The Top 100 British Boxers by Ron Lewis

observer1 · Post by **observer1** » 23 Dec 2007, 10:36

respect other peoples opinions, but that list is strange and a bit messed up..

If Alex Arthur is there, surely Amir Khan Should be up there ?

What about Danny Williams??

Syntax Error · Post by **Syntax Error** » 23 Dec 2007, 11:17

Respect for putting that list together, but Buchanan is too low IMO.

IMO, he is number 1, but he's got to be in the top 5, even top 3, surely?

Scrap · Post by **Scrap** » 23 Dec 2007, 12:53

Sorry the list is terrible Theres people who should not be there and lots that should its a mess.

Sammy Mendelson · Post by **Sammy Mendelson** » 23 Dec 2007, 14:22

Sammy Mendelson wrote:
Woller wrote:Jack Petersen ??

Woller
What are you questioning? If you've missed his inclusion, he's in at number 38. If you're questioning his position, that's your call.

Hi, got your PM, my mistake. Heavyweight Jack Peterson is absent from the list. I'm not sure he should be included, though. Yes he beat Jock McAvoy and Len Harvey but they were both giving away plenty of weight. Again , it's all subjective.

dr_devious · Post by **dr_devious** » 23 Dec 2007, 15:21

Jock McAvoy at 76, with luminaries like James Cook and Alex Arthur ahead of him on the list

Collins2000 · Post by **Collins2000** » 23 Dec 2007, 15:28

dr_devious wrote:Jock McAvoy at 76, with luminaries like James Cook and Alex Arthur ahead of him on the list

The only word for that is ridiculous.

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 23 Dec 2007, 15:30

no bert gilroy - even worse is no johnny clark!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
too many average guys from the last few years who will prove in the not too distant future to be of little consequence in any best of brit list.
froch? it makes me slightly ashamed to be quite honest

n1ebf · Post by **n1ebf** » 23 Dec 2007, 15:40

harrygreb wrote:no bert gilroy - even worse is no johnny clark!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
too many average guys from the last few years who will prove in the not too distant future to be of little consequence in any best of brit list.
froch? it makes me slightly ashamed to be quite honest

come on Harry Froch isn't all that bad you know. We will know more this time next year with a bit of luck

T.M.K · Post by **T.M.K** » 23 Dec 2007, 16:18

Hi gents,

fair play to him for coming-up with a top-100 - that really is HARDCORE! However as I scanned the list I was either laughing, or shaking my head, or gasping.

Eamonn Loughran is really scrappng the barrel.

Scott Harrison above Herol Graham?

Calzaghe above Lewis?

Hamed as a low as 15th?

Wilde as low as 9th?

Sorry - invite the guy to my local with his list - the beer is on me....... and make sure he has the afternoon free!

"T.M.K"

King Tubby · Post by **King Tubby** » 23 Dec 2007, 16:27

dr_devious wrote:Jock McAvoy at 76, with luminaries like James Cook and Alex Arthur ahead of him on the list

I read Brian Hughes' book about him, sounds like he was a bit special.

n1ebf · Post by **n1ebf** » 23 Dec 2007, 16:33

The "Rochdale Thunderbolt"..............they don't make nicknames like that anymore do they eh?

Damian · Post by **Damian** » 23 Dec 2007, 19:08

Jackie Brown is also far too low. Plus, surely Patrick 'Black Flash' Barrett should be on this list just for his win over Calamati in Sicily for the European title alone?

King Tubby · Post by **King Tubby** » 23 Dec 2007, 20:00

King Tubby · Post by **King Tubby** » 23 Dec 2007, 20:01

Sorry, meant to be a new post.

Tykemania · Post by **Tykemania** » 23 Dec 2007, 23:44

STP wrote:I can't see how anyone could put Calzaghe over Benn, personally. There's a huge gulf in the quality of opponents, and Calzaghe hasn't even tasted defeat, let alone SHATTERING one's, or been in a war anything like Benn's.

Equally, you could argue that those are plus points. Thats what makes this sort of thig so interesting in a pub over about, ooh, eight pints of decent ale!

pundit · Post by **pundit** » 24 Dec 2007, 00:16

Who did this list. Prince Charles?

Tantum · Post by **Tantum** » 24 Dec 2007, 07:25

There's been 100 British boxers?

On a more serious note, Naseem Hamed over Jimmy Wilde proves this list to be a complete farce.

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 24 Dec 2007, 07:40

froch isnt that bad youre right but there have been many men as good or better than carl over the years that makes his inclusion somehow a bit half hearted.

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 24 Dec 2007, 07:46

Damian wrote:Jackie Brown is also far too low. Plus, surely Patrick 'Black Flash' Barrett should be on this list just for his win over Calamati in Sicily for the European title alone?

Good call on Pat Barrett

Sammy Mendelson · Post by **Sammy Mendelson** » 24 Dec 2007, 11:36

Damian wrote:Jackie Brown is also far too low. Plus, surely Patrick 'Black Flash' Barrett should be on this list just for his win over Calamati in Sicily for the European title alone?

I was waiting for you to mention Patrick Barrett, Damian. Did you watch him on Channel M with Michael Jennings a couple of months back?

Damian · Post by **Damian** » 24 Dec 2007, 13:07

Sammy Mendelson wrote:
Damian wrote:Jackie Brown is also far too low. Plus, surely Patrick 'Black Flash' Barrett should be on this list just for his win over Calamati in Sicily for the European title alone?
I was waiting for you to mention Patrick Barrett, Damian. Did you watch him on Channel M with Michael Jennings a couple of months back?

Hi. No, I didn't see the Channel M programme but I see Pat regularly given his role in the gym. He is still looking in great shape too. I know I am biased but can't believe that he doesn't merit a mention somewhere in the Top 100.

Sammy Mendelson · Post by **Sammy Mendelson** » 24 Dec 2007, 13:47

Damian wrote:
Sammy Mendelson wrote:
Damian wrote:Jackie Brown is also far too low. Plus, surely Patrick 'Black Flash' Barrett should be on this list just for his win over Calamati in Sicily for the European title alone?
I was waiting for you to mention Patrick Barrett, Damian. Did you watch him on Channel M with Michael Jennings a couple of months back?
Hi. No, I didn't see the Channel M programme but I see Pat regularly given his role in the gym. He is still looking in great shape too. I know I am biased but can't believe that he doesn't merit a mention somewhere in the Top 100.

I agree that Pat should feature in the list.

What's the set-up at the gym now, Damian? Has your dad taken a back seat yet or is he still in the gym Mon-Fri? You must be proud of all his achievements; he's a Manchester legend.

Damian · Post by **Damian** » 24 Dec 2007, 14:10

Sammy Mendelson wrote:
Damian wrote:
Sammy Mendelson wrote: I was waiting for you to mention Patrick Barrett, Damian. Did you watch him on Channel M with Michael Jennings a couple of months back?
Hi. No, I didn't see the Channel M programme but I see Pat regularly given his role in the gym. He is still looking in great shape too. I know I am biased but can't believe that he doesn't merit a mention somewhere in the Top 100.
I agree that Pat should feature in the list.

What's the set-up at the gym now, Damian? Has your dad taken a back seat yet or is he still in the gym Mon-Fri? You must be proud of all his achievements; he's a Manchester legend.

Hi Sammy, thanks for the enquiry. Yeah, we are all proud of him and he'd be

to be described as a legend.

He is still in the gym everyday but is working with Patrick and Tommy McDonagh, who are taking on increasing responsibility as they are both fantastic trainers and coaches, who will go far.

He is very enthusiatic about the great stable he has got and is bringing through some great prospects (Reese Roberts and Scott Quigg are two names worth watching out for).

I'll pass on your regards but feel free to drop in if you are ever passing.

The Top 100 British Boxers by Ron Lewis

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