To be an elite athlete do you have to avoid alcohol?

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DavidPayne wrote:Bill Werbenick
Andy Fordham
Ricardo Mayorga
Alex Higgins
John Daly
George Best

A truimphant six-pack of sporting genius who like a pint. OK Fordham and Mayorga are a stretch for genuis. The fact Werbenick could get in a three piece suit was genuius enough
check out Fordham now

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_s ... 096290.stm
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DavidPayne wrote:Bill Werbenick
Andy Fordham
Ricardo Mayorga
Alex Higgins
John Daly
George Best

A truimphant six-pack of sporting genius who like a pint. OK Fordham and Mayorga are a stretch for genuis. The fact Werbenick could get in a three piece suit was genuius enough
So was the fact he could offset the expense of his 30-pints a day lager habit against tax due to a "nervous condition" which caused his hands to shake without alcohol!
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Old bones Ian wrote:
DavidPayne wrote:Bill Werbenick
Andy Fordham
Ricardo Mayorga
Alex Higgins
John Daly
George Best

A truimphant six-pack of sporting genius who like a pint. OK Fordham and Mayorga are a stretch for genuis. The fact Werbenick could get in a three piece suit was genuius enough
check out Fordham now

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_s ... 096290.stm
Jesus, he looks so weird! He's got a face like a rat.
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jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Old bones Ian wrote:
DavidPayne wrote:Bill Werbenick
Andy Fordham
Ricardo Mayorga
Alex Higgins
John Daly
George Best

A truimphant six-pack of sporting genius who like a pint. OK Fordham and Mayorga are a stretch for genuis. The fact Werbenick could get in a three piece suit was genuius enough
check out Fordham now

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_s ... 096290.stm
Jesus, he looks so weird! He's got a face like a rat.
He looks like Fat Bastard at the end of Austin Powers 3 "My neck looks like a vagina".
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Terry D wrote: I also find Roger pretty funny. By all accounts, when the cameras are off, he is a gentleman. Doesn't even call you a "mufferrfooker". I did feel let down by that.
Not too sure about that. According to Billy Graham he was exactly the same lovable Uncle Roger after the bout.
Billy Graham stood off to the side. After the fight, the trainer had approached Roger Mayweather, offered his hand, and said, ”Congratulations.”

“I told you he was going to get f_ucking whupped,” Roger responded.

Now, in the dressing room, Graham shook his head. “It’s hard to be gracious in defeat,” he said. “It’s easy to be gracious when you win, but even that was too much for Roger. I’d rather train Ricky Hatton than Floyd Mayweather Jr, and I’d rather be Billy Graham than Roger Mayweather.” Billy took a deep breath. “I still think Ricky can beat Floyd. But he didn’t; so that’s it, isn’t it? And I give Floyd credit. He finished the fight. He brought the curtain down, didn’t he?”
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punchers chance wrote:
Terry D wrote: I also find Roger pretty funny. By all accounts, when the cameras are off, he is a gentleman. Doesn't even call you a "mufferrfooker". I did feel let down by that.
Not too sure about that. According to Billy Graham he was exactly the same lovable Uncle Roger after the bout.
Billy Graham stood off to the side. After the fight, the trainer had approached Roger Mayweather, offered his hand, and said, ”Congratulations.”

“I told you he was going to get f_ucking whupped,” Roger responded.

Now, in the dressing room, Graham shook his head. “It’s hard to be gracious in defeat,” he said. “It’s easy to be gracious when you win, but even that was too much for Roger. I’d rather train Ricky Hatton than Floyd Mayweather Jr, and I’d rather be Billy Graham than Roger Mayweather.” Billy took a deep breath. “I still think Ricky can beat Floyd. But he didn’t; so that’s it, isn’t it? And I give Floyd credit. He finished the fight. He brought the curtain down, didn’t he?”
Ah well. Roger is the kind of guy that takes things personally.

Whitaker sure took him for a mug though, when he literally lifted him off his feet with a push in their pre-fight weigh in. Then he lifted him of his feet in the fight as well...
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Roger was a glass chinned hack as a fighter.
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Post by vman »

mayweather does drink champaine here and there.. but not even enough to say hes a drinker...

also, drinking alot of beer weakens you, and also dehydrates you.. thats why u tend to drink alot of water the next day. so, being out of breath is related to the after effects
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vman wrote:mayweather does drink champaine here and there.. but not even enough to say hes a drinker...

also, drinking alot of beer weakens you, and also dehydrates you.. thats why u tend to drink alot of water the next day. so, being out of breath is related to the after effects
Beer does not dehydrate you particularly. All alchohol is a diuretic, an in fact spirits (without mixers) would dehydrate you the most, as they have the lowest water content.

In fact, you could survive drinking beer and never drinking water, as only a small percentage of the large volume of liquid is alcohol. That's where beer came from in the first place, as a method for sterilising water and making it safe to drink, the alcoholic effects were an afterthought.

Up until about 300 years ago, people drank weak ale instead of water, as it was the only way they could be sure they wouldn't get cholera.

Problem with beer, is that it is full of carbs, so a pint of beer on average has 250 calories or so, up to about 350.

A whole bottle of white wine only has about 600.

A shot of vodka is 70.
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jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Problem with beer, is that it is full of carbs, so a pint of beer on average has 250 calories or so, up to about 350.

A whole bottle of white wine only has about 600.
Of all the things you've said on the subject James these stats alone make me realise I need to consider my tipple of choice in the new year!
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Drinking a beer ot six, I doubt, will do any athlete any harm as long as it isn't habitual. A finely honed athlete at he top of his game might be different (but I doubt it to be honest). I think alcohol, to certain limits, can be taken into the dietary pattern of an athlete without any significant negative impact on performance. It comes down to the amount and the regularity of the consumpton.

I used to do half marathons and 10K runs just as a focus to keeping myself fit. The focus became a little bit of an obsession at the time and (whilst I wouldn't put myself in any sort of category of an athlete or being finely honed) I produced my by best time of 1hr 16m when I was on the lash on a Friday night and ran a half marathon on the Sunday. Now how does that one work? I ran about 10 thereafter, a couple wth the same scenario, and got thereabouts but didn't beat my best time.
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how come Fordham still has a massive gut even though he's lost so much weight?
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Air Rodney wrote:how come Fordham still has a massive gut even though he's lost so much weight?
He might have lost 10st., but he still weighs 21.
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Goz wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Problem with beer, is that it is full of carbs, so a pint of beer on average has 250 calories or so, up to about 350.

A whole bottle of white wine only has about 600.
Of all the things you've said on the subject James these stats alone make me realise I need to consider my tipple of choice in the new year!
I managed to shift about 12 pounds in weight just by drinking white wine instead of beer believe it or not. That was in about three weeks!

Beer is the real enemy when it comes to whacking on mammoth amounts of weight.

The most you are likely to drink is about 1 1/2 bottles of white wine at the boozer. Which is only 900, not too bad. 8 pints is around 2000-3000. Massive difference.
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I'm taking all this on board, wine is the future....
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jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Goz wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Problem with beer, is that it is full of carbs, so a pint of beer on average has 250 calories or so, up to about 350.

A whole bottle of white wine only has about 600.
Of all the things you've said on the subject James these stats alone make me realise I need to consider my tipple of choice in the new year!
I managed to shift about 12 pounds in weight just by drinking white wine instead of beer believe it or not. That was in about three weeks!

Beer is the real enemy when it comes to whacking on mammoth amounts of weight.

The most you are likely to drink is about 1 1/2 bottles of white wine at the boozer. Which is only 900, not too bad. 8 pints is around 2000-3000. Massive difference.
Dont you drink wine by the pint though James? :wink:
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Re: To be an elite athlete do you have to avoid alcohol?

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The Blade wrote:
boxbet wrote:I like to have a drink, but I feel its holding my fitness level back. Is it possible to have some alcohol in your life each week / fortnite and still be at your best. I know it can interupt your sleep, which is a very important part of being super fit.
Seb Coe was arguably our greatest Olympic athlete, and love a pint and always did. Question answered?
Loved a pint, no problem, its pints that is - Any athlete that enjoys the odd pint is doing him/herself no harm at all.
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jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Goz wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Problem with beer, is that it is full of carbs, so a pint of beer on average has 250 calories or so, up to about 350.

A whole bottle of white wine only has about 600.
Of all the things you've said on the subject James these stats alone make me realise I need to consider my tipple of choice in the new year!
I managed to shift about 12 pounds in weight just by drinking white wine instead of beer believe it or not. That was in about three weeks!

Beer is the real enemy when it comes to whacking on mammoth amounts of weight.

The most you are likely to drink is about 1 1/2 bottles of white wine at the boozer. Which is only 900, not too bad. 8 pints is around 2000-3000. Massive difference.
Its all weight around the waist isnt it, not spread evenly over - The beer gut is a real problem where fitness is concerned.
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