Who's the boxer in Big Brother

Poncey · Post by **Poncey** » 03 Jan 2008, 12:41

livingstone cole wrote:
Terry D wrote:'Picnic' is a racist word as well.
Carefull where you quote from Terry, I think that's a myth.

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blpicnic.htm

Southpaw Stylist · Post by **Southpaw Stylist** » 03 Jan 2008, 13:46

Anthony Ogogo it is, yeah.

He's a boxer, but will NOT be representing England at the Olympics. He's not even in the current squad...The whole premise for him being on the show is fallacious...

mattym · Post by **mattym** » 03 Jan 2008, 14:37

Anthony's a good boxer

he must do some mileage if he's a boxer and lives in Suffolk though, the boxing scene here is PISS.

E · Post by E » 03 Jan 2008, 14:57

Words cannot describe how much I despise Big Brother.

But good luck to Anthony, it will raise his profile and at least he has a talent unlike the usual losers.

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 03 Jan 2008, 15:42

as i was scrolling through the posts on this thread i had a thought "i wonder how long it will be before livingstone turns up"...lo and behold there he is. i'm not having a pop as i always look forward to his posts but he can sniff a thread that mentions race a mile away. its quite funny actually.
now, i have always thought that baa baa black sheep was extolling the virtues of egalitarianism and socialism ie everyone getting the same amount no matter if youre the master or dame or little girl.

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 03 Jan 2008, 15:51

just to clarify, ollie, mixed race is thought to emphasise that the races are MIXED and therefore not standing in their own right. DUAL heritage seeks to emphasise the duality ie that both stand equal or at least in their own right. i suppose its thought that one cant celebrate a mixed cultural heritage but one can celebrate a black or white one (or whatever cultural make up you happen to wear).

E · Post by E » 03 Jan 2008, 16:34

harrygreb wrote:just to clarify, ollie, mixed race is thought to emphasise that the races are MIXED and therefore not standing in their own right. DUAL heritage seeks to emphasise the duality ie that both stand equal or at least in their own right. i suppose its thought that one cant celebrate a mixed cultural heritage but one can celebrate a black or white one (or whatever cultural make up you happen to wear).

Someone needs to put a rulebook for racial talk....it's all a little too complicated...

Or we could just get over it.....

black panther · Post by **black panther** » 03 Jan 2008, 17:50

We are all of one race - the human race!

Geez

josh fg · Post by **josh fg** » 04 Jan 2008, 06:36

Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:
oliverfennell wrote:
Wales wrote:There was a rumour scott harrison was going in, but that was some 2 months ago and I doubt it was true. Is there a pic of him in the metro?
Yes, he looked mixed race, maybe around middleweight region.
Tut tut Oliver, the correct term is now "Multiracial". Keep up!

I believe its actualy duel heratage, but as long as you don't say any of the ignorant shit (i.e. half case) then most people aren't dick heads about it in my experiance.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 04 Jan 2008, 06:42

There is nothing 'ignorant' about saying half-caste, I say it, as do all my mates, including all the black guys I grew up with, it's just what people said back then. It's not a racist term, it's just outdated is all.

It's no more racist than using the word negro, which whilst hardly considered appropriate, is not overtly racist, merely old-fashioned.

Mixed race, half-caste, etc etc, they all mean essentially the same thing, someone with white skinned and black skinned heredity.

oliverfennell · Post by **oliverfennell** » 04 Jan 2008, 06:58

harrygreb wrote:just to clarify, ollie, mixed race is thought to emphasise that the races are MIXED and therefore not standing in their own right. DUAL heritage seeks to emphasise the duality ie that both stand equal or at least in their own right. i suppose its thought that one cant celebrate a mixed cultural heritage but one can celebrate a black or white one (or whatever cultural make up you happen to wear).

OK, thanks for the clarification, at least it makes a bit more sense, but again I maintain there's nothing wrong with the races being MIXED. Of course the constituent ethnicities/heritages stand equal. That should go without saying. "Emphasising the duality" suggests there's something wrong with "only" being half of each.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 04 Jan 2008, 07:42

harrygreb wrote:just to clarify, ollie, mixed race is thought to emphasise that the races are MIXED and therefore not standing in their own right. DUAL heritage seeks to emphasise the duality ie that both stand equal or at least in their own right. i suppose its thought that one cant celebrate a mixed cultural heritage but one can celebrate a black or white one (or whatever cultural make up you happen to wear).

According to whom precisely, the thought police?

Seriously, I've no problems with people of any nation or physical differentiation but who is it precisely who decides which terms are acceptable?

I've not come across anyone ever being offended by the words mixed race. If I was talking to someone of my own age, I would use 'half-caste' as that is the term they understand, a younger person, I would say mixed-race or 'light skinned' which seems to be the term favoured by young black guys and girls when talking about mixed race people.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 04 Jan 2008, 07:48

Chambers2 wrote:
oliverfennell wrote:What exactly is offensive about the term mixed race. It's a mix of two or more races. Plain. If anybody is offended by it, it suggests it is THEY who have the problem, as if they don't want to admit to it, or are ashamed by one of their components (or heritages).

Is "dual" different to "mixed". Why so? Is "race" not an aspect of "heritage"? Is "race" an offensive word? Who so? Heritage also does not necessarily encompass race. I am mixed "heritage" but single race.

"Mixed race" is a valid description of somebody's appearance.
I agree, its all political correctness gone mad. What was offensive about 'Baa Baa Black Sheep' or that Black geeza on the Marmalade jars or the 'Union Jack', how these could offend anyone is beyond me

The only people that you're allowed to take the piss out of because of their natural appearance is Gingers.

Well, I think that the fact the 'black geezer on the jars' was a hideous paraody of a black man, and was called a 'golly-wog' should explain that.

Has anyone actually got any evidence that either black bags, blackboards or baa-baa-black sheep were ever banned?

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 04 Jan 2008, 07:57

Did anyone watch the show last night? It was one of the funniest 90 minutes of telly I've ever seen, Matt Lucas was hilarious. My ribs were aching by the end of it

(queue a load od 'BIG Brother is shite' comments)

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 04 Jan 2008, 07:58

I thought it was a load of embarrasing tripe. Even O'Leary seemed to be embarassed by it, and the forced laughter he kept bellowing to try and inject a sense of excitment and hilarity was so obvious.

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 04 Jan 2008, 08:08

jamesmcdonnell wrote:I thought it was a load of embarrasing tripe. Even O'Leary seemed to be embarassed by it, and the forced laughter he kept bellowing to try and inject a sense of excitment and hilarity was so obvious.

I've spoke to a dozen or so people this morning and they all thought it was hilarious (must be a Cannock thing). The humour was very much like Ricky Gervais's 'The Office' but I found that hilarious as well although I watched most of it thru my fingers

E · Post by E » 04 Jan 2008, 08:13

Chambers2 wrote:Did anyone watch the show last night? It was one of the funniest 90 minutes of telly I've ever seen, Matt Lucas was hilarious. My ribs were aching by the end of it

(queue a load od 'BIG Brother is shite' comments)

I would prefer to look at the contents of Heather Mills-Macartney's beadpan for 90 mins than that shite.

Did Ogogo get any airtime?

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 04 Jan 2008, 08:24

E wrote:
Chambers2 wrote:Did anyone watch the show last night? It was one of the funniest 90 minutes of telly I've ever seen, Matt Lucas was hilarious. My ribs were aching by the end of it

(queue a load od 'BIG Brother is shite' comments)
I would prefer to look at the contents of Heather Mills-Macartney's beadpan for 90 mins than that shite.

Did Ogogo get any airtime?

It was the first show last night, so they showed a pre-recorded interview of each contestant before they went in the house, he came across as cocky and arrogant, but they all did to be fair. Its the way BB always starts the series, they show the extreme sides of the personalities to provoke a reaction from the public, but its not always a fair reflection.

One of the contestants (John) had a secret earpiece in and was being told what to do and say to each of the contestants as they entered, Matt had him following Ogoga round the room stroking his hair and trying to massage him neck, it was piss funny.....IMO

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 04 Jan 2008, 15:50

"emphasising the duality" for me suggests that being mixed is not quite up to scratch and that the people who are of two different colours really would help the situation by being black and white in the way tommy cooper used to wear half and half different clothes in one of his sketches. thats how ridiculous it all is.

james, not quite the thought police, merely the (french) marxist intellectuals who kicked off the political correctness thing. realising they'd never achieve political power, they embarked on a program of chipping away at language and how we talk to each other. in this way their influence was more far reaching than mere party politics.
its nice to know that there are still active members of the resistance