Paulie Mlignaggi - Herman Ngoudjo (SPOILER)

chris s · Post by **chris s** » 06 Jan 2008, 10:39

Box Office wrote:WITTER WOULD DESTROY BOTH OF THEM,
WE NEED TO REALISE JUST HOW GREAT OUR MAN JUNIOR IS
He's the best in the World!

How and why mate?

E · Post by E » 06 Jan 2008, 10:54

PIssed off - put £40 on ngoudjo. Both looked pretty rubbish to be Frank - Witter and Hatton would beat both comfortably....

Witherspoon is going nowhere.

US Boxing is in trouble once mayweather is gone.

Neri · Post by **Neri** » 06 Jan 2008, 10:59

E wrote:PIssed off - put £40 on ngoudjo. Both looked pretty rubbish to be Frank - Witter and Hatton would beat both comfortably....

Witherspoon is going nowhere.

US Boxing is in trouble once mayweather is gone.

What odds did you get? The Showtime commentator's said you could get 6/1 on the Ngoudjo win.

StepinFetchit · Post by **StepinFetchit** » 06 Jan 2008, 12:05

hitman_hatton1 wrote:
Autobarn wrote:Now, is Ricky Hatton-Malignaggi really such a big fight??
no.

never rated n'dou.

he's lost every remotely big fight in his career.

last night was a chance to make a statement against a guy that gave castillo a good test.

tilt.

Yeh but u were saying FaginSally was the fight Hatton should take next u b^m licking fan boy.

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 06 Jan 2008, 12:09

StepinFetchit wrote:
hitman_hatton1 wrote:
Autobarn wrote:Now, is Ricky Hatton-Malignaggi really such a big fight??
no.

never rated n'dou.

he's lost every remotely big fight in his career.

last night was a chance to make a statement against a guy that gave castillo a good test.

tilt.

Yeh but u were saying FaginSally was the fight Hatton should take next u b^m licking fan boy.

this wouldn't be simpsons by any chance would it.

all i said was malignaggi was the bigger fight.

last night changes nothing really.

he still gets shown on american tv regular.

last time witter was shown in the states he was running away from zab judah.

E · Post by E » 06 Jan 2008, 12:10

Neri wrote:
E wrote:PIssed off - put £40 on ngoudjo. Both looked pretty rubbish to be Frank - Witter and Hatton would beat both comfortably....

Witherspoon is going nowhere.

US Boxing is in trouble once mayweather is gone.
What odds did you get? The Showtime commentator's said you could get 6/1 on the Ngoudjo win.

Got 5/1. I thought the fighter was very hard to score. I know the US team had ngoudjo winning, but the majority of the guys on boxrec posting live went for Malignaggi.

I think it could have gone either way, but was hoping for Ngoudjo to win...

boxbet · Post by **boxbet** » 06 Jan 2008, 12:27

Ngougjo won the fight. If your lenient to pauli the fight is a draw. Boxing stinks of shit. House fighters being gifted decisions all the time. If the non -house fighter doesnt win by KO or a clear hammering he never gets JUSTICE. I hope and pray all non-house fighters win and the promoters go bankrupt for being corrupt. AND the judges also.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 06 Jan 2008, 13:03

regarding Ndou...I thought he beat Sharmbah Mitchell, and he stopped Ben Rabah in a great fight. Really thought Ndou would have done what Ngoudjo did to Malignaggi, with a bit more savvy and doggedness.

lvlarc · Post by **lvlarc** » 06 Jan 2008, 13:27

Missed the fight but it sounds like Malignaggi shit the bed. A shame too as he must've made a load of new fans with his performance against N'dou. Ideally I'd love to see Witter unify with Paulie, whilst Hatton fights Rees or Torres, seems like Witter's best chance of goading Hatton into signing that contract.

boxbet · Post by **boxbet** » 06 Jan 2008, 13:41

No wonder good fighters leave the sport. How can they put up with House fighter, bad decision , corrupt judging bullshit.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 06 Jan 2008, 13:43

Autobarn wrote:regarding Ndou...I thought he beat Sharmbah Mitchell, and he stopped Ben Rabah in a great fight. Really thought Ndou would have done what Ngoudjo did to Malignaggi, with a bit more savvy and doggedness.

Ndou vs Mitchell is one "controvesial" fight in which I really failed to see the controvesy. I thought Mitchell won by a wider margin than Witter or Cotto.

I wouldn't mind seeing Witter vs Ngoudjo - style wise Ngoudjo could be very wrong for Witter.

Where does this leave Jose Luis Castillo also.

lvlarc · Post by **lvlarc** » 06 Jan 2008, 13:46

Castillo's name may still be fresh in the minds of the casual UK fan, what are the chances of Warren inviting him over for Gavin's first defence?

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 06 Jan 2008, 13:47

lvlarc wrote:Castillo's name may still be fresh in the minds of the casual UK fan, what's the chances of Warren inviting him over for Gavin's first defence?

Well its a losing defense then. I think this means result (forget the actual decision) that Castillo is still either #2 or #3 in the devision.

lvlarc · Post by **lvlarc** » 06 Jan 2008, 13:51

You're probably right. Castillo is getting on in years now but he should still have enough in the tank to beat the likes of Gavin Rees. Castillo is due another fight mind.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 06 Jan 2008, 14:11

lvlarc wrote:You're probably right. Castillo is getting on in years now but he should still have enough in the tank to beat the likes of Gavin Rees. Castillo is due another fight mind.

Won a tune up in October.

JCB123 · Post by **JCB123** » 06 Jan 2008, 14:36

Witter & Hatton would destroy Paulie!!!

He is a weak champ, ok he's slick & has decent ability but simply can't punch!!

Witter should try & fight him next & KO him, giving him the ammo to get Ricky in the ring with him.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 06 Jan 2008, 17:17

JCB123 wrote:Witter & Hatton would destroy Paulie!!!

He is a weak champ, ok he's slick & has decent ability but simply can't punch!!

Witter should try & fight him next & KO him, giving him the ammo to get Ricky in the ring with him.

Don't think Witter will KO Paulie - thats why I think its still a fascinating fight.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 06 Jan 2008, 17:25

I'm not so sure Witter V Malignaggi would as fascinating as a boring stand off chess match. I didn't realise there was a fight on last night, will have to wait for the flipping midnight replay on Wednesday now to catch this one

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 06 Jan 2008, 17:29

steve689 wrote:I'm not so sure Witter V Malignaggi would as fascinating as a boring stand off chess match. I didn't realise there was a fight on last night, will have to wait for the flipping midnight replay on Wednesday now to catch this one

I mean fascinating to predict.... Malignaggi was poor last night, but still stylewise is wrong for Witter. He is still fit, tough and fast.

Its a tough one to call.

Dioufy · Post by **Dioufy** » 06 Jan 2008, 17:32

If Malignaggi has anything about him he should travel to Europe to face Junior Witter and prove that he is "the best in the world at 140lbs" (that he always proclaims) instead of relying on a supposedly "honourable" loss to a badly weight-drained Miguel Cotto and home-town decisions to keep his reputation/personal victim-list intact.

states · Post by **states** » 06 Jan 2008, 22:22

Dioufy wrote:If Malignaggi has anything about him he should travel to Europe to face Junior Witter and prove that he is "the best in the world at 140lbs" (that he always proclaims) instead of relying on a supposedly "honourable" loss to a badly weight-drained Miguel Cotto and home-town decisions to keep his reputation/personal victim-list intact.

There is absolutely no chance Malignaggi travels over here to fight Witter. Christ, he's not willing to travel over here to fight Hatton:

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing ... id=3183924

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 07 Jan 2008, 06:54

Herna was very very unlucky not to get the W over the weekend, it was a proper hometowner. 116-111 was a joke

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 07 Jan 2008, 07:16

Did anyone hear the commentry team say something like

"Herman is stopping paulie work, which is something cotto couldnt do.... what does that say about miguel cotto" or something liek that, basic jist was this proves cotto is crap.

Witter Paulie has snoozefest written all over it! May even rank up there with an all time dull "scrap" like Ruiz Rahman

John Dillinger · Post by **John Dillinger** » 07 Jan 2008, 07:26

I think they said on the commentary that HN's last 5 fights have gone the distance. He's clearly not a big puncher, nor can he punch like Hatton or Witter. Yet when he connected Mag shat it big time, started flicking his jab and looked petrified. He pushes his punches and his chin's in the air.

If HN can catch Mag then Witter and Hatton can do it harder and more often. It's no contest in my view.

On a different note, what was the crowd for the fight? Didn't look like it was a big arena at all.

Dioufy · Post by **Dioufy** » 07 Jan 2008, 08:33

states wrote:
Dioufy wrote:If Malignaggi has anything about him he should travel to Europe to face Junior Witter and prove that he is "the best in the world at 140lbs" (that he always proclaims) instead of relying on a supposedly "honourable" loss to a badly weight-drained Miguel Cotto and home-town decisions to keep his reputation/personal victim-list intact.
There is absolutely no chance Malignaggi travels over here to fight Witter. Christ, he's not willing to travel over here to fight Hatton:

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing ... id=3183924

Eh? If you read that article it states that Lou DiBella is thinking about putting a Hatton and Malignaggi fight on the same card in England to promote the fight. And who else could Malignaggi fight in England that wouldn't be considered a walk-over? Colin Lynes? Gavin Rees? Those fighters are a joke - even a fight against a top European in Andreas Kotelnik (when he defeats Rees) would be a massive step back for him. For me he should fight Junior Witter on the undercard of a Hatton fight at the M.E.N Arena, and if both win, then a fight in Las Vegas or the Garden in 2008 between these two would be special in my opinion.

E.S.P.N wrote:DiBella said that he would consider having Malignaggi and Hatton share a card in England to build their fight but that he thinks Malignaggi-Hatton belongs in the U.S.