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	~~I guess I do not quite understand the question~~, ~~Bert. You can't just type in an asterisk, or am I missing something more? What IS the purpose of the asterisk* anyway? --[[User:Ric\|Ric]] 20:53, 16 November 2007 (CST)~~


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	~~Bert,~~

	Thank you so much for adding the info on Harry Smith! I was mainly looking to substantiate the change I've made, as BoxRec had Jim Pettaway incorrectly listed as the 1956 AAU champ. I just added a few more facts to Harry's profile; I have results of his other bouts but this should probably be sufficient for a quick overview. He also won multiple Interservice Championships and boxed at the 1950 and 1951 AAU Championships (lost in the semis and preliminaries, respectively), for example, but I don't want to go overboard here. :)
	~~--[[User:El Intocable\|El Intocable]]~~

	~~== Max Grothe/Harry Smith of Buffalo ==~~

	~~Bert,~~

	~~I just added a bit of info on Max and Harry. Not sure if Max indeed participated in the Korean War.~~

	~~== 1937 Golden Gloves ==~~

	~~Bert,~~

	Jackie Donovan and Harry Smith won the 1937 Tournament of Champions; they both came from Buffalo, not NYC, and apparently won the local elimination tourney there. This was the first New York Tournament of Champions, when participants came from across the Eastern seaboard. Unfortunately, I do not have results of Buffalo eliminations, so I did not include Harry's Buffalo title. I think you should remove your today's changes.

	I entered Jackie Donavan to the NY (City) Golden Gloves, he won the open title, representing the Buffalo Courier Express, as Harry Smith did, these were major titles, why would you want me to remove them? Bert

	~~== 1937 Golden Gloves ==~~

	~~Bert,~~

	Right now you are calling the same tournament by two different names. They won the Tournament of Champions, not the local Golden Gloves for NY Metro. 1937 was the first year when the Tournament of Champions took place.

	~~== 1937 Golden Gloves -- Response to Your Message ==~~

	Bert, we are miscommunicating. In 1937 and 1938, regional GG tournaments took place, and then local champions entered the combined NY tournament. I feel that it is very confusing that you list two New York titles for winners of these tournaments.

	For example, Sal Bartolo won the 1937 New England Golden Gloves (outpointed Desmarais in the finals), then entered the 1937 Tournament of Champions and won it as well. His regional title is not listed, but he has 2 New York titles, as if he first won the NY Metro title, and then won the tourney of champions. There was just one New York tournament, so I feel that only one title should be listed. The same applies to Buffalo Golden Gloves champions, etc.

	~~== 1937 Golden Gloves ==~~

	~~"Totaly disagree. The NY City and Chicago City Tournaments were first, even out drew the others at times (1944)." Bert~~

	~~Bert, we are really miscommunicating. For example, for Sal Bartolo you have two lines:~~

	~~1937 won New York (City) Golden Gloves in the bantamweight division.~~
	~~1937 won New York Golden Gloves Tournament Of Champions in the bantamweight division.~~

	~~This was one and the same tournament!! Why do you give it two separate lines?~~

	~~== Joe Smallwood ==~~

	I think his hometown (Wilimington, right?) has already been changed. (See [http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=030120&cat=boxer here].) I don't know whether the recent software changes require that we wait 24 hours for the change to register. --[[User:Ric\|Ric]] 21:04, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

	~~Yes, Thanks, Bert~~

	~~== Smallwood ==~~

	~~So what's going on with the [[Joe Smallwood]] page? And why did you delete the photo? --[[User:Ric\|Ric]] 16:43, 15 June 2008 (UTC)~~

	~~==Succession boxes representing amateur titles==~~
	~~Rocky Lockridge & Jose Torres why did you remove them? [[User:Bert\|Bert]]~~

	I think the convention is that succession boxes should only be created for major professional world titles. For instance, boxes on IBO world titles and ''The Ring'' awards have been removed from boxer pages. The same should apply to amateur accomplishments.

	Of course, you could start a discussion on this on an appropriate talk page or ask JohnShep how to handle this. There's even been an exchange on the issue [[Talk:Norvel Lee\|on this page]].--[[User:Emaster\|Emaster]] 16:09, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

	~~I started a discussion [[Help talk:Contents#Content of boxer/fight pages\|on this page]], suggesting to keep the succession boxes on the pages.--[[User:Emaster\|Emaster]] 21:27, 14 August 2009 (UTC)~~

	~~Bravo! --[[User:Bert\|Bert]]<br>~~

	~~Couldn't all the Golden Gloves winners from bouts that were were held in Chicago IL be combined, weather Tribune sponsored or held under other sponsors names ?~~
	~~Maybe just listed as Chicago Golden Gloves? The main thing is that there is a list of Golden Glove Champions from the tournaments.~~
	~~Plenty of people walking around claiming to be GG Champs that have never even been to a live boxing event.~~
	~~Also, I started this Category and put it together by trial & error, need assistance starting a Category for - Wisconsin Golden Gloves. thanks.~~
	~~--[[User:Red]]~~

	~~== Contact ==~~

	~~Bert, do you have access to the editor forum ? http://boxrec.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=2~~

	~~== Golden Gloves ==~~

	~~Hi Bert,~~
	~~please post what you are doing here http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=114569 and hopefully we will get this sorted out soon :-)~~

	~~== Norman Smith ==~~
	~~Bert, the page you made for Norman was a New Page when he already had a page. I entered the text in THAT Wike~~
	~~I assume that is was you wanted done? Red~~

	~~== [[Edwin Kolb]] ==~~
	~~Bert, you didn't mention what weight class Kolb won his amateur titles in.--[[User:Matt Tegen\|Matt Tegen]] 00:27, 20 February 2010 (UTC)~~

	~~== Title boxes ==~~
	Bert, can you put the title boxes as the bottom of the article below the body of text, but above the categories. This is how a lot of the earlier articles were handled, and is similar to what Wikipedia does with politicians, for example. I think it looks much better as well.--[[User:Matt\|Matt]] 03:17, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
	~~==Bob Baker changes needed==~~
	~~http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Bob_Baker where it says lost to colley wallace, it must say lost very close controversial decision.~~

	~~http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Tommy_Jackson_vs._Bob_Baker_%281st_meeting%29 <br>~~
	~~Archie Moore was returned to the rankings as light heavyweight champion by the NBA, however The Ring magazine still considered him the light heavyweight champion.<BR>~~
	~~This is wrong, it should say ring magazine still considered moore #1 heavyweight contender!~~
	~~: so bert, u want mistakes to linger?~~

Most: y r u not fixing mistakes

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y r u not fixing mistakes

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	This is wrong, it should say ring magazine still considered moore #1 heavyweight contender!		This is wrong, it should say ring magazine still considered moore #1 heavyweight contender!
			: so bert, u want mistakes to linger?

Most at 01:43, 30 July 2013

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	http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Tommy_Jackson_vs._Bob_Baker_%281st_meeting%29 <br>		http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Tommy_Jackson_vs._Bob_Baker_%281st_meeting%29 <br>
	Archie Moore was returned to the rankings as light heavyweight champion by the NBA, however The Ring magazine still considered him the light heavyweight champion. <BR>		Archie Moore was returned to the rankings as light heavyweight champion by the NBA, however The Ring magazine still considered him the light heavyweight champion.<BR>
	~~this~~ is wrong, it should say ring magazine still considered ~~more heavyweight~~ #1 contender!		This is wrong, it should say ring magazine still considered moore #1 heavyweight contender!

Most: mistakes by bad editors

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mistakes by bad editors

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	Bert, can you put the title boxes as the bottom of the article below the body of text, but above the categories. This is how a lot of the earlier articles were handled, and is similar to what Wikipedia does with politicians, for example. I think it looks much better as well.--[[User:Matt\|Matt]] 03:17, 27 May 2010 (UTC)		Bert, can you put the title boxes as the bottom of the article below the body of text, but above the categories. This is how a lot of the earlier articles were handled, and is similar to what Wikipedia does with politicians, for example. I think it looks much better as well.--[[User:Matt\|Matt]] 03:17, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
			==Bob Baker changes needed==
			http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Bob_Baker where it says lost to colley wallace, it must say lost very close controversial decision.

			http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Tommy_Jackson_vs._Bob_Baker_%281st_meeting%29 <br>
			Archie Moore was returned to the rankings as light heavyweight champion by the NBA, however The Ring magazine still considered him the light heavyweight champion. <BR>
			this is wrong, it should say ring magazine still considered more heavyweight #1 contender!

Emaster: cleanup: added text from my talk page to section it refers to/removed issue which has also been presented in this thread: http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=146231

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cleanup: added text from my talk page to section it refers to/removed issue which has also been presented in this thread: http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=146231

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	So what's going on with the [[Joe Smallwood]] page? And why did you delete the photo? --[[User:Ric\|Ric]] 16:43, 15 June 2008 (UTC)		So what's going on with the [[Joe Smallwood]] page? And why did you delete the photo? --[[User:Ric\|Ric]] 16:43, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

	~~==Sedg(e)wick Harvey==~~
	~~Are you sure [[Sedgewick Harvey\|Harvey's]] first name is spelt Sedgewick? The BoxRec name still reads Sedgwick.--[[User:Emaster\|Emaster]] 20:02, 26 January 2009 (UTC)~~

	As the encyclopaedia should match the database and the latter is wrong according to the tournament records, I'm going to request an adaptation of the spelling in BoxRec. Do you have a link to at least one of your sources? (Without a source the BoxRec editors can't do anything.)--[[User:Emaster\|Emaster]] 00:08, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

	~~The "e" in question has been added to the BoxRec name so that it now matches the encyclopaedia.--[[User:Emaster\|Emaster]] 00:28, 13 February 2009 (UTC)~~

	==Succession boxes representing amateur titles==		==Succession boxes representing amateur titles==
	~~(response to~~ [[User ~~talk~~:~~Emaster#Succession Boxes~~\|~~this text~~]])		Rocky Lockridge & Jose Torres why did you remove them? [[User:Bert\|Bert]]

	I think the convention is that succession boxes should only be created for major professional world titles. For instance, boxes on IBO world titles and ''The Ring'' awards have been removed from boxer pages. The same should apply to amateur accomplishments.		I think the convention is that succession boxes should only be created for major professional world titles. For instance, boxes on IBO world titles and ''The Ring'' awards have been removed from boxer pages. The same should apply to amateur accomplishments.

Ric: Reverted edits by Lori2 (talk) to last revision by Matt

2012-01-01T02:56:17Z

Reverted edits by Lori2 (talk) to last revision by Matt

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	I guess I do not quite understand the question, Bert. You can't just type in an asterisk, or am I missing something ~~m<S>ore~~? What IS the purpose of the asterisk* anyway? --[[User:Ric\|Ric]] 20:53, 16 November 2007 (CST)		I guess I do not quite understand the question, Bert. You can't just type in an asterisk, or am I missing something more? What IS the purpose of the asterisk* anyway? --[[User:Ric\|Ric]] 20:53, 16 November 2007 (CST)

Lori2: enjoy it stays lolhttp://encyclopediasupreme.org/Baker2356.txt eat this lol suk it it stays!die!

2012-01-01T02:49:52Z

enjoy it stays lolhttp://encyclopediasupreme.org/Baker2356.txt eat this lol suk it it stays!die!

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	I guess I do not quite understand the question, Bert. You can't just type in an asterisk, or am I missing something ~~more~~? What IS the purpose of the asterisk* anyway? --[[User:Ric\|Ric]] 20:53, 16 November 2007 (CST)		I guess I do not quite understand the question, Bert. You can't just type in an asterisk, or am I missing something m<S>ore? What IS the purpose of the asterisk* anyway? --[[User:Ric\|Ric]] 20:53, 16 November 2007 (CST)

Matt at 03:17, 27 May 2010

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	== [[Edwin Kolb]] ==		== [[Edwin Kolb]] ==
	Bert, you didn't mention what weight class Kolb won his amateur titles in.--[[User:Matt Tegen\|Matt Tegen]] 00:27, 20 February 2010 (UTC)		Bert, you didn't mention what weight class Kolb won his amateur titles in.--[[User:Matt Tegen\|Matt Tegen]] 00:27, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

			== Title boxes ==
			Bert, can you put the title boxes as the bottom of the article below the body of text, but above the categories. This is how a lot of the earlier articles were handled, and is similar to what Wikipedia does with politicians, for example. I think it looks much better as well.--[[User:Matt\|Matt]] 03:17, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Matt at 00:27, 20 February 2010

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	Bert, the page you made for Norman was a New Page when he already had a page. I entered the text in THAT Wike		Bert, the page you made for Norman was a New Page when he already had a page. I entered the text in THAT Wike
	I assume that is was you wanted done? Red		I assume that is was you wanted done? Red

			== [[Edwin Kolb]] ==
			Bert, you didn't mention what weight class Kolb won his amateur titles in.--[[User:Matt Tegen\|Matt Tegen]] 00:27, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Red: Norman Smith

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Norman Smith

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	Hi Bert,		Hi Bert,
	please post what you are doing here http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=114569 and hopefully we will get this sorted out soon :-)		please post what you are doing here http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=114569 and hopefully we will get this sorted out soon :-)

			== Norman Smith ==
			Bert, the page you made for Norman was a New Page when he already had a page. I entered the text in THAT Wike
			I assume that is was you wanted done? Red