Frankly Speaking

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 18 Dec 2007, 09:49

This is interesting...

http://www.allegedly.tv/drill/News/Ar ... er-07.html

Khaosai-Galaxy · Post by **Khaosai-Galaxy** » 18 Dec 2007, 10:10

The booing of the US National Anthem was awful – it’s one of the reasons that I rarely have the anthems played at my shows.

Quite right Fwank, why do so many promoters insist on playing it, leaving the boxers standing there getting cold?

TerribleTerry · Post by **TerribleTerry** » 18 Dec 2007, 10:22

Warren’s bitter invective is just so hard to read – I cant bring myself to wade through yet another negative article, fuelled by jealousy.

Essentially he would like to see Billy Graham out of the way because he could once again try to woo Ricky, free from Graham’s influence.

Graham and Warren don’t get along – Billy helped some of his fighters negotiate with Warren over purses and Big Frank didn’t take kindly to his interference. It all came to a head with Graham putting the phone down on allegedly, allegedly.

I wish Warren would concentrate on promoting and writing about his own stable instead of trying to run down everyone else in boxing. Its sad he cant fill his day any other way.

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 18 Dec 2007, 10:24

Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:
The booing of the US National Anthem was awful – it’s one of the reasons that I rarely have the anthems played at my shows.

Quite right Fwank, why do so many promoters insist on playing it, leaving the boxers standing there getting cold?

Indeed... you dont see it at his big promotions like Calzaghe Manfredo, or calzaghe Kessler... oh, wait.

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 18 Dec 2007, 10:29

Exactly, I don't know what he's talking about. Regrettably I was at Calzaghe-Manfredo and the Welsh booed through the Yanks anthem just as much as the Mancs did in Vegas.

thepocketrocket · Post by **thepocketrocket** » 18 Dec 2007, 10:33

johnswan1 wrote:Exactly, I don't know what he's talking about. Regrettably I was at Calzaghe-Manfredo and the Welsh booed through the Yanks anthem just as much as the Mancs did in Vegas.

But Joe and his fans are beyond reproach

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 18 Dec 2007, 10:37

TerribleTerry wrote:Warren’s bitter invective is just so hard to read – I cant bring myself to wade through yet another negative article, fuelled by jealousy.

Essentially he would like to see Billy Graham out of the way because he could once again try to woo Ricky, free from Graham’s influence.

Graham and Warren don’t get along – Billy helped some of his fighters negotiate with Warren over purses and Big Frank didn’t take kindly to his interference. It all came to a head with Graham putting the phone down on allegedly, allegedly.

I wish Warren would concentrate on promoting and writing about his own stable instead of trying to run down everyone else in boxing. Its sad he cant fill his day any other way.

yeah that's just it.

we know it's personal from warren.

team hatton had little chance than to take this fight at welterweight.

floyd weren't coming back down for it.

watching the fight i don't think it would have made a blind bit of difference.

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 18 Dec 2007, 10:39

thepocketrocket wrote:
johnswan1 wrote:Exactly, I don't know what he's talking about. Regrettably I was at Calzaghe-Manfredo and the Welsh booed through the Yanks anthem just as much as the Mancs did in Vegas.
Bit Joe and his fans are beyond reproach

not a single mention from warren after that was there.

the bastard is always right and everyone else is wrong.

hate people like that tbh.

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 18 Dec 2007, 10:43

johnswan1 wrote:Exactly, I don't know what he's talking about. Regrettably I was at Calzaghe-Manfredo and the Welsh booed through the Yanks anthem just as much as the Mancs did in Vegas.

Ha ha... wonder what % of the crowd were welsh, less than 25% I'd wager. In vegas I'll bet less than 15% were mancs. The Welsh and Mancs may have booed, but so did the rest of the UK fan base on both occassions.

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 18 Dec 2007, 10:45

Wales wrote:
johnswan1 wrote:Exactly, I don't know what he's talking about. Regrettably I was at Calzaghe-Manfredo and the Welsh booed through the Yanks anthem just as much as the Mancs did in Vegas.
Ha ha... wonder what % of the crowd were welsh, less than 25% I'd wager. In vegas I'll bet less than 15% were mancs. The Welsh and Mancs may have booed, but so did the rest of the UK fan base on both occassions.

Maybe, but every cretin around me was more than capable of shrieking out the Welsh anthem.

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 18 Dec 2007, 10:59

You must've been in the sheep seats.

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 18 Dec 2007, 11:01

Wales wrote:You must've been in the sheep seats.

I was, it was the worst seat I've ever had at a fight and the last time I'll go to watch one in a stadium.

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 18 Dec 2007, 11:02

There was a joke there, but its gone.

I was in the Cheap seats, terrible wasnt it... I dont think the big screen was on either.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 18 Dec 2007, 11:05

Except for the Billy Graham part, theres no bitterness about his thoughts on the fight.

Telling Hatton to forget about defence and then Kayes thinking that getting fat Is good for his mentality does raise questions though.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 18 Dec 2007, 11:45

Ant Evans wrote:The Fwankly Speaking column is a weekly disaster for the sport of boxing. Read that, and you get the impression top quality fights and fighters are utter shit, unless they sign with SN in which case they are awesome.

What’s hilarious is Frank has been the “go to” boy to get “boxing’s” reaction to the UFC’s rise in the UK. But no-one at the UFC slags boxing or boxer’s off... meanwhile each week Fwank rips every other promoter and fighter outside of SN apart and tells a massive readership just how shit all the best fighters and fights are!

In a nutshell....

jomothepure · Post by **jomothepure** » 18 Dec 2007, 12:11

Hatton has two choices now - retire, or fight on

My God Frank's insight is brilliant. Why didn't I think of this?

chesh · Post by **chesh** » 18 Dec 2007, 12:29

This column appeared in last Saturday's Sun. Is this where the Hatton/Graham split rumour started?

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 18 Dec 2007, 12:31

chesh wrote:This column appeared in last Saturday's Sun. Is this where the Hatton/Graham split rumour started?

yeah that or spud and his whispers.

f*ck it let's blame spud.

oliverfennell · Post by **oliverfennell** » 19 Dec 2007, 09:16

This bit made me laugh

Having cash in the bank is one thing, but what kind of legacy will Hatton leave the sport with?

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 19 Dec 2007, 09:23

oliverfennell wrote:This bit made me laugh

Having cash in the bank is one thing, but what kind of legacy will Hatton leave the sport with?

I know. The gall is high quality. I'm sure FW would allegedly have turned down £17million and fought Witter at 140 to help his 'legacy'.

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 19 Dec 2007, 09:25

Ant Evans wrote:The Fwankly Speaking column is a weekly disaster for the sport of boxing. Read that, and you get the impression top quality fights and fighters are utter shit, unless they sign with SN in which case they are awesome.

Couldn't agree more. This will be the single biggest read boxing text in the UK. And what is it? A free platform for a promoter allowed to openly air incredibly subjective views - with the general public, unlike us, not being in a position to offer any balance. An absolute disaster.

Twinkle Toes · Post by **Twinkle Toes** » 19 Dec 2007, 09:39

Does Frank actually write that garbage, or is one of his peons doing it for him?

Goz · Post by **Goz** » 19 Dec 2007, 09:43

Ant Evans wrote:The Fwankly Speaking column is a weekly disaster for the sport of boxing. Read that, and you get the impression top quality fights and fighters are utter shit, unless they sign with SN in which case they are awesome.

Spot on Ant.

oliverfennell · Post by **oliverfennell** » 19 Dec 2007, 10:05

Ant Evans wrote:But no-one at the UFC slags boxing or boxer’s off...

Um, Dana White?

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 19 Dec 2007, 10:19

I'm not a fan of UFC.

However, I've never heard Dana White say anything derogatory about boxing other than to suggest it has lost its way promotionally.

Which is, was, is, was....erm, not sure....either it was, is...bang on.