COULD HAVE ROY JONES JNR HAVE BEATEN LENNOX ??

chesh · Post by **chesh** » 03 Jan 2008, 11:27

Bestimmt nicht! No effing way!

dr_devious · Post by **dr_devious** » 03 Jan 2008, 11:59

To quote Sid Waddell "hed have about as much chance as a fat mouse in a cat factory"

states · Post by **states** » 03 Jan 2008, 12:04

Yes.

Just Kidding. No chance.

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 03 Jan 2008, 12:19

dr_devious wrote:To quote Sid Waddell "hed have about as much chance as a fat mouse in a cat factory"

Sid can talk absolute drivel for hours on end, but he will eventually come out with a cracker like that

Rocky Balboa · Post by **Rocky Balboa** » 03 Jan 2008, 12:46

Never.

Even a jab, let a lone a right hand from Lennox, would have sent Jones' eyes into seperate orbits.

Lewis would have broken his jaw & priobably knocked him cold if he connected cleanly with a straight right. Wouldn't have been a pretty site!

Poncey · Post by **Poncey** » 03 Jan 2008, 12:47

I've never seen a thread where everyone agrees.

Michael Jackson was right, the world really can be a better place.

oliverfennell · Post by **oliverfennell** » 03 Jan 2008, 12:50

Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:I've never seen a thread where virtually everyone agrees.

Michael Jackson was right, the world really can be a better place.

There was a time, though, when people were backing Jones to beat Lewis. It was post-Ruiz and pre-Tarver, when Jones was being hailed by some as a GOAT contender, and post-Klitschko, when Lewis looked very ragged.

NOW we know Lewis would have annihilated Jones, but at that time above, it was seen as a live fight.

TerribleTerry · Post by **TerribleTerry** » 03 Jan 2008, 13:08

oliverfennell wrote: There was a time, though, when people were backing Jones to beat Lewis. It was post-Ruiz and pre-Tarver, when Jones was being hailed by some as a GOAT contender, and post-Klitschko, when Lewis looked very ragged.

NOW we know Lewis would have annihilated Jones, but at that time above, it was seen as a live fight.

I think its a period in his life that Claude Abrams would rather forget..

Loynesy · Post by **Loynesy** » 03 Jan 2008, 13:28

Interesting earlier post about Jones v Ruiz. I was at that fight and have always thought Ruiz needed a more lenient ref to do some decent inside work - in particular the short left upper cut, in the clinches, to RJJs body. Not sure he would have won (in fact I don't think he would have done) but anyone who says that was masterful by Jones was blinkered

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 03 Jan 2008, 13:48

Ruiz looked pretty intimidated to move in once Jones buzzed him with the right hand. The thought of being iced by a light-heavy seemed to spook him & stop him working. The ultra crap Jay Nady wasn't as massively crap in that fight as normal, IMO anyways.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 03 Jan 2008, 14:46

No, but maybe would have been a better match than some of Lewis' opponents (I don't want to sound critical - cause his resume is excellent) - what I mean is I give Jones more of a chance than say Frans Botha or Zelko Mavrovic.

josh fg · Post by **josh fg** » 03 Jan 2008, 15:40

stujones wrote:No, but maybe would have been a better match than some of Lewis' opponents (I don't want to sound critical - cause his resume is excellent) - what I mean is I give Jones more of a chance than say Frans Botha or Zelko Mavrovic.

I think befor the fight Francois Botha was a resonable opponent, having come as he did from a draw against Briggs but the result makes us think differently.

I think that Lewis could have disposed of RJJ quicker.

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 03 Jan 2008, 15:51

so who would have faired better, you've had a number of light heavys make a certain success of jumping to heavy. Michael spinks beat Larry holmes twice, and also a lumbering Conney, but i guess everyone would look at the Tyson fight for an answer. Moorer beat holyfield and had some great tearups , but again his chin would fail him, same with Bob Foster. That would lead us to Archie Moore , he beat some decent heavys , had a good chin and could punch. Out of them all he'd stand the best chance. But he still wouldn't win , IMO .

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 03 Jan 2008, 15:57

so is there a light heavy in the history of boxing that would have beaten lewis? nope

Poncey · Post by **Poncey** » 03 Jan 2008, 16:06

harrygreb wrote:so is there a light heavy in the history of boxing that would have beaten lewis? nope

Only one as a possibility springs to mind, but Lewis's height would be a big factor. Archie Moore?

dr_devious · Post by **dr_devious** » 03 Jan 2008, 18:06

The only light heavy with an earthly's against Lewis would have been Sam Langford, and even that is a long shot. Langford was superhuman, the greatest p4p ever imo. He had the power of a top heavyweight and the speed of a welterweight, he had a punchers chance with Lewis who could be knocked out.
Moore always fell short at the very highest level at HW, and wouldnt last too long with Lewis.
I always thought a Lewis-Jones fight would be a total mismatch.........Jones was a blown up MW, albeit a terrifically skilled one.

ArtOfWar · Post by **ArtOfWar** » 03 Jan 2008, 18:43

dr_devious wrote:The only light heavy with an earthly's against Lewis would have been Sam Langford, and even that is a long shot. Langford was superhuman, the greatest p4p ever imo. He had the power of a top heavyweight and the speed of a welterweight, he had a punchers chance with Lewis who could be knocked out.
Moore always fell short at the very highest level at HW, and wouldnt last too long with Lewis.
I always thought a Lewis-Jones fight would be a total mismatch.........Jones was a blown up MW, albeit a terrifically skilled one.

Sam Langford would have been absolutely destroyed by Lewis. Langford fought in a time when boxing was still developing and EVERY boxers skills were primitive compared to todays guy's. Jones himself would wipe the floor with Langford as would a whole host of others fighters. No fighter of that era would cut it in modern day boxing, not with the skills they had then. I can't believe you even said that.

Moore would have had no chance either. The man was a great technician, but didn't have the athletic ability to compensate for the size disadvantage when he went up to heavyweight. That's why he always got beat when he stepped up.

Marlin · Post by **Marlin** » 03 Jan 2008, 20:20

Ya'll Must've Forgat!!!

RJJ would whoop Lennox!!!

TerribleTerry · Post by **TerribleTerry** » 03 Jan 2008, 20:32

Marlin wrote:Ya'll Must've Forgat!!!

RJJ would whoop Lennox!!!

But,

Even Roy Jones was forced to lean back!

Lewis wins via near decapitation.

dookus · Post by **dookus** » 03 Jan 2008, 23:16

possibly in an MC battle

Greg Nicholas · Post by **Greg Nicholas** » 04 Jan 2008, 00:08

Jones jr didnt actually look v.good in the Ruiz fight, he'd need to be as fast and quick as he was in his prime at the lower weights but with even more strength (or much more strength) than he had in the Ruiz fight.. and Lewis would need to be even worse than he was against Klit..

Marlin · Post by **Marlin** » 04 Jan 2008, 00:15

Greg Nicholas wrote:Jones jr didnt actually look v.good in the Ruiz fight, he'd need to be as fast and quick as he was in his prime at the lower weights but with even more strength (or much more strength) than he had in the Ruiz fight.. and Lewis would need to be even worse than he was against Klit..

I'll take that as a YES

Greg Nicholas · Post by **Greg Nicholas** » 04 Jan 2008, 00:18

How many Eubank interviews are on therer on the net..? There are millions..! All basically saying the same jibberish as well..

Khaosai-Galaxy · Post by **Khaosai-Galaxy** » 04 Jan 2008, 02:35

Mornington Crescent

Tykemania · Post by **Tykemania** » 04 Jan 2008, 04:17

oliverfennell wrote:
Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:I've never seen a thread where virtually everyone agrees.

Michael Jackson was right, the world really can be a better place.
There was a time, though, when people were backing Jones to beat Lewis. It was post-Ruiz and pre-Tarver, when Jones was being hailed by some as a GOAT contender, and post-Klitschko, when Lewis looked very ragged.

NOW we know Lewis would have annihilated Jones, but at that time above, it was seen as a live fight.

Only by blind people who knew nothing about boxing. Or basic physics come to think of it!