Mayweather to fight Raul Marquez at light-middle?!!!

Ulysses · Post by **Ulysses** » 15 Jan 2004, 07:35

Boxing Talk are reporting that lightweight king Floyd Mayweather is close to arranging a fight at 11 stone with sluggish former champion Marquez.
This would mean a jump of nearly 20 pounds.
Whilst someone like Marquez is made for the lightning fast Floyd, this is still a massive leap considering the trouble he had with the bigger Jose Luis Castillo.

Goz · Post by **Goz** » 15 Jan 2004, 07:38

That would be a shocker. Whilst I guess Mayweather could run his way to a points win over the likes of Marquez surely any long term ambitions in the class would be a non-starter.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 15 Jan 2004, 07:40

I can't see why Floyd would be interesting in jumping so many weights? Last time he was moving up to Light Welterweight and now Light Middleweight, what next?! A challenge for RJJ at Light Heavy

It's probably just talk, Floyd has notoriously bad hands but is his weight making such a problem as well?

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 15 Jan 2004, 08:33

Sounds like madness and a waste of a potentialy great career. He'd beat the plodding Marquez, but then what? De La Hoya would probably crush him at light middle.

What's wrong with a mega Tszyu fight at 140. He'd get paid well and can allow himself to grow into the higher weights if that's what he really wants.

The REAL McCoy · Post by **The REAL McCoy** » 15 Jan 2004, 08:40

How the hell is Mayweather going to put on all that weight? Is he wearing Michael Gomez's shorts at the weigh-in? :P

The REAL McCoy · Post by **The REAL McCoy** » 15 Jan 2004, 08:43

MightyWarrior wrote:What's wrong with a mega Tszyu fight at 140. He'd get paid well and can allow himself to grow into the higher weights if that's what he really wants.

What a great fight that would be, but one that McCoy believes Mayweather would win on points

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 15 Jan 2004, 08:45

i heard maweather is after hatton to come over the states and fight him in a 10 rounder.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 15 Jan 2004, 09:07

Of course, Mayweather wouldn't HAVE to put on all that weight, he could just come in under the weight, and use his speed, much like Jones Jr did against the plodding Ruiz, giving away 30 lbs.

Still think it's a load of old hornswaggle though.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 15 Jan 2004, 09:11

This is a very real rumour. Boxing News have confirmed it.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 15 Jan 2004, 09:16

Christ on a bike! Well, if he pulls it off, it's certainly the equal of Roy Jones' winning effort against Ruiz.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 15 Jan 2004, 13:55

The REAL McCoy wrote:
MightyWarrior wrote:What's wrong with a mega Tszyu fight at 140. He'd get paid well and can allow himself to grow into the higher weights if that's what he really wants.

What a great fight that would be, but one that McCoy believes Mayweather would win on points

Yeah I think he would too McCoy, too fast for the Russian/Aussie maybe.

It's gonna be Arum's wet-dream isn't it:

THE GOLDEN BOY V THE PRETTY BOY

With Dad with the other corner....

The REAL McCoy · Post by **The REAL McCoy** » 15 Jan 2004, 14:57

MightyWarrior wrote:
The REAL McCoy wrote:
MightyWarrior wrote:What's wrong with a mega Tszyu fight at 140. He'd get paid well and can allow himself to grow into the higher weights if that's what he really wants.

What a great fight that would be, but one that McCoy believes Mayweather would win on points
Yeah I think he would too McCoy, too fast for the Russian/Aussie maybe.

It's gonna be Arum's wet-dream isn't it:

THE GOLDEN BOY V THE PRETTY BOY

With Dad with the other corner....

Yep, it sure is...only in boxing would you ever see something that crazy happening

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 15 Jan 2004, 17:11

what is he playing at

he's been struggling at lightweight and don't try and convince me his last fight was so impressive, he was fighting an unproven blown up super featherweight :x mayweather should stay where he is for a bit longer and get it on with freitas or casamayor.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 15 Jan 2004, 19:49

Yawn...talk of Mayweather-DLH really doesn't interest me. For some reason i would rather watch Mayweather-Castillo III

Sweet P · Post by **Sweet P** » 16 Jan 2004, 22:03

Maywether is crazy going up that many weights, he should fight at 140 first because he is having trouble with big lightweights, Tszyu would KO him and i think that there are a few other 140 pounders that would beat him like Mitchell ,Judah and probably Hatton. He is no quicker than Zab Judah except he has less power and is smaller.

Ulysses · Post by **Ulysses** » 17 Jan 2004, 07:49

On the subject of De La Hoya versus Mayweather Jr, how do people see the bout going? and howabout at different weight classes?
I think DLH beats him at 11 stone, 10-7, 10 stone and 9-9. Oscar's too fast, hits too hard and the key would've been his jab.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 17 Jan 2004, 14:26

I think DLH will be too strong for him at Light Middle, not to sure about Welter, Lightwelter or Light. I don't think DLH could make 10 confortable now, so that would certainly benefit the Pretty Boy.

It would be a huge match up, and I tell you something I wouldn't be surprised if Mayweather wins even at Light Middle, this might sound crazy - but I struggle to find a major fault with him. His power isn't his forte, but you don't win if you can't hit him - as all his opponents have found out so far. He's faster than DLH and I think has better long term stamina than DLH.

Ulysses · Post by **Ulysses** » 18 Jan 2004, 10:30

stujones wrote:I think DLH will be too strong for him at Light Middle, not to sure about Welter, Lightwelter or Light. I don't think DLH could make 10 confortable now, so that would certainly benefit the Pretty Boy.

It would be a huge match up, and I tell you something I wouldn't be surprised if Mayweather wins even at Light Middle, this might sound crazy - but I struggle to find a major fault with him. His power isn't his forte, but you don't win if you can't hit him - as all his opponents have found out so far. He's faster than DLH and I think has better long term stamina than DLH.

What I meant was if they'd met when Oscar was a welter, light-welter or lightweight, there's no chance of him making 10 stone now!

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 18 Jan 2004, 10:46

Ulysses wrote:
stujones wrote:I think DLH will be too strong for him at Light Middle, not to sure about Welter, Lightwelter or Light. I don't think DLH could make 10 confortable now, so that would certainly benefit the Pretty Boy.

It would be a huge match up, and I tell you something I wouldn't be surprised if Mayweather wins even at Light Middle, this might sound crazy - but I struggle to find a major fault with him. His power isn't his forte, but you don't win if you can't hit him - as all his opponents have found out so far. He's faster than DLH and I think has better long term stamina than DLH.
What I meant was if they'd met when Oscar was a welter, light-welter or lightweight, there's no chance of him making 10 stone now!

If they met at light middle I wonder what the odds would be. Depends how he looks vs Marquez I suppose.
Mayweather is that good you wouldn't put anything past him.
If he wants a few mega fights, he should really stick around the best weight class in boxing - 140.

Ulysses · Post by **Ulysses** » 18 Jan 2004, 11:00

MightyWarrior wrote:
Ulysses wrote:
stujones wrote:I think DLH will be too strong for him at Light Middle, not to sure about Welter, Lightwelter or Light. I don't think DLH could make 10 confortable now, so that would certainly benefit the Pretty Boy.

It would be a huge match up, and I tell you something I wouldn't be surprised if Mayweather wins even at Light Middle, this might sound crazy - but I struggle to find a major fault with him. His power isn't his forte, but you don't win if you can't hit him - as all his opponents have found out so far. He's faster than DLH and I think has better long term stamina than DLH.
What I meant was if they'd met when Oscar was a welter, light-welter or lightweight, there's no chance of him making 10 stone now!
If they met at light middle I wonder what the odds would be. Depends how he looks vs Marquez I suppose.
Mayweather is that good you wouldn't put anything past him.
If he wants a few mega fights, he should really stick around the best weight class in boxing - 140.

Mayweather's a shrewd guy, they've picked a very win-able fight if the Marquez bout comes off, for me, he just doesn't have the pop to keep the very best at 11stone away, boxers like Mosley and Oscar himself were knockout artists at lightweight and they've taken their punching power with them up the weights to some degree.
For me, a Tszyu-Mayweather bout is 50-50 let alone the likes of Forrest, Mosley, Vargas etc.