Lame excuses from Hatton getting old...be a man fight Witter

josh fg · Post by **josh fg** » 01 Jan 2008, 20:41

Cannibal wrote:
WildWaylon wrote:
Cannibal wrote: Of course there is a difference. Mayweather was P4P #1, a five weight world champion and recognized by millions. A lot of his bad mouthing is all very pantomime as well. I mean who takes his rapper bad boy image seriously? There was more to it than money when fighting Mayweather. There would of been a LOT of prestige to go along with a win and it would of immortalised Hatton's name.

Witter is a Bradford fighter who has had a solid career but very few have even heard of him. All Hatton has to gain from fighting Witter is yet another title belt and a decent live gate maybe. There is no reason for Hatton to take the fight if he doesn't want it. Malignaggi woul probably be an equal risk style wise but would be a much more lucrative fight for Hatton. Hatton is very intelligent when it comes to career planning. If Witter was in Mayweathers position, the fight would of happened years ago but he's not. He's just an obscure Bradford world champion that Hatton can afford to ignore. In 20 years time when looking back at Hatton I suspect you won't find many saying "Well, he didn't fight Junior Witter."
We all know why Ricky fought Mayweather - To say Witter is just a Bradford fighter and to suggest he is obscure is to my mind a very unfair assessment of him - He does hold the most recognised belt and that alone should be reason enough to persue him - It would have huge British interest, and lets be honest Hatton doesnt need the money anyway - The Americans have enough of their own domestic dustups so why shouldnt we have ours - Sorry mate I still believe Witter is the fight Ricky should go for.
Since when do belts count for anything? They are just a means to an end to securing big money fights these days.

And you're right, Hatton does have enough money so why does he have to waste training on an obscure fighter from Bradford.

I'm not sure if belts mean that much but wins against Salvatore Battaglia, Lovemore N'dou, Andreas Kotelnik, Colin Lynes, DeMarcus Corley and Vivian Harris rank allong side anything that hatton has done at the weight with the possible acception of Kosta who was getting on when they fought.

SticknMove · Post by **SticknMove** » 01 Jan 2008, 20:56

There can be little doubt that the only meaningful fight out there for Hatton is a face-off with Witter. People will obviously point towards viably lucrative options but he should concentrate on cleaning up at LWW and cement a legacy there. He should forget about DLH, Mosley, Cotto and/or a PBF return because he just isn't good enough for them. He is a very good world class fighter at one weight.

josh fg · Post by **josh fg** » 01 Jan 2008, 21:04

SticknMove wrote:There can be little doubt that the only meaningful fight out there for Hatton is a face-off with Witter. People will obviously point towards viably lucrative options but he should concentrate on cleaning up at LWW and cement a legacy there. He should forget about DLH, Mosley, Cotto and/or a PBF return because he just isn't good enough for them. He is a very good world class fighter at one weight.

As I have said Witter should remove the doubt as to weather he is the only one, he should chase unification fights, preferably in the USA and make that fight happen

Mooresy · Post by **Mooresy** » 02 Jan 2008, 09:50

StepinFetchit wrote:Vicky Fatton won't fight Jnr Witter because him and his b^tch are still crying & being sick over the beatdown PBF gave him, Fatton is lucky PBF did not go through with his promise to make Vicky his "Hoe" or maybe demand Fatton hand over his girl 4 one night so she could know what it was like to get done by a real man for once.

Vicky Fatton is terrified that after Jnr Witter Knocks him TFO all the retarded Man City fans will rush his house and demand all their money back after being taken for a ride.

Twat. Stop hiding behind ur keyboard, or Jnr Witter's cock, and get a life.

StepinFetchit · Post by **StepinFetchit** » 02 Jan 2008, 09:51

Mooresy wrote:
StepinFetchit wrote:Vicky Fatton won't fight Jnr Witter because him and his b^tch are still crying & being sick over the beatdown PBF gave him, Fatton is lucky PBF did not go through with his promise to make Vicky his "Hoe" or maybe demand Fatton hand over his girl 4 one night so she could know what it was like to get done by a real man for once.

Vicky Fatton is terrified that after Jnr Witter Knocks him TFO all the retarded Man City fans will rush his house and demand all their money back after being taken for a ride.
Twat. Stop hiding behind ur keyboard, or Jnr Witter's cock, and get a life.

Fook off c^nt.

Mooresy · Post by **Mooresy** » 02 Jan 2008, 09:54

StepinFetchit wrote:
Mooresy wrote:
StepinFetchit wrote:Vicky Fatton won't fight Jnr Witter because him and his b^tch are still crying & being sick over the beatdown PBF gave him, Fatton is lucky PBF did not go through with his promise to make Vicky his "Hoe" or maybe demand Fatton hand over his girl 4 one night so she could know what it was like to get done by a real man for once.

Vicky Fatton is terrified that after Jnr Witter Knocks him TFO all the retarded Man City fans will rush his house and demand all their money back after being taken for a ride.
Twat. Stop hiding behind ur keyboard, or Jnr Witter's cock, and get a life.
Fook off c^nt.

Nice one.

StepinFetchit · Post by **StepinFetchit** » 02 Jan 2008, 09:56

Mooresy wrote:
StepinFetchit wrote:
Mooresy wrote:Twat. Stop hiding behind ur keyboard, or Jnr Witter's cock, and get a life.
Fook off c^nt.
Nice one.

What else do you want to say in reply to your stupid comment, if you don't like what i'm saying about Vicky then tell him to grow a pair, stop crying like a b!tch and fight Witter.

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 02 Jan 2008, 10:08

There's no excuse for Hatton not fighting Witter. The only reason I can think of for Hatton not fighting Witter is because he doesn't fancy his chances

Mooresy · Post by **Mooresy** » 02 Jan 2008, 10:52

StepinFetchit wrote:
Mooresy wrote:
StepinFetchit wrote: Fook off c^nt.
Nice one.
What else do you want to say in reply to your stupid comment, if you don't like what i'm saying about Vicky then tell him to grow a pair, stop crying like a b!tch and fight Witter.

Listen mate, the only shithouse I can see around here is you, your prob just jealous coz Hatton's done well for himself and u don't like him. Like him or not he provided more entertainment, regardless of the opposition, to thousands of fans time and time again, for the last 5-6 years. They have enjoyed every single night. When he was fighting at the M.E.N. it was more of an occasion than just a boxing match, and that can only be good for our sport. I would like to see him fight Witter 2(obviously not as obssesively as u

), but understand that he doesn't want 2 line his pockets because he dislikes him so much, and Witter can't make that sort of money anywhere else. If the the fight happens, great. If it doesn't, it's not the end of the world.(maybe for u???)

Lenny · Post by **Lenny** » 02 Jan 2008, 10:58

Why the hatred for Witter from Hatton Mooresy? Can't just be down to the Thaxton fight surely, they must have run into each other since then?

Mooresy · Post by **Mooresy** » 02 Jan 2008, 11:05

No of course not, think that was the start. Most of it is behind the scene stuff, but he definately wasn't on the christmas card list!

oliverfennell · Post by **oliverfennell** » 02 Jan 2008, 11:09

If Hatton fights and beats Malignaggi, how many days will he hold on to the IBF belt for this time?

Actually, I don't blame him for dropping it last time, it was all the IBF's fault, but beating Malignaggi serves very little purpose. Picking up a title he's RELINQUISHED twice, against guys who only got the belt because Hatton dropped it, is an exercise in treading water.

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 02 Jan 2008, 11:18

Terry D wrote:This Steppin' fellow seems to be obsessed with Hatton's girlfriend. Fair enough, but his idea of a romantic time seems to be watching a girl vomit then crying prfusely. That type of thing will get you arrested, the it will get you a blue-bib and a red-arse.

If you don't already have these things.

Any relation Tel, or are there lods of "Dooleys" in manchester?

oliverfennell · Post by **oliverfennell** » 02 Jan 2008, 11:22

Wales wrote:
Terry D wrote:This Steppin' fellow seems to be obsessed with Hatton's girlfriend. Fair enough, but his idea of a romantic time seems to be watching a girl vomit then crying prfusely. That type of thing will get you arrested, the it will get you a blue-bib and a red-arse.

If you don't already have these things.
Any relation Tel, or are there lods of "Dooleys" in manchester?

I was going to ask about that too. It would explain a lot.

oliverfennell · Post by **oliverfennell** » 02 Jan 2008, 11:37

Terry D wrote:
oliverfennell wrote:
Wales wrote: Any relation Tel, or are there lods of "Dooleys" in manchester?
I was going to ask about that too. It would explain a lot.
Such as? I'm no Max, I'm just not prepared to tar and feather the guy for fighting the best in the world at this point. Plus could see the logic of recent fights in this regard.

Nope, not related.

Well, I've only ever heard of two Dooleys in my life, and both of them are Ricky Hatton's girlfriend! ;)

JK mate

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 02 Jan 2008, 11:53

Do you own that drinks firm then tel?

WildWaylon · Post by **WildWaylon** » 02 Jan 2008, 12:03

Mooresy wrote:No of course not, think that was the start. Most of it is behind the scene stuff, but he definately wasn't on the christmas card list!

Jamie, Shouldnt Ricky forget his personal vendetta with Witter, after all this time - Its Hattons best fight and a way to (a)shut Witter up (b) prove beyond all doubt he is the best LWW (c) Give his fans a home fight against the opponent we all want to see him against - Lets be honest Ricky couldnt have made the money he did against anyone else other than Mayweather but PBF gave him a massive payday - By the way has a date been fixed for your fight that had to be cancelled?

oliverfennell · Post by **oliverfennell** » 02 Jan 2008, 12:07

WildWaylon wrote:
Mooresy wrote:No of course not, think that was the start. Most of it is behind the scene stuff, but he definately wasn't on the christmas card list!
Jamie, Shouldnt Ricky forget his personal vendetta with Witter, after all this time - Its Hattons best fight and a way to (a)shut Witter up (b) prove beyond all doubt he is the best LWW (c) Give his fans a home fight against the opponent we all want to see him against - Lets be honest Ricky couldnt have made the money he did against anyone else other than Mayweather but PBF gave him a massive payday - By the way has a date been fixed for your fight that had to be cancelled?

Also, PBF only fought Ricky because Ricky goaded him into it. What's the difference here? If he genuinely believes he can beat Witter, you'd think he'd relish the opportunity to do so. After all, actions speak louder than words.

josh fg · Post by **josh fg** » 02 Jan 2008, 12:21

Mooresy wrote:
StepinFetchit wrote:Vicky Fatton won't fight Jnr Witter because him and his b^tch are still crying & being sick over the beatdown PBF gave him, Fatton is lucky PBF did not go through with his promise to make Vicky his "Hoe" or maybe demand Fatton hand over his girl 4 one night so she could know what it was like to get done by a real man for once.

Vicky Fatton is terrified that after Jnr Witter Knocks him TFO all the retarded Man City fans will rush his house and demand all their money back after being taken for a ride.
Twat. Stop hiding behind ur keyboard, or Jnr Witter's cock, and get a life.

As a fellow profesional you can't think that hatton is in the right denying a credible opponent a pay day. It seems like an excuse to me cos he doesn't think he'd fair well against witter's style. If not and he realy does want to deny another profesional a pay day then he is acting a bit of a prick both toward Witter and toward boxing fans and needs to grow up.

oliverfennell · Post by **oliverfennell** » 02 Jan 2008, 13:06

Terry D wrote:
oliverfennell wrote:
WildWaylon wrote: Jamie, Shouldnt Ricky forget his personal vendetta with Witter, after all this time - Its Hattons best fight and a way to (a)shut Witter up (b) prove beyond all doubt he is the best LWW (c) Give his fans a home fight against the opponent we all want to see him against - Lets be honest Ricky couldnt have made the money he did against anyone else other than Mayweather but PBF gave him a massive payday - By the way has a date been fixed for your fight that had to be cancelled?
Also, PBF only fought Ricky because Ricky goaded him into it. What's the difference here? If he genuinely believes he can beat Witter, you'd think he'd relish the opportunity to do so. After all, actions speak louder than words.
People say that. Then again if you had a verbal debate and was winning only for the other person to smack you in the nose that saying would do you up like a kipper!

Now I know what to do next time we disagree about something!

banjo · Post by **banjo** » 02 Jan 2008, 14:16

Stepinbullshit obviously has a problem with hatton, its called jealously he cant handle the fact someone he hates is doing alright for himself and has to vent his frustrations on here.

rooney · Post by **rooney** » 02 Jan 2008, 14:23

Mooresy wrote:
StepinFetchit wrote:
Mooresy wrote:Nice one.
What else do you want to say in reply to your stupid comment, if you don't like what i'm saying about Vicky then tell him to grow a pair, stop crying like a b!tch and fight Witter.
Listen mate, the only shithouse I can see around here is you, your prob just jealous coz Hatton's done well for himself and u don't like him. Like him or not he provided more entertainment, regardless of the opposition, to thousands of fans time and time again, for the last 5-6 years. They have enjoyed every single night. When he was fighting at the M.E.N. it was more of an occasion than just a boxing match, and that can only be good for our sport. I would like to see him fight Witter 2(obviously not as obssesively as u ), but understand that he doesn't want 2 line his pockets because he dislikes him so much, and Witter can't make that sort of money anywhere else. If the the fight happens, great. If it doesn't, it's not the end of the world.(maybe for u???)

Respect your opinion Jamie, but I feel very strongly that the fans have contributed greatly to Ricky's success, and for that reason I believe Ricky should fight Junior in the near future. It's the fight they want.....

WildWaylon · Post by **WildWaylon** » 02 Jan 2008, 14:39

Terry D wrote:
oliverfennell wrote:
Terry D wrote: Such as? I'm no Max, I'm just not prepared to tar and feather the guy for fighting the best in the world at this point. Plus could see the logic of recent fights in this regard.

Nope, not related.
Well, I've only ever heard of two Dooleys in my life, and both of them are Ricky Hatton's girlfriend! ;)

JK mate

I'm afraid not Wales, it is a poncy liqueur isn't it?

I think there are a few Dooley's in the NW. A good few Terence Dooley's in general around the world. They were said to be a swarthy warrior tribe who lived in the hills around southern Ireland.

There are more Dolan's (my mums maiden name) about these parts.

Christ, I bet your mum got a bit confused writing her name for a while after marrying your dad.

StepinFetchit · Post by **StepinFetchit** » 02 Jan 2008, 16:12

Mooresy wrote:
StepinFetchit wrote:
Mooresy wrote:Nice one.
What else do you want to say in reply to your stupid comment, if you don't like what i'm saying about Vicky then tell him to grow a pair, stop crying like a b!tch and fight Witter.
Listen mate, the only shithouse I can see around here is you, your prob just jealous coz Hatton's done well for himself and u don't like him. Like him or not he provided more entertainment, regardless of the opposition, to thousands of fans time and time again, for the last 5-6 years. They have enjoyed every single night. When he was fighting at the M.E.N. it was more of an occasion than just a boxing match, and that can only be good for our sport. I would like to see him fight Witter 2(obviously not as obssesively as u ), but understand that he doesn't want 2 line his pockets because he dislikes him so much, and Witter can't make that sort of money anywhere else. If the the fight happens, great. If it doesn't, it's not the end of the world.(maybe for u???)

You know what, i have no desire to start writing sh!t about you.....like at least in a couple of years time you will still have a job carrying Amirs spit bucket ect,ect i don't know you, and as a fighter you are value for money and don't come across like thinking your something your not.

I like PBF and other fighters that have had more money than Hatton could dream of so envy has nothing to do with it.

Like most on here i don't know Hatton either, you do so u are blinded.....same way you will be with Khan.

I don't like his cheating fighting style or the bullshite that comes out his mouth...couldn't Billy "The Chainsmoker" Graham of taught Hatton to double jab for once in his life instead of hit-&-hold....hit-&-hold...now repeat...

All that matters to me is seeing who is the best LWW in the Country.

No fookin way should ANY fighter be awarded the luxury of being able to say he doesn't want to fight his arch rival because he doesn't want to give out a payday or because the bloke verbally insulted him.....i am of the oppinion this is what makes fights......Hatton is a boxer, not a fookin governing body...he's already had his fair share of handpicked opponants.

I beleive the real reason Hatton does not want to fight Witter is because he knows deep down Witter could very well beat him & after all thats been said if he got beat by Witter now it would cast a mega shadow over his career.

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 03 Jan 2008, 06:11

Terry D wrote:
There are more Dolans (my mum's maiden name) about these parts.

Are the famous crime family from Manchester the Dolans? (not suggesting your Mother is of the same family)