Herbie Hide spolier

bigped · Post by **bigped** » 23 Dec 2007, 17:57

As far as i managed to pick up Hide won in round 6, had the boy down a few times and his corner throw towel in.

Matt W · Post by **Matt W** » 23 Dec 2007, 18:08

Bummer.

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 23 Dec 2007, 18:09

bigped wrote:As far as i managed to pick up Hide won in round 6, had the boy down a few times and his corner throw towel in.

Only saw the last couple of rounds but a solid performance by Hide, looked a little tired so I reckon he tried to blast the guy out early as the opponent was looking fairly marked up.
Caught him with some heavy blows and dropped him and the ref stopped it.

His jab was very good when he used it. He needs to learn how to fight inside a bit, or atleast push the guy off when he gets close

bigped · Post by **bigped** » 23 Dec 2007, 18:33

the boy was down round two maybe? hide could maybe make a big noise at cruiser.

rhino222 · Post by **rhino222** » 23 Dec 2007, 19:26

we want hide in with maccarinelli..surely that match is getting closer...

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 23 Dec 2007, 19:33

bigped wrote:the boy was down round two maybe? hide could maybe make a big noise at cruiser.

Hide will get chinned by the first half decent guy that fights him back.

Deserter · Post by **Deserter** » 23 Dec 2007, 19:34

rhino222 wrote:we want hide in with maccarinelli..surely that match is getting closer...

You honestly think Warren would let Hide within 100 miles of Enzo

Talk about a high-risk, low-reward fight from Warren and Enzo's perspective... can't ever see it happening...

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 23 Dec 2007, 20:23

If Vitali Klitschko could breeze punch Hide, then Mac will Ko Herbie.

Tykemania · Post by **Tykemania** » 23 Dec 2007, 21:09

Although I must again say that the quality, or lack thereof, attached to the Seconds Out broadcast makes it hard to really tell, I thought Hide was decent enough yesterday - smooth when he used the jab, strong when he went for power shots. Having said that, the guy he fought had one of the more blown up records I've seen.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 23 Dec 2007, 21:17

Deserter wrote:
rhino222 wrote:we want hide in with maccarinelli..surely that match is getting closer...
You honestly think Warren would let Hide within 100 miles of Enzo
Talk about a high-risk, low-reward fight from Warren and Enzo's perspective... can't ever see it happening...

Well it would depend if Warren could get options on Herbie I suppose. I think it would draw a bit of attention. Remember Herbie is fairly well known, being part of the old ITV Golden Generation... I think it will get similar, but a bit more, interest as Froch vs Reid had.

Deserter · Post by **Deserter** » 24 Dec 2007, 05:48

stujones wrote:
Deserter wrote:
rhino222 wrote:we want hide in with maccarinelli..surely that match is getting closer...
You honestly think Warren would let Hide within 100 miles of Enzo
Talk about a high-risk, low-reward fight from Warren and Enzo's perspective... can't ever see it happening...
Well it would depend if Warren could get options on Herbie I suppose. I think it would draw a bit of attention. Remember Herbie is fairly well known, being part of the old ITV Golden Generation... I think it will get similar, but a bit more, interest as Froch vs Reid had.

Stu, sorry mate, but I honestly think you're wrong on this one. Even if Warren could get options on Herbie the huge difference is that Enzo can make Warren proper money - fanbase, TV exposure etc - whereas Hide is a non-entity in those terms.
The big difference with Froch and Reid is that the Reid fight represented minimal risk for Froch - Froch has a great chin and Reid was clearly well, well past his peak. There's no way that Hide represents such an easy option for Enzo given their respective strengths and weaknesses.

yiddo14 · Post by **yiddo14** » 24 Dec 2007, 05:53

I don't think Enzo can make Warren "proper money" to be honest.
Only reason he has fought infront of such large crowds before is down to being Joe Calzaghe's regular warm up boy

SN can use the ex-heavyweight champion of the world angle to promote a fight between Hide and Macca.

I would'nt mind seeing them go at it, and it would be pretty exciting whilst it lasted.
You would have to favour Enzo of course, but Hide is very unpredictable and carries genune power.

Lightsoot · Post by **Lightsoot** » 24 Dec 2007, 06:00

As hs previously been mentioned, Hide is unlikely to be seen in the UK for a long time due to various financial issues. Its good to see Hide back on the scene and that he's been kept active but his win last night essentially proved very little.

I think Enzo could prove to be a good draw in Wales in his own right, but he needs to be facing more Wayne Braithwaite's than Bobby Gunn's. It took Joe Calzaghe years to cement himself as a major star. In the meantime, I'd love to see Enzo tackle O'Neill Bell.

Deserter · Post by **Deserter** » 24 Dec 2007, 06:03

yiddo14 wrote:I don't think Enzo can make Warren "proper money" to be honest.
Only reason he has fought infront of such large crowds before is down to being Joe Calzaghe's regular warm up boy .

And that alone has guaranteed him massive exposure that he'll be able to capitalise on going forwards, particularly given Joe's only got another year or so left in the game and the Welsh fans will need a new 'poster boy' for the future.
Enzo will make Frank far more money than Hide - it's not even a debatable issue...

Razor · Post by **Razor** » 24 Dec 2007, 06:21

nickd wrote:
bigped wrote:the boy was down round two maybe? hide could maybe make a big noise at cruiser.
Hide will get chinned by the first half decent guy that fights him back.

True, im a big Hide fan but feel this, i watched half the fight last night and herbie has no footwork or stamina...

Matt W · Post by **Matt W** » 24 Dec 2007, 11:10

Hide is a has-been with no chin. I want to see Macca in decent fights that will improve his world standing.

Mr Gunn · Post by **Mr Gunn** » 24 Dec 2007, 11:48

Come on the Dancing Destroyer

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 25 Dec 2007, 08:04

Mr Gunn wrote:Come on the Dancing Destroyer

I'd rather just give him a firm handshake

Timmbo · Post by **Timmbo** » 25 Dec 2007, 18:52

Has anyone got any links for this fight?

ArtOfWar · Post by **ArtOfWar** » 25 Dec 2007, 19:14

Max Molyneux wrote:If Vitali Klitschko could breeze punch Hide, then Mac will Ko Herbie.

Not if Herbie landed first.

chesh · Post by **chesh** » 25 Dec 2007, 21:29

Old bones Ian wrote:
Mr Gunn wrote:Come on the Dancing Destroyer
I'd rather just give him a firm handshake

rhino222 · Post by **rhino222** » 26 Dec 2007, 06:45

thats the thing about hide v maccarinelli or haye or haye v maccarinelli. i think of the 2 that haye and hide are the biggest punchers, but the 3 dont have any whiskers between them, so any permutation of the trio in any battle could go either way, and they are all british, these are the fights that we want to see...

yiddo14 · Post by **yiddo14** » 26 Dec 2007, 07:43

Deserter wrote:
yiddo14 wrote:I don't think Enzo can make Warren "proper money" to be honest.
Only reason he has fought infront of such large crowds before is down to being Joe Calzaghe's regular warm up boy .
And that alone has guaranteed him massive exposure that he'll be able to capitalise on going forwards, particularly given Joe's only got another year or so left in the game and the Welsh fans will need a new 'poster boy' for the future.
Enzo will make Frank far more money than Hide - it's not even a debatable issue...

Boxing fans are fickle.
Once Enzo loses, and that will happen again sometime, his stock will fall with the Welsh fans looking for another "poster boy".
Calzaghe took a long time to pull in the big numbers, and only then that was off the back of victories against other top fighters and champions, the like that Enzo has yet to face(Braithwaite was done, no more than a gatekeeper in todays cruiserweight division)
Joe is also a great fighter, something Enzo is not.

Of course Enzo would make Fwank more money than Hide as we stand today, no one said any different.

It's a fight I would'nt mind seeing, but then again there are tougher tasks out their for Enzo which I would prefer to see to be honest.

WildWaylon · Post by **WildWaylon** » 26 Dec 2007, 09:33

Deserter wrote:
rhino222 wrote:we want hide in with maccarinelli..surely that match is getting closer...
You honestly think Warren would let Hide within 100 miles of Enzo
Talk about a high-risk, low-reward fight from Warren and Enzo's perspective... can't ever see it happening...

I think Warren is making better matchups at last - Its taken years for boxing to excite people again and good fights have to be made now while the iron is still hot - The Mitchell fight will, or should, get us off to a good start in 2008 - Macca/Haye would be fantastic but Macca/Hide would be pretty good also - FW has got to do something big with Enzo before that particular pot goes completely off the boil.

cliffcouser · Post by **cliffcouser** » 28 Dec 2007, 01:06

If any promoter like to book Cliff Couser for any fights email me at [email protected] Couser will luv to KO some British wagens.....

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