Macca V Haye is on - in March!!

[yiddo14]

I like Enzo but feel that his attitude in the immediate aftermath of Haye-Mormeck was mealey-mouthed. Constant digs at Haye for not fighting him when Haye went out and conquered Europe and the World in a more traditional fashion. He didn't get a retired title then defend it against a mismatch of challengers whilst all while sitting in the wings doing a 'Whatever happened to Baby Haye' as Haye took hold of the division.

Not a million miles from the "our ricky" and Mayweather situation there.

Bit harsh on Hatton(I see the comparison, but Ricky operated at a MUCH, MUCH higher level than Enzo has been)

The outcome will be the same.
I honestly think Enzo is tailormade for Haye.
the Hayemaker loves stand up tall fighters.

[yiddo14]

this is bullsh*t. Very disappointed in haye. If he loses, not only his career derailed, but then enzo is undisputed champ and the titles are held hostage with sports network.

I actually think Haye's shell will lose. well done david for flushing your career down the pan and depriving british boxing fans of the chance to see you take heavyweight by storm.

So much for a 'fight for the fans'. I thought haye was more intelligent than this.

Come on mate!

I understand you are a Haye fan(me too )and don't want to see your man take a bad career move, but even a 70% David Haye is miles better than anything Enzo has ever faced, in both a pro or amateur ring.

Haye is taking a risk because thats what he is about, and thats why in 20 years, British boxing fans will hold him in much higher regard than the likes of Enzo Maccarenalli(who is a very good fighter)

Haye is a throwback fighter.
Forget the excuses, make the big fights happen, and then win em

Haye all the way in this one

[Autobarn]

FFS, Haye was good enough at 200lb's to beat the undisputed champion less than 2 months ago, and now he's a shell of a fighter that can barely stand up? Give over. I'll say it again: Haye has taken the fight, he obviously believes he can win. Stop whinging.

it's so obvious why the fight was made and how it's going to go. be realistic, eh?

Mormeck was an ageing fighter. Mac is in his prime. Mac can't win at the top level properly - who do they aim so low fighting the likes of Gunn, Heinechen, and Sellers (called off, thank fvck) - so they have to do brilliant handicapping.

Hang on there Autobarn.... you say that Mac cannot win at the top level properly - okay.... but then Haye only beat an aging fighter.... can he win at the top level properly?

You may think you have caught me out with some kind of double standard. Haye did well in what he promised was his last fight at the weight to KO Mormeck. It looked an even fight with one guy outgrown the division and apparently drained, the other having class but getting on a bit.

I expect less of Haye in there in the next fight, vs a prime Mac who makes the weight easy. I was impressed with Mac's boxing last year but it looks from the matchmaking that there isn't great confidence in his abilities - each opponent is either crap, sub-world class or has some big factor going against him. Enzo got his "title" via the backdoor, improved under Enzo Calzaghe, but he needed the Haye fight otherwise what would he be doing for the next 5 years? Would Enzo take a gamble, give in to someone's conditions, in order to improve his reputation?

Looking at Calzaghe's wasted career (i.e. the first 15 or so defenses) makes me a pessimist.

I expect Enzo to break Haye down. This fight is being offered on a silver platter. No, I won't give him too much credit when he's never been in a 50-50 fight.

[E]

Anyone seen any odds posted yet?

The betting will be very interesting........

[n1ebf]

this fight will still be getting made next September I reckon. Something's bound to scupper it.

personally I'd back Enzo as apart from a huge punch I don't think Haye brings massive amounts of skill particularly. I think Enzo will stay with him in the early rounds then gradually start to break Haye down.

Bit disappointed that both see fit to compare their fight with Eubank-Benn, like they've had the same coaching in that department. Personally I see no such similarities myself..............

equally as moronic was the comment attributed to Warren, namely "If there's one fight I'd buy a ticket to it's this one"...............what does that make me some kind of idiot.......I've bought tickets to loads of boxing matches.

Haye looked very vulnerable early against Mormeck which was a little disappointing considering how great he's always saying he is, but fair play he did the job, and in his defence he admitted before the fight it could go with the punch. On the back of that performance I see no reason whatsoever why Maccarinelli can't get to him in exactly the same way.

[Wales]

I like Enzo but feel that his attitude in the immediate aftermath of Haye-Mormeck was mealey-mouthed. Constant digs at Haye for not fighting him when Haye went out and conquered Europe and the World in a more traditional fashion. He didn't get a retired title then defend it against a mismatch of challengers whilst all while sitting in the wings doing a 'Whatever happened to Baby Haye' as Haye took hold of the division.

Not a million miles from the "our ricky" and Mayweather situation there.

Bit harsh on Hatton(I see the comparison, but Ricky operated at a MUCH, MUCH higher level than Enzo has been)

The outcome will be the same.
I honestly think Enzo is tailormade for Haye.
the Hayemaker loves stand up tall fighters.

Yes, and Mayweather has operated at a much much higher level than Haye. If Enzo is being slated for looking to secure the biggest fight out there for him by goading his opponent then surely Ricky has done the same? What was left for either other than Haye & mayweather?
Also, pre Mayweather and aside from Tszyu Ricky hadnt really satisfied the fans at all, had he? Urango, Maussa, an ageing lightweight / Super featherweight in castillo and before Tszyu a whole host of bizzare and varying sub standard fighters.
Fighters do what they have to do to secure the big fights, if that means goading on national TV, then so be it.

"Youve just seen more excitment in those 4 round than in the whole of floyds career" - that must've been a pre planned. And I'd imagine Enzo having his dig was pre planned too.

[Rocky Balboa]

What a start to 2008 it's going to be!

I know tickets will sell like hot cakes when they go on sale, but this is one I really want to go to!

I hope Haye wins & wins by KO/TKO. Think it's fair to say it won't be going the distance!

Anyone heard anything about the venue for the fight?

[Rocky Balboa]

What a start to 2008 it's going to be!

I know tickets will sell like hot cakes when they go on sale, but this is one I really want to go to!

I hope Haye wins & wins by KO/TKO. Think it's fair to say it won't be going the distance!

Anyone heard anything about the venue for the fight?

[JCB123]

I can't stand FW but he has in my opinion delivered a fight that favours his SN fighter.

I personally like Enzo & i think he has the slight advantage over Haye (previously mentioned within the thread).

I see fireworks in this one, with Enzo finally putting closure on this bullshit by KO'ing Haye within 8.

...... but then we are left with a situation where FW & SN can hold the titles hostage!!

.... i just wish some other British promoters would smash the SN monopoly on British talent!!!

[GlobalBox]

Anyone seen any odds posted yet?

The betting will be very interesting........

Best prices at the moment

8/11 HAYE (BET365) - STAN JAMES 4/7
5/4 MACCARINELLI (STAN JAMES) - BET 365 EVS

[stujones]

it's so obvious why the fight was made and how it's going to go. be realistic, eh?

Mormeck was an ageing fighter. Mac is in his prime. Mac can't win at the top level properly - who do they aim so low fighting the likes of Gunn, Heinechen, and Sellers (called off, thank fvck) - so they have to do brilliant handicapping.

Hang on there Autobarn.... you say that Mac cannot win at the top level properly - okay.... but then Haye only beat an aging fighter.... can he win at the top level properly?

You may think you have caught me out with some kind of double standard. Haye did well in what he promised was his last fight at the weight to KO Mormeck. It looked an even fight with one guy outgrown the division and apparently drained, the other having class but getting on a bit.

I expect less of Haye in there in the next fight, vs a prime Mac who makes the weight easy. I was impressed with Mac's boxing last year but it looks from the matchmaking that there isn't great confidence in his abilities - each opponent is either crap, sub-world class or has some big factor going against him. Enzo got his "title" via the backdoor, improved under Enzo Calzaghe, but he needed the Haye fight otherwise what would he be doing for the next 5 years? Would Enzo take a gamble, give in to someone's conditions, in order to improve his reputation?

Looking at Calzaghe's wasted career (i.e. the first 15 or so defenses) makes me a pessimist.

I expect Enzo to break Haye down. This fight is being offered on a silver platter. No, I won't give him too much credit when he's never been in a 50-50 fight.

And if he beats Haye - he beats the man in the devision and deserve the credit for doing it.... Just like Haye did when he beat the old man Mormeck - you called Braithwaite a part time fight... Tell me, when did Mormeck last fight (pre Haye) and when did Braithwaite (pre Mac). Aint saying Braithwaite is a the greatest, but he was a credible world champion. Now I hate Warren's dealings with the WBO interim status - but come on, Johnny Nelson's knees were gone and he retired.... Nothing really back door about that. Even if Enzo Mac would have chinned him - then of course it would have been 40 year old Nelson.

[nickd]

Jesus I cannot believe anyone is lambasting this matchup. Get a grip of yourselves!

[Syntax Error]

There is refusing to do something and having the rug pulled out from under you by the demands of the other party.

Do you think Haye bottled it from Enzo by going the traditional route, working the WBC rankings and then getting the real titles abroad? All while Enzo has been in Wales whinging until the titles are delivered to him?

Enzo has been a right divvy in regards to this clash. Haye's heart and desire have made this clash bigger than it once was.

not disputing why Haye hasnt fought, I can imagine the options etc... were a joke. All Im saying is the comment by Enzo is in relation to him having signed a couple of times and haye / his managment not wanting to. I genuinley believe both fighters have wanted the fight to happen.

I like Enzo but feel that his attitude in the immediate aftermath of Haye-Mormeck was mealey-mouthed. Constant digs at Haye for not fighting him when Haye went out and conquered Europe and the World in a more traditional fashion. He didn't get a retired title then defend it against a mismatch of challengers whilst all while sitting in the wings doing a 'Whatever happened to Baby Haye' as Haye took hold of the division.

Haye has been a bit unlucky in general. Prior to his title fight people on here talked up Mormeck as King Kong, despite him looking jaded in his most recent fights, then talked him down the moment Haye won.

A jaded Mormeck is far ahead of Enzo's opposition and Haye did things the right way. He could have jibbed off to America as their next heavyweight hope but instead stayed fit in order to give Enzo this fight.

In my perspective it has been all leg-work from Haye and complaining from Enzo.

Absolutely spot on.

Maccarinelli has been a pro a lot longer than Haye. It is HE that should have found out where his wife keeps his passport & gone out & conquered the big boys in the CW division.

Like you say, Haye has done all the leg work & Maccarinelli is just piggy backing Haye & hoping for a quick way to glory.

Saying that; even though I think Enzo has not earned the right, I do believe that it has the potential to be one of the most exciting British fights ever.

[Autobarn]

Sports Network and monopoly - very bad news.

Ah well, at least someone else can fight for the titles, because can anyone see Enzo defending WBA and WBC crowns?

Please knock him the fvck out, Haye.

[Syntax Error]

Sports Network and monopoly - very bad news.

Ah well, at least someone else can fight for the titles, because can anyone see Enzo defending WBA and WBC crowns?

Please knock him the fvck out, Haye.

Unless he can defend them at the Millennium stadium against D- fighters, then no.

He'll be stripped of both of those belts within days of beating Haye (if he does) & he'll cling onto his WBO belt for the next 8 or 9 years.

[glahn]

I hope Haye wins, but I feel he's making a mistake by staying at cruiserweight.

[Wales]

Hatton and Haye are more akin in that they both went a more traditional route, in the case of Hatton eventually, to get their dream fights.


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Would that be the 17 WBU title defence traditional route before having Frank stack all the odds in his favour to fight the "inactive" tszyu? Took ricky what? 38 fights to fight "the man" - give enzo his credit where its due, he's fighting the man a damned site quicker.

GO ENZO.

[BO Selecta]

Woo-Hoo, COME ON ENZO!

An all-British title fight between Enzo Maccarinelli and David Haye has been confirmed for 8 March.
Swansea's Maccarinelli last fought on the Joe Calzaghe-Mikkel Kessler undercard in November, stopping Mohamed Azzaoui in the fourth round.

Londoner Haye had to get up from the canvas to sensationally stop Jean Marc Mormeck in the seventh round and claim the WBC and WBA titles in November.

Maccarinelli said: "I'm delighted that Haye has finally put pen to paper."

What's up with F rank Warren, putting Maccarinelli in with someone that will hit him back?

Is Bobby Gunn not available in March? :P

Was Bobby Gunn that short, fat, useless lump that Warren brought over to Wales for Macca to knock over, last year?

That was one of the most pathetic fights I've ever seen!

If Gunn is indicative of they type of opponent that Macca has been feasting on, then he's in for a world of trouble against Haye!!!!

[stujones]

Sorry, Terry D - you misread me. I was comparing Haye and Mormeck - not Mormeck and Braithwaite. Should Enzo beat Haye he deserve credit.

Seems Autobarn isn't going to consider this a geniune match up cause Haye is apparently "dead at the weight". This is all being judged on a 2 minute Heavyweight debut vs an average fighter.

I agree that Mormeck is better than Braithwaite - he showed this, but Braithwaite is no semi pro BUM that Autobarn has potrayed him as. He was more active than Mormeck.

Looks like Enzo Mac will have the same problem as Floyd Mayweather - always have the critics no matter who he fights.

[yiddo14]

Sorry, Terry D - you misread me. I was comparing Haye and Mormeck - not Mormeck and Braithwaite. Should Enzo beat Haye he deserve credit.

Seems Autobarn isn't going to consider this a geniune match up cause Haye is apparently "dead at the weight". This is all being judged on a 2 minute Heavyweight debut vs an average fighter.

I agree that Mormeck is better than Braithwaite - he showed this, but Braithwaite is no semi pro BUM that Autobarn has potrayed him as. He was more active than Mormeck.

Looks like Enzo Mac will have the same problem as Floyd Mayweather - always have the critics no matter who he fights .

If Macca beats Haye, he deserves credit of course, BUT the point being made is, Haye has done all the hard work thus far in this little episode.

A great point was made above about Enzo and if he was Argentinian(or any other nationality bar British or maybe American)
No one would give the slightest feck about this fight being made.

In terms of their careers, Enzo has been fed with the silver spoon thus far, whereas Haye has had it pretty hard, and everything he has gained so far has been all his own doing.

May the best man win(I KNOW who the better boxer of the two is )and I hope both have a successful career after this little episode is all wrapped up

[Dioufy]

No disrespect to Enzo Maccarinelli or his fans meant in this post whatsoever, but I can't see past David Haye knocking out Enzo within eight rounds. He's faster to the punch, a lot more classy, has the better accuracy and for me, has the better chin. And with both men being big hitters I can't see this going past 10 rounds, thus taking away one of Enzo's best attributes - his stamina.

And, I don't see Haye having a problem to make the weight against Enzo because last time out when he faced Jean Marc Mormeck he was coming down from 220lbs after fighting at heavyweaight. That's also not forgetting that he has said that he has trained everyday since the Mormeck fight.

David Haye TKO 7th for me.

[jeej]

Perhaps this news silences the tedious bleatings of the stuck record brigade on this site who suggest allegedly allegedly overly protects his fighters. This proves, with the greatest of respect, on the back of Calzaghe-Kessler that these critics are spouting arrant nonsense (nice words for bollocks). Now we have a fight that everybody has been calling for, so why not give FW a little credit for having the balls to put it on.

Ha ha, you joker! So an aging Calzaghe, after a record number of defences, FINALLY fights Kessler (a fighter half the world weren't even familiar with, even if he was pretty good) and NOW FW is a legend?! It's like waiting for a bloody lunar eclipse, but I suppose some people are easily pleased.

[harrygreb]

its got to be haye...but enzo's stamina..ok enzo wins by
late sto...hmm haye's fought way higher opposition and looks a class above macca...yes its david haye for me..but he well be tight at
the weight...hhmmm...think i'll stay on this fence

[nickd]

Anything can happen which is what makes it such a good fight. Haye is never going to be a dead cert against anyone who can whack like Maccarinelli can. You'd have to edge towards him slightly but I think it's a tough one to pick.

[dbf]

Wow. This is great, the fight is on, but already the board is spilt on who they want to win!

When was the last time we had to British world champs facing off and causing a divide of fans?

Three months doesn't seem long enough to speculate, discuss and fantasise about the possible outcomes.

I am still watching the Mayweather Hatton fight about 3 times a day, and am worried I am slightly obsessed. This fight should have thinking about something else untill March.

I can't wait and will buying tickets as soon as they go on sale.

GO HAYE!