The Top 100 British Boxers by Ron Lewis

Sammy Mendelson · Post by **Sammy Mendelson** » 22 Dec 2007, 06:09

Ron Lewis has completed his Top 100 British boxers list with Ted "Kid" Lewis punching his way to the top spot. Ron is going to revise the list sometime in the new year to take into account recent results (Haye) and oversights. If you haven't had a look already, you should follow the link and see what you think.

A lot of hard work has gone into this project. That said, whilst I know such countdowns are subjective in the extreme, I disagree with his ordering. There are also a good few fellows I'd have in the list who are absent.

Great effort though, Ron.

Ron's Top 10

1. Ted "Kid" Lewis
2. Joe Calzaghe
3. Lennox Lewis
4. Randolph Turpin
5. Nigel Benn
6. Ken Buchanan
7. Naseem Hamed
8. Lloyd Honeyghan
9. Jimmy Wilde
10. Ricky Hatton
11. John Conteh
12. Jack "Kid" Berg
13. Barry McGuigan
14. Jim Watt
15. Freddie Welsh
16. Alan Minter
17. Chris Eubank
18. Terry Downes
19. Freddie Mills
20. Henry Cooper
21. Jim Driscoll
22. Dennis Andries
23. Benny Lynch
24. Joe Bugner
25. Cornelius Boza-Edwards
26. Maurice Hope
27. Junior Witter
28. Frank Bruno
29. Duke McKenzie
30. Scott Harrison
31. John H. Stracey
32. Rinty Monaghan
33. Clinton Woods
34. Herol Graham
35. Wayne McCullough
36. Charlie Magri
37. Tony Sibson
38. Jackie Paterson
39. Dave McAuley
40. Colin Jones
41. Michael Watson
42. Len Harvey
43. Johnny Nelson
44. Herbie Hide
45. Walter McGowan
46. Robin Reid
47. Enzo Maccarinelli
48. Jim McDonnell
49. Ernie Roderick
50. Paul Ingle
51. Richie Woodhall
52. Howard Winstone
53. Terry Marsh
54. Dave 'Boy' Green
55. Paul Hodkinson
56. Alex Arthur
57. Kirkland Laing
58. Johnny Owen
59. Peter Kane
60. Glenn McCrory
61. David Haye
62. Clinton McKenzie
63. Pat Cowdell
64. Steve Robinson
65. Chris Finnegan
66. Tommy Farr
67. Brian Curvis
68. Colin McMillan
69. Peter Waterman
70. Eamonn Loughran
71. James Cook
72. Pat Clinton
73. Eddie Thomas
74. Kevin Finnegan
75. Glenn Catley
76. Jock McAvoy
77. Jackie Brown
78. Chris Pyatt
79. Billy Schwer
80. Carl Froch
81. Carl Thompson
82. Terry Allen
83. Robbie Regan
84. Bunny Johnson
85. Gavin Rees
86. Johnny Pritchett
87. Dave Charnley
88. Nicky Cook
89. Damaen Kelly
90. Paul Weir
91. Spencer Oliver
92. Billy Hardy
93. Alan Rudkin
94. Michael Brodie
95. Robert McCracken
96. Eric Boon
97. Johnny Caldwell
98. George Feeney
99. Howard Eastman
100. Bombadier Billy Wells

http://timesonline.typepad.com/boxing/t ... index.html

TerribleTerry · Post by **TerribleTerry** » 22 Dec 2007, 06:18

These lists are hugely subjective and you could spend all day finding fault and reorganising to your own personal taste, but for me the major misgiving I have is seeing Jimmy Wilde as low as 9th. Surely his achievements warrant a much higher position?

Benny Lynch down at 23 seems harsh too.

Its a lot easier to criticise than it is to make a list like this but it makes for some good debate over the slow Christmas period

Mukel · Post by **Mukel** » 22 Dec 2007, 06:37

Theres a lot of bad choices, but i applaud anyone who sits down and compiles a top 100 list, a lot of fighters included seem to be of the last 15 years.

STP · Post by **STP** » 22 Dec 2007, 06:38

I can't see how anyone could put Calzaghe over Benn, personally. There's a huge gulf in the quality of opponents, and Calzaghe hasn't even tasted defeat, let alone SHATTERING one's, or been in a war anything like Benn's.

yiddo14 · Post by **yiddo14** » 22 Dec 2007, 06:57

Jimmy Wilde ranked in 9th position??????

Nuff said.

Fair play though, making a list of the best 100 British Boxers is not easy to do.

Collins2000 · Post by **Collins2000** » 22 Dec 2007, 07:33

No Bert Gilroy?

Loftgroov · Post by **Loftgroov** » 22 Dec 2007, 07:38

Joe Calzaghe over Lennox Lewis??? Fcuk me... that guy has some strange ideas.

Also, Benn at No.5 ...but Eubank only No.17? Why such a difference?

When I noticed Enzo is above David Haye I stopped reading....

Enzo No.47 ....Carl Froch No.80!!???

chesh · Post by **chesh** » 22 Dec 2007, 08:21

Loftgroov wrote:Joe Calzaghe over Lennox Lewis??? Fcuk me... that guy has some strange ideas.

Also, Benn at No.5 ...but Eubank only No.17? Why such a difference?

When I noticed Enzo is above David Haye I stopped reading....

Enzo No.47 ....Carl Froch No.80!!???

Alex Arthur 38 places above Michael Brodie and 25 places above Carl Thompson!! The man who KO'd the current undisputed cruiser champ 25 places below the man who got starched by Michael Gomez and has yet to show he is anywhere near world class! I know lists like this are are difficult to compile, but, FFS, was this one sponsored by SN?

chesh · Post by **chesh** » 22 Dec 2007, 08:37

Loftgroov wrote:Joe Calzaghe over Lennox Lewis??? Fcuk me... that guy has some strange ideas.

Also, Benn at No.5 ...but Eubank only No.17? Why such a difference?

When I noticed Enzo is above David Haye I stopped reading....

Enzo No.47 ....Carl Froch No.80!!???

Calzaghe would need Ottke and a younger Jones and B-Hop on his record to top Lennox. And as for Enzo above Haye, that's ridiculous, as is the fact he's above Paul Ingle who won a more respected world title (IBF) from a world-class fighter (Medina) and successfully defended it at MSG against an American (Junior Jones).

Woller · Post by **Woller** » 22 Dec 2007, 12:15

Jack Petersen ??

Woller

Sammy Mendelson · Post by **Sammy Mendelson** » 22 Dec 2007, 12:31

Woller wrote:Jack Petersen ??

Woller

What are you questioning? If you've missed his inclusion, he's in at number 38. If you're questioning his position, that's your call.

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 22 Dec 2007, 12:44

Herol Graham at 34 is too low for my liking

ArtOfWar · Post by **ArtOfWar** » 22 Dec 2007, 14:09

It's a shit list and it looks to me as though the guy has been gap filling with some of those names.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 22 Dec 2007, 14:15

Always subjective of course but how on earth is Robert McCracken above Howard Eastman?

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 22 Dec 2007, 14:56

Poor list I have to say, Calzaghe at 2!!!.... Herol at 34!!!... bah!...

n1ebf · Post by **n1ebf** » 22 Dec 2007, 16:05

Bruno's probably a bit high but he did come up against an unbeatable oppo in Tyson. It wasn't the same Tyson Lewis beat.
As for Lewis , I don't think he should be quite so high up getting sparked twice against oppos he was better than. But as I've expressed before heavies suffer more knockouts than most other weights so he's to be cut some slack here.
Hatton is too high full stop as he doesn't take risks. The exception being the other week and one would expect that due to the sheer cash bonanza. He simply couldn't "lose" as soon as the deal was signed.

Robin Reid at 46 or whatever is a sad statement about Brit boxing considering it's an all time great list - Paul Ingle had greater skill and will IMO and is ranked lower.

I am not picking it to bits as I didn't spend all that time collating it and am not knocking the editor.
It's a good debate so well done for that

Arbachakov · Post by **Arbachakov** » 22 Dec 2007, 17:17

He forgot Bunny Sterling.

Southpaw Stylist · Post by **Southpaw Stylist** » 22 Dec 2007, 18:18

Lol @ Carl Froch being on that list.

What nonsense.

Spud · Post by **Spud** » 22 Dec 2007, 18:33

Barking mad.

Canada · Post by **Canada** » 22 Dec 2007, 20:04

I dont see how Calzaghe beats Lewis. Fighting 25 B level fighters than beating 1 or 2 good ones doesnt warrant such a high ranking, this list shouldve been top 25, maybe the guy making it wouldnt have been so desperate in filling spots, it seems he ran out and just out in random names.

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 22 Dec 2007, 20:36

Sammy Mendelson wrote:Ron Lewis has completed his Top 100 British boxers list with Ted "Kid" Lewis punching his way to the top spot. Ron is going to revise the list sometime in the new year to take into account recent results (Haye) and oversights. If you haven't had a look already, you should follow the link and see what you think.

A lot of hard work has gone into this project. That said, whilst I know such countdowns are subjective in the extreme, I disagree with his ordering. There are also a good few fellows I'd have in the list who are absent.

Great effort though, Ron.

Ron's Top 10

1. Ted "Kid" Lewis
2. Joe Calzaghe
3. Lennox Lewis
4. Randolph Turpin
5. Nigel Benn
6. Ken Buchanan
7. Naseem Hamed
8. Lloyd Honeyghan
9. Jimmy Wilde
10. Ricky Hatton
11. John Conteh
12. Jack "Kid" Berg
13. Barry McGuigan
14. Jim Watt
15. Freddie Welsh
16. Alan Minter
17. Chris Eubank
18. Terry Downes
19. Freddie Mills
20. Henry Cooper
21. Jim Driscoll
22. Dennis Andries
23. Benny Lynch
24. Joe Bugner
25. Cornelius Boza-Edwards
26. Maurice Hope
27. Junior Witter
28. Frank Bruno
29. Duke McKenzie
30. Scott Harrison
31. John H. Stracey
32. Rinty Monaghan
33. Clinton Woods
34. Herol Graham
35. Wayne McCullough
36. Charlie Magri
37. Tony Sibson
38. Jackie Paterson
39. Dave McAuley
40. Colin Jones
41. Michael Watson
42. Len Harvey
43. Johnny Nelson
44. Herbie Hide
45. Walter McGowan
46. Robin Reid
47. Enzo Maccarinelli
48. Jim McDonnell
49. Ernie Roderick
50. Paul Ingle
51. Richie Woodhall
52. Howard Winstone
53. Terry Marsh
54. Dave 'Boy' Green
55. Paul Hodkinson
56. Alex Arthur
57. Kirkland Laing
58. Johnny Owen
59. Peter Kane
60. Glenn McCrory
61. David Haye
62. Clinton McKenzie
63. Pat Cowdell
64. Steve Robinson
65. Chris Finnegan
66. Tommy Farr
67. Brian Curvis
68. Colin McMillan
69. Peter Waterman
70. Eamonn Loughran
71. James Cook
72. Pat Clinton
73. Eddie Thomas
74. Kevin Finnegan
75. Glenn Catley
76. Jock McAvoy
77. Jackie Brown
78. Chris Pyatt
79. Billy Schwer
80. Carl Froch
81. Carl Thompson
82. Terry Allen
83. Robbie Regan
84. Bunny Johnson
85. Gavin Rees
86. Johnny Pritchett
87. Dave Charnley
88. Nicky Cook
89. Damaen Kelly
90. Paul Weir
91. Spencer Oliver
92. Billy Hardy
93. Alan Rudkin
94. Michael Brodie
95. Robert McCracken
96. Eric Boon
97. Johnny Caldwell
98. George Feeney
99. Howard Eastman
100. Bombadier Billy Wells

http://timesonline.typepad.com/boxing/t ... index.html

Its all about personal preference really, but he has Pat Cowdell and Dave Charnley far too low.

THe only man who comfortably beat Charnley was Carlos Ortiz, and Cowdell was a former Olympic Bronze medallist (1976) I think and took Sanchez to a split verdict in Texas.

I would also have Conteh in the top 10, maybe just outside top six.

Hatton, Benn, Robin Reid and Clinton Woods too high.

Duke McKenzie and Terry Marsh too low.

King Tubby · Post by **King Tubby** » 22 Dec 2007, 21:27

No Don Cockell? My old man would be fuming ! Honeyghan's quite high in there, isn't he?

pundit · Post by **pundit** » 23 Dec 2007, 00:26

Jimmy Wilde at #9 -- no need to read further.

Carbo · Post by **Carbo** » 23 Dec 2007, 05:02

Benny Lynch so low, Buchanan below Benn, etc etc. However, that must be a termendous undertaking, so well done Ron Lewis.

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 23 Dec 2007, 07:29

ron lewis is obviously welsh. jimmy wildes position is laughable got to be top 5 at least.
henry cooper too high. goodness me i respect ron's effort but i think he must have got tired very early.

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