JC-Nard. April 19th Las Vegas in a non-title bout

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 23 Jan 2008, 08:56

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Asterix · Post by **Asterix** » 23 Jan 2008, 08:58

How good is Hopkins' stamina?

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 23 Jan 2008, 09:05

Joe's going to brutalise him and won't be suprised If he stops him.

chesh · Post by **chesh** » 23 Jan 2008, 09:05

Asterix wrote:How good is Hopkins' stamina?

He can last 12 rounds, but only by working about half a minute a round. He'll use all the tricks at his disposal to counteract Calzaghe's prolific punch output. Joe by close UD in an ugly fight.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 23 Jan 2008, 09:16

I think that Hopkins will hold, spoil and maul his way to losing a lopsided inanimous decision. He simply doesn't have the workrate to beat Calzaghe, though I suppose there's a tiny possibility of him landing a humdinger and winning by KO.

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 23 Jan 2008, 09:19

What do you mean 'non-title'?

B-Hop is the LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION, this is his 2nd defence.

And since when was he referred to as 'Nard'????

Captain Hook · Post by **Captain Hook** » 23 Jan 2008, 09:20

jamesmcdonnell wrote:I think that Hopkins will hold, spoil and maul his way to losing a lopsided inanimous decision. He simply doesn't have the workrate to beat Calzaghe, though I suppose there's a tiny possibility of him landing a humdinger and winning by KO.

Have to agree with that, and I don't think he'll take a massive hammering, he's too clever for that.
He'll lose, but he won't take a pasting, let's not forget he's coming off two big wins at this weight.

Captain Hook · Post by **Captain Hook** » 23 Jan 2008, 09:21

overhand_right wrote:What do you mean 'non-title'?

B-Hop is the LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION, this is his 2nd defence.

And since when was he referred to as 'Nard'????

I've heard him referred to as NARD by several posters, and B-Hop...

And Bernie, and St Bernard

chesh · Post by **chesh** » 23 Jan 2008, 09:26

[quote="overhand_right"]What do you mean 'non-title'?/quote]

None of the 4 major belts is on the line, but the most prestigious - that of the Ring Magazine - is.

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 23 Jan 2008, 09:27

overhand_right wrote:What do you mean 'non-title'?

B-Hop is the LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION, this is his 2nd defence.

And since when was he referred to as 'Nard'????

he doesnt hold a title, does he? Other than "the ring title", and you wouldnt say "Calzaghe fights hopkins for ring title", or would you?

Ive seen him referred to as 'Nard' since Ive been on message boards, approx 7 years.

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 23 Jan 2008, 10:09

Wales wrote:
overhand_right wrote:What do you mean 'non-title'?

B-Hop is the LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION, this is his 2nd defence.

And since when was he referred to as 'Nard'????
he doesnt hold a title, does he? Other than "the ring title", and you wouldnt say "Calzaghe fights hopkins for ring title", or would you?

Ive seen him referred to as 'Nard' since Ive been on message boards, approx 7 years.

Who gives a fook about the alphabet belts???? Tarver and Johnson were ridiculously stripped for unifying, then B-Hop beat Tarver.

The belts rightly belong to B-Hop.

Chris W 1982 · Post by **Chris W 1982** » 23 Jan 2008, 10:38

jamesmcdonnell wrote:I think that Hopkins will hold, spoil and maul his way to losing a lopsided inanimous decision. He simply doesn't have the workrate to beat Calzaghe, though I suppose there's a tiny possibility of him landing a humdinger and winning by KO.

These are the reasons that i can see aiding Hopkins in this fight.

Just think Hopkins' cleverness can be enough to win this fight. He's by far Calzaghe's toughest opponent.

Hopkins by UD in an overhyped clinchfest.

punchers chance · Post by **punchers chance** » 23 Jan 2008, 10:39

chesh wrote:
Asterix wrote:How good is Hopkins' stamina?
He can last 12 rounds, but only by working about half a minute a round. He'll use all the tricks at his disposal to counteract Calzaghe's prolific punch output. Joe by close UD in an ugly fight.

If it is 'non-title' will it be 12 rounds or 10?

Asterix · Post by **Asterix** » 23 Jan 2008, 11:22

punchers chance wrote:
chesh wrote:
Asterix wrote:How good is Hopkins' stamina?
He can last 12 rounds, but only by working about half a minute a round. He'll use all the tricks at his disposal to counteract Calzaghe's prolific punch output. Joe by close UD in an ugly fight.
If it is 'non-title' will it be 12 rounds or 10?

12 rounds -> http://www.boxrec.com/show_display.php?show_id=546973

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 23 Jan 2008, 11:28

The quiet man 2004 wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:I think that Hopkins will hold, spoil and maul his way to losing a lopsided inanimous decision. He simply doesn't have the workrate to beat Calzaghe, though I suppose there's a tiny possibility of him landing a humdinger and winning by KO.
These are the reasons that i can see aiding Hopkins in this fight.

Just think Hopkins' cleverness can be enough to win this fight. He's by far Calzaghe's toughest opponent.

Hopkins by UD in an overhyped clinchfest.

I think that if Taylor can outwork him then Calzaghe can do so more easily. Admittedly Calzaghe lacks Taylors huge reach, but his angles and positioning are better.

STP · Post by **STP** » 23 Jan 2008, 11:36

Hopkins will take him out.

Chris W 1982 · Post by **Chris W 1982** » 23 Jan 2008, 11:37

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
The quiet man 2004 wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:I think that Hopkins will hold, spoil and maul his way to losing a lopsided inanimous decision. He simply doesn't have the workrate to beat Calzaghe, though I suppose there's a tiny possibility of him landing a humdinger and winning by KO.
These are the reasons that i can see aiding Hopkins in this fight.

Just think Hopkins' cleverness can be enough to win this fight. He's by far Calzaghe's toughest opponent.

Hopkins by UD in an overhyped clinchfest.
I think that if Taylor can outwork him then Calzaghe can do so more easily. Admittedly Calzaghe lacks Taylors huge reach, but his angles and positioning are better.

These are the only two blips on Hopkins' fine record, and both decisions were a little contentious.

Hopkins' has progressed well since these two defeats, emerging victorious against awkward southpaws Tarver and Wright. His weakness against Calzaghe will be dealing with the speed of Joe's shots and the amount of punches being thrown. Thtas why i think he'll tie Joe up for the majority of the fight and do the majority of his work on the inside.

I also think the referee and judges are crucial in this fight. Who wants to bet that the issue of Calzaghe's slaps will be brought up leading to the fight. We may well see another Cortez-gate scandal

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 23 Jan 2008, 20:23

more i think about this more i think old bernard can win.

I think he can creak out one more performance and counter calzaghe all night with more effective punches. the fight will be difficult to score.

ALI · Post by **ALI** » 24 Jan 2008, 03:48

Riddick Blowe wrote:more i think about this more i think old bernard can win.

I think he can creak out one more performance and counter calzaghe all night with more effective punches. the fight will be difficult to score.

To some extent, i agree. Most seem to think this will be a cake walk for Calzaghe believing that he will give Hopkins a pasting. I personally think it will be close(ish), Hopkins is a very intelligent fighter and this will be no easy night for Joe. Hopkins is well on in age now, but i believe Calzaghe showed wear & tear in the Kessler fight. He was tiring down the stretch IMO and his pop looked significantly weaker as the fight wore on. I do not see Calzaghe winning this by KO, the most like'ly scenario IMO will be a close points win for Calzaghe, something like 115 - 113 but i'm not going to be shocked of Hopkins pulls it off.

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 24 Jan 2008, 05:54

overhand_right wrote:What do you mean 'non-title'?

B-Hop is the LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION, this is his 2nd defence.

And since when was he referred to as 'Nard'????

The article says its a 'non title' fight, don't shoot the messenger.

Bernard Hopkins has been known as Nard as long as I've heard of him

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 24 Jan 2008, 06:51

I wasn't ranting in your particular direction, you just got caught in the buckshot.

Nard B-Hop Bernard Archie Moore Mongoose Hopkins oldboy geezer to add another southpaw scalp to his resume.

Hopkins W12 Calzaghe.

Twinkle Toes · Post by **Twinkle Toes** » 24 Jan 2008, 07:44

A distance fight with Calzaghe taking a comfortable but close decision - I dont believe Calzaghe is going to stop Hopkins, and I don't think Hopkins can stop Calzaghe either.

So it comes down to has the better boxing brain - In their primes it would be a tough one to call, but at this point Calzaghe looks far fresher and his work output is huge compared to hopkins.

It's going to be like the Bike fight, with clazgahe getting roughed up, but taking a clear win.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 24 Jan 2008, 08:17

The Winky Wright vs Hopkins fight wasn't for anything other than the Ring title, you watch Michael Buffer make a song and dance of that in his introductions.

Calzaghe saying that he is going to do a Honeyghun? Thing is, Honeyghun was a huge underdog.... I imagine Joe will be a warm favourite.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 24 Jan 2008, 08:42

It could end up looking like Ken Buchanan-Carlos Ortiz. 1 guy (Ortiz) trying so hard to spoil that he does nothing but lose and make the other guy look bad. Though Hopkins will go the distance, I'm pretty sure.

Poncey · Post by **Poncey** » 24 Jan 2008, 08:45

Is it not for the RING title?

JC-Nard. April 19th Las Vegas in a non-title bout

Whon wins?

JC-Nard. April 19th Las Vegas in a non-title bout