Macca V Haye is on - in March!!

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 28 Dec 2007, 09:47

Woo-Hoo, COME ON ENZO!

An all-British title fight between Enzo Maccarinelli and David Haye has been confirmed for 8 March.
Swansea's Maccarinelli last fought on the Joe Calzaghe-Mikkel Kessler undercard in November, stopping Mohamed Azzaoui in the fourth round.

Londoner Haye had to get up from the canvas to sensationally stop Jean Marc Mormeck in the seventh round and claim the WBC and WBA titles in November.

Maccarinelli said: "I'm delighted that Haye has finally put pen to paper."

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 28 Dec 2007, 09:57

Hasnt Enzo signed his half of the contract 3 times though? Only for allegedly to want options etc... so Hayes camp have refused?

boxbet · Post by **boxbet** » 28 Dec 2007, 10:04

What options does Frank have if any?? He must have some otherwise he wouldnt have made the fight.

The Blade · Post by **The Blade** » 28 Dec 2007, 10:12

Perhaps this news silences the tedious bleatings of the stuck record brigade on this site who suggest allegedly overly protects his fighters. This proves, with the greatest of respect, on the back of Calzaghe-Kessler that these critics are spouting arrant nonsense (nice words for bollocks). Now we have a fight that everybody has been calling for, so why not give FW a little credit for having the balls to put it on.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 28 Dec 2007, 10:18

Surely that's what promoters are SUPPOSED to do, put on fights the public want to see.

Lenny · Post by **Lenny** » 28 Dec 2007, 10:21

But Blade I feel that once again Frank's timing is as good as ever. He said enough times he didn't feel Haye could lose the weight for the Momeck fight so he obviously feels he is putting his guy in with an extremely weight drained fighter for the chance to be champ at cruiserweight.

Glad the fight is happening though and hope neither camp offers too much of an excuse after the event (fat chance)

The Blade · Post by **The Blade** » 28 Dec 2007, 10:21

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Surely that's what promoters are SUPPOSED to do, put on fights the public want to see.

Agreed. And he has. You know as well as I do that Haye is a Maloney - Sky fighter - while Enzo is SN therefore Setanta. So what is your point exactly. A promoter is taking a risk, paying both men career high purses I gather, and what I am saying is give credit. The fight we want as fans is happening. Now the SN team has to use its expertise to make a profit.

Lenny · Post by **Lenny** » 28 Dec 2007, 10:25

If we are to thank anyone for this fight happening then it's Haye. He's the one taking the huge (unnecessary outside of purse) risk here

Warren is getting his man a shot at the title against a weight drained fighter and domestic rival on his bill and channel, thanks mate i'm sure you did it for the fans

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 28 Dec 2007, 10:29

I always give credit where it is due. I would point out however that SN have a lot to gain for their man should he win, given that Haye is virtually the undisputed champion.

The timing, as mentioned earlier is also in Macca's favour.

I have no doubt this fight had it's difficulties in the making, and yes, I'm glad it's happened, but I am not going to get too effusive, given that it gives SN a chance to get all the belts at cruiserweight for Enzo, it's not like they are offering Haye a shot at the belts is it?

Haye doesn't need this fight at all, he's got the belts, and could take a nice easy defence before moving up. If anyone deserves the praise in my book, it's Haye and his management.

Poncey · Post by **Poncey** » 28 Dec 2007, 10:39

jamesmcdonnell wrote:I always give credit where it is due. I would point out however that SN have a lot to gain for their man should he win, given that Haye is virtually the undisputed champion.

The timing, as mentioned earlier is also in Macca's favour.

I have no doubt this fight had it's difficulties in the making, and yes, I'm glad it's happened, but I am not going to get too effusive, given that it gives SN a chance to get all the belts at cruiserweight for Enzo, it's not like they are offering Haye a shot at the belts is it?

Haye doesn't need this fight at all, he's got the belts, and could take a nice easy defence before moving up. If anyone deserves the praise in my book, it's Haye and his management.

Spot on.

Kudos to Haye for hanging around the division for one more fight and giving the fans what they want.

The Blade · Post by **The Blade** » 28 Dec 2007, 10:39

jamesmcdonnell wrote:I always give credit where it is due. I would point out however that SN have a lot to gain for their man should he win, given that Haye is virtually the undisputed champion.

The timing, as mentioned earlier is also in Macca's favour.

I have no doubt this fight had it's difficulties in the making, and yes, I'm glad it's happened, but I am not going to get too effusive, given that it gives SN a chance to get all the belts at cruiserweight for Enzo, it's not like they are offering Haye a shot at the belts is it?

Haye doesn't need this fight at all, he's got the belts, and could take a nice easy defence before moving up. If anyone deserves the praise in my book, it's Haye and his management.

Well let's hope they are laughing all the way to the bank.

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 28 Dec 2007, 10:41

Hayes in a win win situation really. If he wins, happy days. If he loses he blames the weight (which incidentally came off okay for the Mormeck fight and always has come off okay) infact, has Haye ever not made weight? Does he have anymore weight making problems than hatton or Scott Harrison (had)? Or is it just that he moans about it more?

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 28 Dec 2007, 10:42

Terry D wrote:
Wales wrote:Hasnt Enzo signed his half of the contract 3 times though? Only for allegedly to want options etc... so Hayes camp have refused?
There is refusing to do something and having the rug pulled out from under you by the demands of the other party.

Do you think Haye bottled it from Enzo by going the traditional route, working the WBC rankings and then getting the real titles abroad? All while Enzo has been in Wales whinging until the titles are delivered to him?

Enzo has been a right divvy in regards to this clash. Haye's heart and desire have made this clash bigger than it once was.

not disputing why Haye hasnt fought, I can imagine the options etc... were a joke. All Im saying is the comment by Enzo is in relation to him having signed a couple of times and haye / his managment not wanting to. I genuinley believe both fighters have wanted the fight to happen.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 28 Dec 2007, 10:44

The Blade wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:I always give credit where it is due. I would point out however that SN have a lot to gain for their man should he win, given that Haye is virtually the undisputed champion.

The timing, as mentioned earlier is also in Macca's favour.

I have no doubt this fight had it's difficulties in the making, and yes, I'm glad it's happened, but I am not going to get too effusive, given that it gives SN a chance to get all the belts at cruiserweight for Enzo, it's not like they are offering Haye a shot at the belts is it?

Haye doesn't need this fight at all, he's got the belts, and could take a nice easy defence before moving up. If anyone deserves the praise in my book, it's Haye and his management.
Well let's hope they are laughing all the way to the bank.

Well, whoever wins, I'll be happy. I like Macca, always have done, and in fact have always favoured him against Haye.

Lenny · Post by **Lenny** » 28 Dec 2007, 10:49

Wales wrote:Hayes in a win win situation really. If he wins, happy days. If he loses he blames the weight (which incidentally came off okay for the Mormeck fight and always has come off okay) infact, has Haye ever not made weight? Does he have anymore weight making problems than hatton or Scott Harrison (had)? Or is it just that he moans about it more?

Just because he will claim a defeat was due to weight making difficulties, it doesn't mean his standing, stepping up to the heavyweight division won't be harmed severely with a defeat. Haye stands a lot to lose here

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 28 Dec 2007, 10:49

wheres that fence, i feel like a nice sit down

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 28 Dec 2007, 10:50

can't wait for this.

has to be a good fight.

2 punchers.

2 not so great chins.

it can't fail to be explosive.

haye early.

too quick on the draw.

The Blade · Post by **The Blade** » 28 Dec 2007, 10:53

Wales wrote:
Terry D wrote:
Wales wrote:Hasnt Enzo signed his half of the contract 3 times though? Only for allegedly to want options etc... so Hayes camp have refused?
There is refusing to do something and having the rug pulled out from under you by the demands of the other party.

Do you think Haye bottled it from Enzo by going the traditional route, working the WBC rankings and then getting the real titles abroad? All while Enzo has been in Wales whinging until the titles are delivered to him?

Enzo has been a right divvy in regards to this clash. Haye's heart and desire have made this clash bigger than it once was.
not disputing why Haye hasnt fought, I can imagine the options etc... were a joke. All Im saying is the comment by Enzo is in relation to him having signed a couple of times and haye / his managment not wanting to. I genuinley believe both fighters have wanted the fight to happen.

I wouldn't mind betting there are no options. Both sides confident they can win it.

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 28 Dec 2007, 10:54

Terry D wrote:
I like Enzo but feel that his attitude in the immediate aftermath of Haye-Mormeck was mealey-mouthed. Constant digs at Haye for not fighting him when Haye went out and conquered Europe and the World in a more traditional fashion. He didn't get a retired title then defend it against a mismatch of challengers whilst all while sitting in the wings doing a 'Whatever happened to Baby Haye' as Haye took hold of the division.

Not a million miles from the "our ricky" and Mayweather situation there.

ArtOfWar · Post by **ArtOfWar** » 28 Dec 2007, 11:00

The Blade wrote:Perhaps this news silences the tedious bleatings of the stuck record brigade on this site who suggest allegedly allegedly overly protects his fighters. This proves, with the greatest of respect, on the back of Calzaghe-Kessler that these critics are spouting arrant nonsense (nice words for bollocks). Now we have a fight that everybody has been calling for, so why not give FW a little credit for having the balls to put it on.

Are you being serious?

FW is notorious for protecting his fighters to much, but now he makes a couple of big fights and it's not true what everyone has been saying for years.

There is no doubt that Calzaghe/Kessler and now Haye/Enzo are two big fights made by FW, but that doesn't make the past disappear. With that being said, no one has 'suggested' FW overly protects his fighters, it's a fact.

This is gonna be a great match up though, and someone will almost certainly get knocked out.

Big Pussy · Post by **Big Pussy** » 28 Dec 2007, 11:03

Haye is going to cream Macca early...Haye KO4

Poncey · Post by **Poncey** » 28 Dec 2007, 11:06

Terry D wrote:
Wales wrote:
Terry D wrote:
I like Enzo but feel that his attitude in the immediate aftermath of Haye-Mormeck was mealey-mouthed. Constant digs at Haye for not fighting him when Haye went out and conquered Europe and the World in a more traditional fashion. He didn't get a retired title then defend it against a mismatch of challengers whilst all while sitting in the wings doing a 'Whatever happened to Baby Haye' as Haye took hold of the division.
Not a million miles from the "our ricky" and Mayweather situation there.
Not really, Hatton beat the main man in his division then went after Mayweather, who is far more established than Haye. Tszyu is certainly no Gunn!

Spot on Terry. Enzo's nearest opponent to haye has been Briathwaite whoi was durable but not in the Bell/Mormeck league really.

I lost a lot of respect for Enzo in the studio after the Mormeck fight and gained a lot for Haye after he made the offer to Enzo when he had everything to lose and nothing to gain.

I like Enzo, but I'll be cheering Haye on fo' sure!

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 28 Dec 2007, 11:09

WHAT a fight.
I hope Haye makes the weight ok, he should do really, as he's not going to have done a lot of growing since making cruiser for the Mormeck fight.

And of course Warren over protects his fighters: just look at all those wasted Calzaghe years. But credit were it's due, he's made the fight that UK fans have been dreaming about. BBC world just ran a report on it.
Well done Frank, and huge credit to Haye for sticking around to make this happen.

It'll be hard to sell ads between rounds for this one, as it could well be over inside a round.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 28 Dec 2007, 11:18

jamesmcdonnell wrote:I always give credit where it is due. I would point out however that SN have a lot to gain for their man should he win, given that Haye is virtually the undisputed champion.

The timing, as mentioned earlier is also in Macca's favour.

I have no doubt this fight had it's difficulties in the making, and yes, I'm glad it's happened, but I am not going to get too effusive, given that it gives SN a chance to get all the belts at cruiserweight for Enzo, it's not like they are offering Haye a shot at the belts is it?

Haye doesn't need this fight at all, he's got the belts, and could take a nice easy defence before moving up. If anyone deserves the praise in my book, it's Haye and his management.

I generally agree, but had Haye made a routine defence then sorry, he would have been lambasted by lay fans and boxing journo's... and sorry, deservedly so.

Haye's time as a Cruiserweight is limited - imagine had he said No to Enzo cause of the weight and then carried on fighting at the weight.

E · Post by E » 28 Dec 2007, 11:27

Ii think we should stop moaning and just all be thankful one of the best fights out there has been made..........