The Decision Only You Saw...

[Goodnight, Irene]

Recently someone was telling me about a fight they saw where they were the only one they knew who scored it for fighter B, & that they felt they must be going crazy because they were quite sure of themselves, but no one --- from the officials at ringside, to other fight fans, to even the losing fighter --- agreed.

Most of us that have been around boxing for a while have been in that situation at least once --- where you felt that no one saw what you seemed to. What are some of those fights where not the judges or the fans agreed with your scoring?

I remember back in 2002 I had Mosley winning the rematch with Forrest. Now, mind you, I haven't seen that fight since, so I won't cling too strongly to that now, nor do I remember my scorecard. I just remember fighting an uphill battle on a forum with all the other members. Me & my loopey scorecard against the world ;)

Any similar stories from past fights?

[dagosd2000]

I know a lot of people think Meldrick Taylor got robbed of a decision win with Chavez when Steele stopped the fight with seconds left.(Taylor was ahead on the score cards) But I thought Chavez was breaking him downstairs pretty good. Taylor looked horrible after the stoppage and was never the same fighter again.

Hey,this is a good example for my post about fighters never being the same after their first loss. I could have used this fight as an example.

[Jaclem]

..dagos...exactly as i had it scored, as i saw the fight and agreed...taylor got so badly damaged he never recovered his form.

[dempseyfire]

Recently someone was telling me about a fight they saw where they were the only one they knew who scored it for fighter B, & that they felt they must be going crazy because they were quite sure of themselves, but no one --- from the officials at ringside, to other fight fans, to even the losing fighter --- agreed.

Most of us that have been around boxing for a while have been in that situation at least once --- where you felt that no one saw what you seemed to. What are some of those fights where not the judges or the fans agreed with your scoring?

I remember back in 2002 I had Mosley winning the rematch with Forrest. Now, mind you, I haven't seen that fight since, so I won't cling too strongly to that now, nor do I remember my scorecard. I just remember fighting an uphill battle on a forum with all the other members. Me & my loopey scorecard against the world ;)

Any similar stories from past fights?

I remember at the time I thought Lovemore N'dou outpointed Cotto when they fought. Haven't seen the fight since so I won't hold to that stance too strongly until I rewatch it, but it was definetely MUCH closer than what the incredibly biased Lederman and HBO were saying it was.

[ringsider]

I know a lot of people think Meldrick Taylor got robbed of a decision win with Chavez when Steele stopped the fight with seconds left.(Taylor was ahead on the score cards) But I thought Chavez was breaking him downstairs pretty good. Taylor looked horrible after the stoppage and was never the same fighter again.

Hey,this is a good example for my post about fighters never being the same after their first loss. I could have used this fight as an example.

Chavez beat ther shit out of Taylor, it was a merciful stoppage.

[Seamus]

The scoring in Chavez v Taylor was ridiculous. Had Steele not stopped the fight, the judges would automatically have scored the last round 10-8 for Chavez and that would have given Taylor a split decision victory. That fight was much closer, and Chavez was landing consistently in the second half.

[oliverfennell]

Recently someone was telling me about a fight they saw where they were the only one they knew who scored it for fighter B, & that they felt they must be going crazy because they were quite sure of themselves, but no one --- from the officials at ringside, to other fight fans, to even the losing fighter --- agreed.

Most of us that have been around boxing for a while have been in that situation at least once --- where you felt that no one saw what you seemed to. What are some of those fights where not the judges or the fans agreed with your scoring?

I remember back in 2002 I had Mosley winning the rematch with Forrest. Now, mind you, I haven't seen that fight since, so I won't cling too strongly to that now, nor do I remember my scorecard. I just remember fighting an uphill battle on a forum with all the other members. Me & my loopey scorecard against the world ;)

Any similar stories from past fights?

These immediately come to mind: I had Mosley over Forrest in the rematch, Forrest over Mayorga in the rematch, Barrera over Pacquiao in the rematch, Audley Harrison over Danny Williams in the first fight and Sprott over Skelton in the rematch. There's probably some others too.

[dempseyfire]

Recently someone was telling me about a fight they saw where they were the only one they knew who scored it for fighter B, & that they felt they must be going crazy because they were quite sure of themselves, but no one --- from the officials at ringside, to other fight fans, to even the losing fighter --- agreed.

Most of us that have been around boxing for a while have been in that situation at least once --- where you felt that no one saw what you seemed to. What are some of those fights where not the judges or the fans agreed with your scoring?

I remember back in 2002 I had Mosley winning the rematch with Forrest. Now, mind you, I haven't seen that fight since, so I won't cling too strongly to that now, nor do I remember my scorecard. I just remember fighting an uphill battle on a forum with all the other members. Me & my loopey scorecard against the world ;)

Any similar stories from past fights?

These immediately come to mind: I had Mosley over Forrest in the rematch, Forrest over Mayorga in the rematch, Barrera over Pacquiao in the rematch, Audley Harrison over Danny Williams in the first fight and Sprott over Skelton in the rematch. There's probably some others too.

I also have Forrest over Mayorga in their rematch.

But Barrera over Pacquiao??? Huh????

[Seamus]

I had Rocky Lockridge over Chavez by 2. Cubanito Perez (remember him ?) over Hector Camacho also by 2 I think. Terry McGroom over James Toney by 2. AND I thought Holyfield beat Lennox Lewis in the rematch by 2, after I had Lewis winning the first bout by 2.

Never understood why so few people in the media had no problem with the scoring in Larry Holmes v Carl "The Truth" Williams. I had the Truth a clear 4 pt winner after he swept the first 6. Watched it with my buddy and he agreed, and a guy on the bus next morning said Williams was robbed, but the papers, magazines, tv etc said almost nothing.

[oliverfennell]

Recently someone was telling me about a fight they saw where they were the only one they knew who scored it for fighter B, & that they felt they must be going crazy because they were quite sure of themselves, but no one --- from the officials at ringside, to other fight fans, to even the losing fighter --- agreed.

Most of us that have been around boxing for a while have been in that situation at least once --- where you felt that no one saw what you seemed to. What are some of those fights where not the judges or the fans agreed with your scoring?

I remember back in 2002 I had Mosley winning the rematch with Forrest. Now, mind you, I haven't seen that fight since, so I won't cling too strongly to that now, nor do I remember my scorecard. I just remember fighting an uphill battle on a forum with all the other members. Me & my loopey scorecard against the world ;)

Any similar stories from past fights?

These immediately come to mind: I had Mosley over Forrest in the rematch, Forrest over Mayorga in the rematch, Barrera over Pacquiao in the rematch, Audley Harrison over Danny Williams in the first fight and Sprott over Skelton in the rematch. There's probably some others too.

I also have Forrest over Mayorga in their rematch.

But Barrera over Pacquiao??? Huh????

I thought Barrera was comfortably outboxing Manny early and built enough of a lead to get it by a couple of points.

But maybe somebody slipped some crack into my tea because all anybody ever talked about afterwards was Pacquaio's clear win.

As the thread says, it was a decision only I saw.

[JCS]

These immediately come to mind: I had Mosley over Forrest in the rematch, Forrest over Mayorga in the rematch, Barrera over Pacquiao in the rematch, Audley Harrison over Danny Williams in the first fight and Sprott over Skelton in the rematch. There's probably some others too.

I also have Forrest over Mayorga in their rematch.

But Barrera over Pacquiao??? Huh????

I thought Barrera was comfortably outboxing Manny early and built enough of a lead to get it by a couple of points.

But maybe somebody slipped some crack into my tea because all anybody ever talked about afterwards was Pacquaio's clear win.

As the thread says, it was a decision only I saw.

Ain't that the truth...


I had Malignaggi by 1 point over Cotto.. watching from home on a low-def Internet stream...

[dempseyfire]

These immediately come to mind: I had Mosley over Forrest in the rematch, Forrest over Mayorga in the rematch, Barrera over Pacquiao in the rematch, Audley Harrison over Danny Williams in the first fight and Sprott over Skelton in the rematch. There's probably some others too.

I also have Forrest over Mayorga in their rematch.

But Barrera over Pacquiao??? Huh????

I thought Barrera was comfortably outboxing Manny early and built enough of a lead to get it by a couple of points.

But maybe somebody slipped some crack into my tea because all anybody ever talked about afterwards was Pacquaio's clear win.

As the thread says, it was a decision only I saw.

Very fitting for the thread then!

[Ambling Alp]

I had Rocky Lockridge over Chavez by 2. Cubanito Perez (remember him ?) over Hector Camacho also by 2 I think. Terry McGroom over James Toney by 2. AND I thought Holyfield beat Lennox Lewis in the rematch by 2, after I had Lewis winning the first bout by 2.

Never understood why so few people in the media had no problem with the scoring in Larry Holmes v Carl "The Truth" Williams. I had the Truth a clear 4 pt winner after he swept the first 6. Watched it with my buddy and he agreed, and a guy on the bus next morning said Williams was robbed, but the papers, magazines, tv etc said almost nothing.

You aren't the only one that thought Williams was robbed. I had Williams winning 10 out of 15 rounds (145-140). I remember watching this fight and absolutely couldn't believe it when they read the cards. 2 judges had Holmes winning 11 of the 15 rounds, I even thought that possibly the ring announcer accidentally said Holmes by mistake instead of Williams. It was really a disgrace and even today you hardly hear anything about it.

A decision that I always thought was horrible was Camacho-Mancini. Camacho did absolutely nothing in this fight. Not that I am a big fan of "punchstat" but I wish they had it for this fight. Camacho's punch output was negligible. Not that Mancini looked good. He was often wild and didn't connect often. However at least he was trying. He was at least landing with punches hear and there. All Camacho did in this fight was run. The announcers (this fight was replayed on the USA Network) seemed to like Camacho and seemed to accept the decision. I have never heard anyone else complain about this decision and I have never understood this at all.

[generic screen name]

I still some of my piss drunk scorecards. The most recent one I had Stevens beating Dirrell, I don't even remember that night, but my friends were telling me I was calling Dirrell "a goddamn pussy", to the point I was making a scorecard.