Who's the boxer in Big Brother

oliverfennell · Post by **oliverfennell** » 03 Jan 2008, 05:42

Not that I give even the slightest toss about the show, but I just noticed in today's Metro there's a boxer in the line-up, but the article didn't say his name. He looked familiar but I couldn't place him.

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 03 Jan 2008, 05:44

There was a rumour scott harrison was going in, but that was some 2 months ago and I doubt it was true. Is there a pic of him in the metro?

oliverfennell · Post by **oliverfennell** » 03 Jan 2008, 05:46

Wales wrote:There was a rumour scott harrison was going in, but that was some 2 months ago and I doubt it was true. Is there a pic of him in the metro?

Yes, he looked mixed race, maybe around middleweight region.

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 03 Jan 2008, 05:46

Anthony, 19, from Suffolk
Talent: Boxer

Anthony is an international boxer who has captained Great Britain's team in the world, European and junior Olympic tournaments. He won the junior Olympics in 2004 and was crowned world under 17 champion in 2005. He hopes to represent Great Britain in the 2008 Olympics. He says he would like to become world champion one day but also wouldn't mind becoming the first mixed race James Bond. His boxing name is 'Beautiful Brown Suga'.

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/organgrinde ... ack_n.html

oliverfennell · Post by **oliverfennell** » 03 Jan 2008, 05:54

Wales wrote:Anthony, 19, from Suffolk
Talent: Boxer

Anthony is an international boxer who has captained Great Britain's team in the world, European and junior Olympic tournaments. He won the junior Olympics in 2004 and was crowned world under 17 champion in 2005. He hopes to represent Great Britain in the 2008 Olympics. He says he would like to become world champion one day but also wouldn't mind becoming the first mixed race James Bond. His boxing name is 'Beautiful Brown Suga'.

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/organgrinde ... ack_n.html

If he wants to go to the Olympics then he'd better concentrate on that instead of getting caught up in this bollocks.

Then again, it's instant fame for him with the Heat and Star readers. The bimbos in my office might watch boxing in future if he's on the bill!

Podmore_Birmingham · Post by **Podmore_Birmingham** » 03 Jan 2008, 06:03

Sounds like that's Anthony Agogo.

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 03 Jan 2008, 06:11

Quite how he constitutes a celebrity (like the others in there) is beyond me.

EDIT: Oh, I see, proper celebs like Jimmy Carr & matt Lucas then "12 gifted young stars" in other words blow the budget on the big star and draft ina no mark, reminds me of how a certain prometion delt with a certain british boxer .

Poncey · Post by **Poncey** » 03 Jan 2008, 06:17

oliverfennell wrote:
Wales wrote:There was a rumour scott harrison was going in, but that was some 2 months ago and I doubt it was true. Is there a pic of him in the metro?
Yes, he looked mixed race, maybe around middleweight region.

Tut tut Oliver, the correct term is now "Multiracial". Keep up!

oliverfennell · Post by **oliverfennell** » 03 Jan 2008, 07:07

Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:
oliverfennell wrote:
Wales wrote:There was a rumour scott harrison was going in, but that was some 2 months ago and I doubt it was true. Is there a pic of him in the metro?
Yes, he looked mixed race, maybe around middleweight region.
Tut tut Oliver, the correct term is now "Multiracial". Keep up!

The man himself said he wanted to be the first mixed race James Bond.

And I'm mixed race myself, as I have a Welsh mum and an English dad. At least that's what my fellow Welshmen would like me to say ;) ("There should be a tick-box for Welsh under 'Ethnicity' on my census form, grumble grumble, don't make Welsh jokes, that's racist, moan moan")

Poncey · Post by **Poncey** » 03 Jan 2008, 07:36

oliverfennell wrote:
Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:
oliverfennell wrote: Yes, he looked mixed race, maybe around middleweight region.
Tut tut Oliver, the correct term is now "Multiracial". Keep up!

The man himself said he wanted to be the first mixed race James Bond.

And I'm mixed race myself, as I have a Welsh mum and an English dad. At least that's what my fellow Welshmen would like me to say ;) ("There should be a tick-box for Welsh under 'Ethnicity' on my census form, grumble grumble, don't make Welsh jokes, that's racist, moan moan")

I'm the same mate (Irish/Italian). My mates Carribean/Italian and he still refers to himself as "half-cast". I would correct him, but he's a former Amateur Champ and would kick my ass.

oliverfennell · Post by **oliverfennell** » 03 Jan 2008, 08:00

Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:
oliverfennell wrote:
Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote: Tut tut Oliver, the correct term is now "Multiracial". Keep up!

The man himself said he wanted to be the first mixed race James Bond.

And I'm mixed race myself, as I have a Welsh mum and an English dad. At least that's what my fellow Welshmen would like me to say ;) ("There should be a tick-box for Welsh under 'Ethnicity' on my census form, grumble grumble, don't make Welsh jokes, that's racist, moan moan")
I'm the same mate (Irish/Italian). My mates Carribean/Italian and he still refers to himself as "half-cast". I would correct him, but he's a former Amateur Champ and would kick my ass.

If he uses the term, then there's no problem. I've heard black and "multiracial" people use the term half-caste.

BTW I don't really consider myself mixed race, I was being facetious. Welsh people are white, not a different race. There's an argument for different nationality, but not different race. Even though I was born and raised in Wales, I still always thought and still do think it's ridiculous when Welsh people trot out the race card.

Poncey · Post by **Poncey** » 03 Jan 2008, 08:07

oliverfennell wrote:
Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:
oliverfennell wrote: The man himself said he wanted to be the first mixed race James Bond.

And I'm mixed race myself, as I have a Welsh mum and an English dad. At least that's what my fellow Welshmen would like me to say ;) ("There should be a tick-box for Welsh under 'Ethnicity' on my census form, grumble grumble, don't make Welsh jokes, that's racist, moan moan")
I'm the same mate (Irish/Italian). My mates Carribean/Italian and he still refers to himself as "half-cast". I would correct him, but he's a former Amateur Champ and would kick my ass.

If he uses the term, then there's no problem. I've heard black and "multiracial" people use the term half-caste.

BTW I don't really consider myself mixed race, I was being facetious. Welsh people are white, not a different race. There's an argument for different nationality, but not different race. Even though I was born and raised in Wales, I still always thought and still do think it's ridiculous when Welsh people trot out the race card.

Agreed mate. At the end of the day we all sht the same!

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 03 Jan 2008, 08:08

Its rich white people in Westminster who never come into contact with any minorities who tell us what the correct phrases we should be using are. Its Community Cohesion, didn't you know?

Now i'm off to vomit.

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 03 Jan 2008, 08:57

I had an English grandad and a Polish Grandad and I have a Welsh nan and Scottish nan, so at least I've got someone to cheer on in the Euros. Polska forever!!!

I was well racked off when they cancelled this years Celebrity BIG Brother, I didn't realise they'd replaced it with something similar til I read this thread. BONUS

Asterix · Post by **Asterix** » 03 Jan 2008, 10:10

Podmore_Birmingham wrote:Sounds like that's Anthony Agogo.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... 12_talents

banjaxd · Post by **banjaxd** » 03 Jan 2008, 10:17

i thought the term " dual heritage " was currently in vogue

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 03 Jan 2008, 10:23

could the term mixed race be banned on this site please as i'm getting very upset for those poor unfortunate wonderful people who have just ended up, through no fault of theirs, with a....DUAL HERITAGE.

are boxers of boxing fathers of "DUEL" HERITAGE????

my 7 year old daughter is "mixed race" - her term, "beautiful" - my term
(you all should see her you'd all agree

)

oliverfennell · Post by **oliverfennell** » 03 Jan 2008, 10:40

What exactly is offensive about the term mixed race. It's a mix of two or more races. Plain. If anybody is offended by it, it suggests it is THEY who have the problem, as if they don't want to admit to it, or are ashamed by one of their components (or heritages).

Is "dual" different to "mixed". Why so? Is "race" not an aspect of "heritage"? Is "race" an offensive word? Who so? Heritage also does not necessarily encompass race. I am mixed "heritage" but single race.

"Mixed race" is a valid description of somebody's appearance.

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 03 Jan 2008, 10:57

oliverfennell wrote:What exactly is offensive about the term mixed race. It's a mix of two or more races. Plain. If anybody is offended by it, it suggests it is THEY who have the problem, as if they don't want to admit to it, or are ashamed by one of their components (or heritages).

Is "dual" different to "mixed". Why so? Is "race" not an aspect of "heritage"? Is "race" an offensive word? Who so? Heritage also does not necessarily encompass race. I am mixed "heritage" but single race.

"Mixed race" is a valid description of somebody's appearance.

I agree, its all political correctness gone mad. What was offensive about 'Baa Baa Black Sheep' or that Black geeza on the Marmalade jars or the 'Union Jack', how these could offend anyone is beyond me

The only people that you're allowed to take the piss out of because of their natural appearance is Gingers.

oliverfennell · Post by **oliverfennell** » 03 Jan 2008, 11:31

Yeah, agree with gollywogs. They may have been used innocently on jam jars but they were originally created as a mocking stereotype of black people. I suppose the average child would not be corrupted by gollywogs, but still, the intent behind their creation was not innocent.

Poncey · Post by **Poncey** » 03 Jan 2008, 12:19

"Thought shower" is the one that gets on my pert man-boobs.

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 03 Jan 2008, 12:22

"Lets get down to the nitty gritty" is also still widely used but opposed by the PC brigade.

Poncey · Post by **Poncey** » 03 Jan 2008, 12:24

Wales wrote:"Lets get down to the nitty gritty" is also still widely used but opposed by the PC brigade.

Learn something new every day:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1988776.stm

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 03 Jan 2008, 12:28

I understood it was the slave ship theory with wealthy "slave buyers" (or whatever) using the term after the cargo etc... had been taken form the ship. "Right now thats done, lets get down to the nitty and the gritty".

Podmore_Birmingham · Post by **Podmore_Birmingham** » 03 Jan 2008, 12:40

Terry D wrote:'Picnic' is a racist word as well.

That's made my day.