User talk:Brizel - Revision history

Matt at 23:22, 25 April 2010

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	Brizel, you do understand that this is not a boxing magazine, newspaper, or fan Web site, but a boxing encyclopedia. As such, descriptions of fights should be objective and to the point; they should not contain your personal opinions of the boxers' performances, or other subjective text. I and other Editors have reminded you of this time and again, but you still refuse to abide by our guidelines, as your recent fight page entries show. Perhaps if you lose your contributing privileges for a few months, you'll comply. I appreciate your enthusiasm, but your refusal to stop writing bout descriptions that read like an opinionated newspaper article is irksome.--[[User:Ric\|Ric]] 01:21, 18 December 2009 (UTC)		Brizel, you do understand that this is not a boxing magazine, newspaper, or fan Web site, but a boxing encyclopedia. As such, descriptions of fights should be objective and to the point; they should not contain your personal opinions of the boxers' performances, or other subjective text. I and other Editors have reminded you of this time and again, but you still refuse to abide by our guidelines, as your recent fight page entries show. Perhaps if you lose your contributing privileges for a few months, you'll comply. I appreciate your enthusiasm, but your refusal to stop writing bout descriptions that read like an opinionated newspaper article is irksome.--[[User:Ric\|Ric]] 01:21, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

			== Adamek vs. Arreola ==
			Come on Brizel, stop with the subjectivity. Calling the Klitschkos and Haye paper champions? If you want to command respect from others, why do you stoop to that?--[[User:Matt Tegen\|Matt Tegen]] 23:22, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Ric: /* You Still Don't Get It */ new section

2009-12-18T01:21:45Z

You Still Don't Get It: new section

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	If you're trying to be neutral, try a bit harder. I don't think the description of the above mentioned fight (and many more for that matter) is up to encyclopaedic standards.--[[User:Wouter\|Wouter]] 11:36, 25 October 2009 (UTC) Hi. I'll try. You don't have an email, so I'm answering you here. Sincerely, Brizel.		If you're trying to be neutral, try a bit harder. I don't think the description of the above mentioned fight (and many more for that matter) is up to encyclopaedic standards.--[[User:Wouter\|Wouter]] 11:36, 25 October 2009 (UTC) Hi. I'll try. You don't have an email, so I'm answering you here. Sincerely, Brizel.

			== You Still Don't Get It ==

			Brizel, you do understand that this is not a boxing magazine, newspaper, or fan Web site, but a boxing encyclopedia. As such, descriptions of fights should be objective and to the point; they should not contain your personal opinions of the boxers' performances, or other subjective text. I and other Editors have reminded you of this time and again, but you still refuse to abide by our guidelines, as your recent fight page entries show. Perhaps if you lose your contributing privileges for a few months, you'll comply. I appreciate your enthusiasm, but your refusal to stop writing bout descriptions that read like an opinionated newspaper article is irksome.--[[User:Ric\|Ric]] 01:21, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Brizel: /* Botha vs. Carrion */

2009-10-25T16:05:47Z

Botha vs. Carrion

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	== Botha vs. Carrion ==		== Botha vs. Carrion ==

	If you're trying to be neutral, try a bit harder. I don't think the description of the above mentioned fight (and many more for that matter) is up to encyclopaedic standards.--[[User:Wouter\|Wouter]] 11:36, 25 October 2009 (UTC)		If you're trying to be neutral, try a bit harder. I don't think the description of the above mentioned fight (and many more for that matter) is up to encyclopaedic standards.--[[User:Wouter\|Wouter]] 11:36, 25 October 2009 (UTC) Hi. I'll try. You don't have an email, so I'm answering you here. Sincerely, Brizel.

Wouter: /* Botha vs. Carrion */ new section

2009-10-25T11:36:17Z

Botha vs. Carrion: new section

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	== Deletions ==		== Deletions ==
	Is there a reason that all the information previously saved on the Erislandy Lara bout and others was deleted so that you could add your bout summary? I am all for a collective effort in getting as much information out there as possible, but if you do choose to add something to a page that already exists and had data, there is no reason to delete out all the information that was previously there. --[[User:Sweetscientist\|Sweetscientist]] 16:13, 3 May 2009 (UTC)		Is there a reason that all the information previously saved on the Erislandy Lara bout and others was deleted so that you could add your bout summary? I am all for a collective effort in getting as much information out there as possible, but if you do choose to add something to a page that already exists and had data, there is no reason to delete out all the information that was previously there. --[[User:Sweetscientist\|Sweetscientist]] 16:13, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

			== Botha vs. Carrion ==

			If you're trying to be neutral, try a bit harder. I don't think the description of the above mentioned fight (and many more for that matter) is up to encyclopaedic standards.--[[User:Wouter\|Wouter]] 11:36, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Sweetscientist at 16:13, 3 May 2009

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	You were temporarily banned, until recently, because you refused to listen to, or respond to, criticism that your writing resembled more of a subjective short-story piece than an objective encyclopedia entry. The wiki here is a boxing encyclopedia, not a prose publication. Plus you always state the obvious: it's a 10-rounder; the venue, etc--all stuff that is obvious. Your most recent entry [[Fight:1344243\|here]] demonstrates all that is "wrong" about your entries. When people have mentioned this to you in the past, you ignored them. (Do you not know how to respond to a message to your user page?) If this bad writing continues, you may be banned permanently.--[[User:Ric\|Ric]] 05:08, 1 April 2009 (UTC)		You were temporarily banned, until recently, because you refused to listen to, or respond to, criticism that your writing resembled more of a subjective short-story piece than an objective encyclopedia entry. The wiki here is a boxing encyclopedia, not a prose publication. Plus you always state the obvious: it's a 10-rounder; the venue, etc--all stuff that is obvious. Your most recent entry [[Fight:1344243\|here]] demonstrates all that is "wrong" about your entries. When people have mentioned this to you in the past, you ignored them. (Do you not know how to respond to a message to your user page?) If this bad writing continues, you may be banned permanently.--[[User:Ric\|Ric]] 05:08, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

			== Deletions ==
			Is there a reason that all the information previously saved on the Erislandy Lara bout and others was deleted so that you could add your bout summary? I am all for a collective effort in getting as much information out there as possible, but if you do choose to add something to a page that already exists and had data, there is no reason to delete out all the information that was previously there. --[[User:Sweetscientist\|Sweetscientist]] 16:13, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Ric: /* You Are Doing It Again */ new section

2009-04-01T05:08:03Z

You Are Doing It Again: new section

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	Brizel, I tried working with you, but it appears you refuse to understand the clear guidelines of the encyclopedia. I know I'm not an editor, and, as such, am quite prepared to have the pages I create be edited heavily (and even deleted) but your subjective edits are getting ridiculous. Please stop. We all devote a lot of time to the site, and its quite discouraging to have you ruin our efforts.--[[User:Reenthelawman\|Reenthelawman]] 22:05, 25 October 2008 (UTC)		Brizel, I tried working with you, but it appears you refuse to understand the clear guidelines of the encyclopedia. I know I'm not an editor, and, as such, am quite prepared to have the pages I create be edited heavily (and even deleted) but your subjective edits are getting ridiculous. Please stop. We all devote a lot of time to the site, and its quite discouraging to have you ruin our efforts.--[[User:Reenthelawman\|Reenthelawman]] 22:05, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

			== You Are Doing It Again ==

			You were temporarily banned, until recently, because you refused to listen to, or respond to, criticism that your writing resembled more of a subjective short-story piece than an objective encyclopedia entry. The wiki here is a boxing encyclopedia, not a prose publication. Plus you always state the obvious: it's a 10-rounder; the venue, etc--all stuff that is obvious. Your most recent entry [[Fight:1344243\|here]] demonstrates all that is "wrong" about your entries. When people have mentioned this to you in the past, you ignored them. (Do you not know how to respond to a message to your user page?) If this bad writing continues, you may be banned permanently.--[[User:Ric\|Ric]] 05:08, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Reenthelawman: adding Bute vs. Andrade section

2008-10-25T22:05:35Z

adding Bute vs. Andrade section

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	Judging by Rubio's winning performance at ringside, Pavlik would not have had an easier time of it on this fight card fighting the game Rubio instead of Bernard Hopkins.--[[User:Wouter\|Wouter]] 13:52, 19 October 2008 (UTC)		Judging by Rubio's winning performance at ringside, Pavlik would not have had an easier time of it on this fight card fighting the game Rubio instead of Bernard Hopkins.--[[User:Wouter\|Wouter]] 13:52, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

			== Bute vs. Andrade ==

			Brizel, I tried working with you, but it appears you refuse to understand the clear guidelines of the encyclopedia. I know I'm not an editor, and, as such, am quite prepared to have the pages I create be edited heavily (and even deleted) but your subjective edits are getting ridiculous. Please stop. We all devote a lot of time to the site, and its quite discouraging to have you ruin our efforts.--[[User:Reenthelawman\|Reenthelawman]] 22:05, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Wouter: /* Rubio vs. Ornelas comment */ new section

2008-10-19T13:52:57Z

Rubio vs. Ornelas comment: new section

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	== Joel Julio vs Jose Varela ==		== Joel Julio vs Jose Varela ==
	You write: " To his credit, Varela was game, and kept getting up, but he looked like a 'bouncing ball' that was simply taken a beating." This is subjective text and is not acceptable for an encyclopedia. Quit lowering the quality of the work you provide to this site, and stop adding this sort of drivel. Please respond as several editors are tiring of your behavior.--[[User:Matt Tegen\|Matt Tegen]] 06:05, 16 August 2008 (UTC)		You write: " To his credit, Varela was game, and kept getting up, but he looked like a 'bouncing ball' that was simply taken a beating." This is subjective text and is not acceptable for an encyclopedia. Quit lowering the quality of the work you provide to this site, and stop adding this sort of drivel. Please respond as several editors are tiring of your behavior.--[[User:Matt Tegen\|Matt Tegen]] 06:05, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

			== Rubio vs. Ornelas comment ==

			If this isn't opinionated, nothing is:

			Judging by Rubio's winning performance at ringside, Pavlik would not have had an easier time of it on this fight card fighting the game Rubio instead of Bernard Hopkins.--[[User:Wouter\|Wouter]] 13:52, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Matt at 06:05, 16 August 2008

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	I apologize for removing your edits (I've never done that before), but I don't understand why you deleted all of the factual information I had inserted (titles in play, defenses, etc.) and replaced it with subjective analysis.--[[User:Reenthelawman\|Reenthelawman]] 03:48, 2 August 2008 (UTC)		I apologize for removing your edits (I've never done that before), but I don't understand why you deleted all of the factual information I had inserted (titles in play, defenses, etc.) and replaced it with subjective analysis.--[[User:Reenthelawman\|Reenthelawman]] 03:48, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

			== Joel Julio vs Jose Varela ==
			You write: " To his credit, Varela was game, and kept getting up, but he looked like a 'bouncing ball' that was simply taken a beating." This is subjective text and is not acceptable for an encyclopedia. Quit lowering the quality of the work you provide to this site, and stop adding this sort of drivel. Please respond as several editors are tiring of your behavior.--[[User:Matt Tegen\|Matt Tegen]] 06:05, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Reenthelawman at 03:48, 2 August 2008

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	The edits you made to the [[Tye Fields vs. Monte Barrett]] seem somewhat unnecessary. Many border on the subjective, and you have been warned about this so many times that it is becoming tiresome. Also, you state the obvious when restating a fighter's record and who he has fought in the past. Finally, you still trying to get the hang of using the "Show preview" button, so that you do not have to make incremental minor edits every other minute? We appreciate your desire to contribute, but--once again--watch out for subjective text and stating the obvious. And try using that "Show Preview" button before saving every minor edit. --[[User:Ric\|Ric]] 20:47, 29 June 2008 (UTC)		The edits you made to the [[Tye Fields vs. Monte Barrett]] seem somewhat unnecessary. Many border on the subjective, and you have been warned about this so many times that it is becoming tiresome. Also, you state the obvious when restating a fighter's record and who he has fought in the past. Finally, you still trying to get the hang of using the "Show preview" button, so that you do not have to make incremental minor edits every other minute? We appreciate your desire to contribute, but--once again--watch out for subjective text and stating the obvious. And try using that "Show Preview" button before saving every minor edit. --[[User:Ric\|Ric]] 20:47, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

			==Demers vs. Miranda==

			I apologize for removing your edits (I've never done that before), but I don't understand why you deleted all of the factual information I had inserted (titles in play, defenses, etc.) and replaced it with subjective analysis.--[[User:Reenthelawman\|Reenthelawman]] 03:48, 2 August 2008 (UTC)