~ title ~~defenses (not fights for vacant titles)~~?		6. After [[Marco Antonio Barrera]] had defeated then WBC featherweight world champion [[Erik Morales]] on June 22, 2002, Barrera refused to accept the title. Does that mean that Barrera lost the title shortly after winning it? On which date did he lose it? And was he stripped of the title or did he abandon it? Or has Barrera even never possessed the title with the fight retroactively being declared a nontitle affair and Morales being stripped of the title?

	6. ~~According to the WBC ratings,~~ [[~~Jorge Linares]] won the WBC featherweight world title on July 21, 2007, the day of his fight with [[Oscar Larios~~]]~~, which was originally meant to be an eliminator. On July 31, 2007, Linares's predecessor~~ as WBC ~~featherweight~~ world champion, [[~~In-Jin Chi~~]], ~~vacated his~~ title. ~~Does that mean that Linares's eliminator fight with Larios has retroactively been upgraded to a fight for~~ the ~~vacant WBC featherweight world~~ title ~~and~~ that ~~Chi's reign is considered to have ended on July 21~~, ~~2007 though he declared that he was vacating his title only on July 31~~, ~~2007? Or does Linares's fight with Larios remain an eliminator and Linares was appointed champion without taking part in a~~ title ~~fight (as was the case with [[Lennox Lewis]] and [[Ken Norton]] years ago)?~~ On which date ~~did Chi's reign end? And on which date did Linares's reign begin~~?		7. [[Ricardo Lopez\|Ricardo Lopez's]] first successor as WBC strawweight world champion was [[Wandee Singwancha]], who won the interim version of the title on August 23, 1998 and defended it on May 4, 1999. I assume Ricardo Lopez still held the full version of the title at that time. On February 11, 2000, Singwancha lost the full title. On which date had he been upgraded from interim to full champion?

	7. ~~After~~ [[~~Marco Antonio Barrera~~]] ~~had defeated then WBC featherweight world champion~~ [[~~Erik Morales~~]] on ~~June 22~~, ~~2002~~, ~~Barrera refused~~ to ~~accept~~ the ~~title. Does~~ that ~~mean that Barrera lost the title shortly after winning it~~? On which ~~date did he lose it~~? And was ~~he stripped~~ of ~~the title or did~~ he ~~abandon it? Or has Barrera even never possessed the~~ title ~~with the fight~~ retroactively ~~being~~ declared a ~~nontitle affair and Morales being stripped of the title~~?		8. What is the WBC's final ruling on [[Graciano Rocchigiani]] and [[Roy Jones Jr.\|Roy Jones Jr.'s]] world championship statuses during the time both of them were world champions? Rocchigiani won the vacant world title on March 21, 1998 and has to be considered WBC light heavyweight world champion until April 15, 2000 according to a verdict. Did the judgement also affect Roy Jones's world championship status during that period of time? If yes, in which way? And what was Jones's status before the beginning of his shared reign? He had announced that he would vacate his WBC world title. Has that retroactively been declared void? Has there been an interim reign or a reign as a champion in recess, if yes on which dates did these reigns begin or end?

	8. [[Ricardo Lopez~~\|Ricardo Lopez's]] first successor as~~ WBC strawweight world ~~champion was [[Wandee Singwancha]], who won the interim version of the title on August 23, 1998 and defended it~~ on ~~May 4~~, ~~1999~~. ~~I assume Ricardo Lopez still held the full version~~ of the title ~~at that time. On February 11, 2000, Singwancha lost the full title. On which date had~~ he ~~been upgraded from interim to full champion~~?		9. Ricardo Lopez won the WBC strawweight world championship on October 25, 1990. On which date did he lose his title? Was he stripped of the title or did he abandon it?

	9. What is the WBC's final ruling on [[Graciano Rocchigiani]] and [[Roy Jones Jr.\|Roy Jones Jr.'s]] world championship statuses during the time both of them were world champions? Rocchigiani won the vacant world title on March 21, 1998 and has to be considered WBC light heavyweight world champion until April 15, 2000 according to a verdict. Did the judgement also affect Roy Jones's world championship status during that period of time? If yes, in which way? And what was Jones's status before the beginning of his shared reign? He had announced that he would vacate his WBC world title. Has that retroactively been declared void? Has there been an interim reign or a reign as a champion in recess, if yes on which dates did these reigns begin or end?		10. On February 12, 1971, WBA lightweight world champion [[Ken Buchanan]] won a bout against [[Ruben Navarro]] for the WBC lightweight world title. Was the WBC title vacant prior to the bout or had either Navarro or Buchanan been declared champion before the fight? If the latter is true, which of the two had been named champion and on which date?

	10~~. Ricardo Lopez won the WBC strawweight world championship on October 25, 1990. On which date did he lose his title? Was he stripped of the title or did he abandon it?~~

	11. On February 12, 1971, WBA lightweight world champion [[Ken Buchanan]] won a bout against [[Ruben Navarro]] for the WBC lightweight world title. Was the WBC title vacant prior to the bout or had either Navarro or Buchanan been declared champion before the fight? If the latter is true, which of the two had been named champion and on which date?

	On November 28, 1966, WBA welterweight world champion [[Curtis Cokes]] won a bout against [[Jean Josselin]] for the WBC welterweight world title. Was the WBC title vacant prior to the bout or had either Josselin or Cokes been declared champion before the fight? If the latter is true, which of the two had been named champion and on which date?		On November 28, 1966, WBA welterweight world champion [[Curtis Cokes]] won a bout against [[Jean Josselin]] for the WBC welterweight world title. Was the WBC title vacant prior to the bout or had either Josselin or Cokes been declared champion before the fight? If the latter is true, which of the two had been named champion and on which date?

	12. The following bouts pitted overweight former champions who had lost their titles on the scales against challengers who won the following fights and the titles which had been at stake for the challengers only. Are these fights considered title fights? Are the titles at stake deemed to have been vacant prior to the bouts? Had the former champions been stripped of their titles one day before their fights?		11. The following bouts pitted overweight former champions who had lost their titles on the scales against challengers who won the following fights and the titles which had been at stake for the challengers only. Are these fights considered title fights? Are the titles at stake deemed to have been vacant prior to the bouts? Had the former champions been stripped of their titles one day before their fights?

	[[Diego Corrales]] and Joel Casamayor competed for the vacant (?) WBC lightweight title (?) on October 7, 2006.		[[Diego Corrales]] and Joel Casamayor competed for the vacant (?) WBC lightweight title (?) on October 7, 2006.
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	[[Manny Pacquiao]] and [[Medgoen Singsurat]] competed for the vacant (?) WBC flyweight title (?) on September 17, 1999.		[[Manny Pacquiao]] and [[Medgoen Singsurat]] competed for the vacant (?) WBC flyweight title (?) on September 17, 1999.

	13. [http://www.wbcboxing.com/WBCboxing/Portal/download/wbc_championship_fights.pdf The WBC Championship Fights Statistics] since 1963 suggests that there were sixteen fights with the WBC heavyweight world title at stake between 1963 and 1969. Were these fights the following ones?		12. [http://www.wbcboxing.com/WBCboxing/Portal/download/wbc_championship_fights.pdf The WBC Championship Fights Statistics] since 1963 suggests that there were sixteen fights with the WBC heavyweight world title at stake between 1963 and 1969. Were these fights the following ones?

	[[Sonny Liston]] vs. [[Floyd Patterson]] on July 22, 1963		[[Sonny Liston]] vs. [[Floyd Patterson]] on July 22, 1963
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	Joe Frazier vs. [[Jerry Quarry]] on June 23, 1969		Joe Frazier vs. [[Jerry Quarry]] on June 23, 1969

	14. Before the WBC began to recognize world champions in the 1960s, the universally recognized or the WBA world champions were allowed to compete in the inaugural fights for the WBC world titles. Had those world champions been named WBC world champions before the inaugural fights for the WBC world titles took place, if yes on which dates? Or did they compete for the vacant WBC world titles? Here is a list of the inaugural world title fights in the 1960s:		13. Before the WBC began to recognize world champions in the 1960s, the universally recognized or the WBA world champions were allowed to compete in the inaugural fights for the WBC world titles. Had those world champions been named WBC world champions before the inaugural fights for the WBC world titles took place, if yes on which dates? Or did they compete for the vacant WBC world titles? Here is a list of the inaugural world title fights in the 1960s:

	Sonny Liston and Floyd Patterson competed for the vacant (?) WBC heavyweight world title on July 22, 1963.		Sonny Liston and Floyd Patterson competed for the vacant (?) WBC heavyweight world title on July 22, 1963.

Reenthelawman: Adding answer to Dawson/Diaconu question

2008-10-26T05:05:52Z

Adding answer to Dawson/Diaconu question

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	2. Was [[Chad Dawson]] stripped of his WBC light heavyweight world title or did he abandon it? On which date did Dawson lose his title? Was it the same date on which [[Adrian Diaconu]] was upgraded to full champion?		2. Was [[Chad Dawson]] stripped of his WBC light heavyweight world title or did he abandon it? On which date did Dawson lose his title? Was it the same date on which [[Adrian Diaconu]] was upgraded to full champion?

			'''Answer:''' [[Chad Dawson]] was stripped of his title on July 11, 2008 when he officially refused to sign the agreement to fight [[Adrian Diaconu]] after the purse bid had been won by a Romanian company. On the same date, the WBC elevated Diaconu from interim to full champion.

	3. Does the WBC still consider the bout between [[Humberto Soto]] and [[Francisco Lorenzo]] held on June 28, 2008 a championship fight with the vacant WBC super featherweight interim world title at stake or has the recognition as a title fight retroactively been withdrawn? (Because of the NC result the title remains vacant anyway, nevertheless the match could still be deemed to be a title fight with the title remaining vacant.)		3. Does the WBC still consider the bout between [[Humberto Soto]] and [[Francisco Lorenzo]] held on June 28, 2008 a championship fight with the vacant WBC super featherweight interim world title at stake or has the recognition as a title fight retroactively been withdrawn? (Because of the NC result the title remains vacant anyway, nevertheless the match could still be deemed to be a title fight with the title remaining vacant.)

Emaster: added questions pertaining the vacating of Manny Pacquiao's super featherweight and Jorge Linares's featherweight titles

2008-10-26T02:32:47Z

added questions pertaining the vacating of Manny Pacquiao's super featherweight and Jorge Linares's featherweight titles

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	== Catalogue of questions regarding the WBC ==		== Catalogue of questions regarding the WBC ==

	1. On which ~~date~~ did [[Floyd Mayweather Jr.\|Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s]] WBC welterweight ~~title~~ become vacant? Did ~~he abandon it~~ or ~~was he~~ stripped of it?		1. On which dates did [[Floyd Mayweather Jr.\|Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s]] WBC welterweight, [[Manny Pacquiao\|Manny Pacquiao's]] WBC super featherweight, and [[Jorge Linares\|Jorge Linares's]] WBC featherweight titles become vacant? Did the title holders relinquish their belts or were they stripped of them?

	2. Was [[Chad Dawson]] stripped of his WBC light heavyweight world title or did he abandon it? On which date did Dawson lose his title? Was it the same date on which [[Adrian Diaconu]] was upgraded to full champion?		2. Was [[Chad Dawson]] stripped of his WBC light heavyweight world title or did he abandon it? On which date did Dawson lose his title? Was it the same date on which [[Adrian Diaconu]] was upgraded to full champion?

Emaster: /* Catalogue of questions regarding the WBC */ added two links

2008-08-13T13:38:35Z

Catalogue of questions regarding the WBC: added two links

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	Some of the questions above had already been presented on the following pages:		Some of the questions above had already been presented on the following pages:
			*[http://forum.boxrec.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=84097 Fights for vacant or nonvacant world titles?]
	*[[Category talk:World Champions By Weight Class#Inconsistent treatment of inaugural title fights by BoxRec and title lineage listings]]		*[[Category talk:World Champions By Weight Class#Inconsistent treatment of inaugural title fights by BoxRec and title lineage listings]]
	*[[Talk:WBC Heavyweight Champion]]		*[[Talk:WBC Heavyweight Champion]]
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	*[[Talk:WBC Minimumweight Champion]]		*[[Talk:WBC Minimumweight Champion]]

	--[[User:Emaster\|Emaster]] 13:20, 13 August 2008 (UTC)		See also:
			*[http://forum.boxrec.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=87475 Contacting sanctioning bodies]

			--[[User:Emaster\|Emaster]] 13:38, 13 August 2008 (UTC)