I want to shape up, lose the handles..So ive heard sauna suits are pretty good on losing weight with caution.
Any reccomendations, no cheap or tacky suggestions please!
Are Sauna Suits good?
Source: http://ezinearticles.com/?The-Function- ... s&id=64076The use of sauna suits brings out misconceptions about losing weight. That is, to lose weight, your body needs to burn more food (calories) than you eat. And, when your body has no immediate food/source of energy to burn, it will start burning stored fat. Sauna suits help you lose weight by burning more fuel, not only by helping you sweat out lots of water. Sweating lots of water does help though, as it helps your body rid itself of toxins. Plus, the water you lose will be regained when you drink more water. However, the food and fat that were used to create the sweat will not go back into your body, so you’ll lose weight!
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King Tubby
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I've been a lurker here for many years, but felt compelled to reply when I read some of the stuff about sweatsuits and weight loss posted here.
As a former (not very good) amateur boxer who use to use sweat-suits and as a scientist who's investigated weight-loss and dehydration in sport for nearly ten years.
Sweat is mainly water and electrolytes (salts) such as sodium, potassium, chloride etc, you don't really lose lots of "toxins" through your sweat, it's your liver and kidneys that mainly deal with and get rid of toxins.
Exercising with a sweat suit on increases the amount of sweat you produce because the sweat doesn't evaporate off to cool you so your body continues sweating. So it's good for losing weight rapidly, though being dehydrated has a negative effect on performance once you lose about 1-2kg. When you exercise with a suit on, your metabolism doesn't increase much more than if you were exercising with normal gear on. It doesn't take much energy to produce sweat.
So, basically, for steady weight loss, sweatsuits don't have any added advantage. For rapid weight loss, they're very effective, but exercising when dehydrated can reduce the intensity of your training.
As a former (not very good) amateur boxer who use to use sweat-suits and as a scientist who's investigated weight-loss and dehydration in sport for nearly ten years.
Sweat is mainly water and electrolytes (salts) such as sodium, potassium, chloride etc, you don't really lose lots of "toxins" through your sweat, it's your liver and kidneys that mainly deal with and get rid of toxins.
Exercising with a sweat suit on increases the amount of sweat you produce because the sweat doesn't evaporate off to cool you so your body continues sweating. So it's good for losing weight rapidly, though being dehydrated has a negative effect on performance once you lose about 1-2kg. When you exercise with a suit on, your metabolism doesn't increase much more than if you were exercising with normal gear on. It doesn't take much energy to produce sweat.
So, basically, for steady weight loss, sweatsuits don't have any added advantage. For rapid weight loss, they're very effective, but exercising when dehydrated can reduce the intensity of your training.
No probs Asterix, some of the advice on "10 steps to weight loss" section on http://www.sweatsuit.co.uk is ok - except when it mentions anything to do with sweatsuits and that 2 x 15 min exercise burns twice as many calories as 1 x 30min exercise - it will if you exercise 100% harder during the 15 min than the 30 min.Asterix wrote:Thanks Arch. I was hoping for an educated reply as Internet research can only take me so far.
This bit is particularly incorrect:
"Make each meal consist of higher protein (builds muscle) 40-50% of calorie intake, moderate carbohydrates (fuel for the body) 40-50% of calorie intake and low fat (energy and protection) 10-15% of calorie intake"
40-50% protein intake is 3 times the recommended amount - putting a big load on your liver and kidneys to deal with it and is excessive in terms of muscle gain.
Out of interest, what do you recommend for grams of protein to kg of weight? I have never been able to get a definitive answer as sme poeple say 1, others say 2.Arch wrote:No probs Asterix, some of the advice on "10 steps to weight loss" section on http://www.sweatsuit.co.uk is ok - except when it mentions anything to do with sweatsuits and that 2 x 15 min exercise burns twice as many calories as 1 x 30min exercise - it will if you exercise 100% harder during the 15 min than the 30 min.Asterix wrote:Thanks Arch. I was hoping for an educated reply as Internet research can only take me so far.
This bit is particularly incorrect:
"Make each meal consist of higher protein (builds muscle) 40-50% of calorie intake, moderate carbohydrates (fuel for the body) 40-50% of calorie intake and low fat (energy and protection) 10-15% of calorie intake"
40-50% protein intake is 3 times the recommended amount - putting a big load on your liver and kidneys to deal with it and is excessive in terms of muscle gain.
Also, wouldn't drinking excessive amounts of water assist the liver and kidneys with the high levels of protein?
Obviously would fck up the weight loss idea.
Thanks
40-50% protein intake is 3 times the recommended amount - putting a big load on your liver and kidneys to deal with it and is excessive in terms of muscle gain.[/quote]
Out of interest, what do you recommend for grams of protein to kg of weight? I have never been able to get a definitive answer as sme poeple say 1, others say 2.
Also, wouldn't drinking excessive amounts of water assist the liver and kidneys with the high levels of protein?
Obviously would fck up the weight loss idea.
Thanks
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The IOC organise a large meeting every few years with the top people in the field and their latest recommendations for athletes are 1.2-1.6g/kg. There's not much evidence that much more than 1.6g/kg protein (e.g. 102g for a 70kg person) increases protein synthesis and muscle gains.
The more protein you eat, the more your body uses it - so if you go on a high protein diet your body adapts by using more protein. If you come off a high protein diet, it can take your body up to a week or two to adapt back to a more normal diet. I reckon this is one of the reasons lots of people stick to high protein diets - if they come off it they might lose a bit of mass in the first week or two until their body adapts to the new protein intake.
In terms of water - drinking more would help your kidneys deal with the protein, but that extra protein is probably unneccessary. In my opinion 2g/kg is pretty safe but when you get near the 4 g/kg that some bodybuilders do, you're taking some risks without real benefits. Drinking more fluids will not hinder your weight loss, because your body deals with ingesting a bit too much water by pi**ing it out.
Out of interest, what do you recommend for grams of protein to kg of weight? I have never been able to get a definitive answer as sme poeple say 1, others say 2.
Also, wouldn't drinking excessive amounts of water assist the liver and kidneys with the high levels of protein?
Obviously would fck up the weight loss idea.
Thanks
[/quote]The IOC organise a large meeting every few years with the top people in the field and their latest recommendations for athletes are 1.2-1.6g/kg. There's not much evidence that much more than 1.6g/kg protein (e.g. 102g for a 70kg person) increases protein synthesis and muscle gains.
The more protein you eat, the more your body uses it - so if you go on a high protein diet your body adapts by using more protein. If you come off a high protein diet, it can take your body up to a week or two to adapt back to a more normal diet. I reckon this is one of the reasons lots of people stick to high protein diets - if they come off it they might lose a bit of mass in the first week or two until their body adapts to the new protein intake.
In terms of water - drinking more would help your kidneys deal with the protein, but that extra protein is probably unneccessary. In my opinion 2g/kg is pretty safe but when you get near the 4 g/kg that some bodybuilders do, you're taking some risks without real benefits. Drinking more fluids will not hinder your weight loss, because your body deals with ingesting a bit too much water by pi**ing it out.
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Grilling Machine
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Thanks for the contribution Arch; good to have qualified nutritional knowledge about.
Do you have any opinions on running with an empty stomach, in terms of burning fat? Internet searching turns up conflicting advice. Some believe the benefits are outweighed by the negatives, namely muscle loss. There's also the thinking that you don't have enough energy to run as far.
I was personally planning to go for something in between when the weather improves. Maybe eating tea a bit later and finishing my run an hour or so before?
Do you have any opinions on running with an empty stomach, in terms of burning fat? Internet searching turns up conflicting advice. Some believe the benefits are outweighed by the negatives, namely muscle loss. There's also the thinking that you don't have enough energy to run as far.
I was personally planning to go for something in between when the weather improves. Maybe eating tea a bit later and finishing my run an hour or so before?
It's a real 50/50. Running on an empty stomach allows you to burn more fat as a fuel rather than carbs (and a little bit more protein). But if you're fasted it might mean that you can't train at the same intensity or for as long and so might burn less calories overall.Grilling Machine wrote:Thanks for the contribution Arch; good to have qualified nutritional knowledge about.
Do you have any opinions on running with an empty stomach, in terms of burning fat? Internet searching turns up conflicting advice. Some believe the benefits are outweighed by the negatives, namely muscle loss. There's also the thinking that you don't have enough energy to run as far.
I was personally planning to go for something in between when the weather improves. Maybe eating tea a bit later and finishing my run an hour or so before?
So what you're planning sounds fine, train first and then eat soon after, but you might need a snack before training if you find that you're struggling to train on an empty stomach.
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Grilling Machine
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That's the ticket. I've tried both methods and found I could run a mile about 1/3 faster on food. I'll avoid carbs but eat about three hours before training, then have my evening meal after. Cheers.Arch wrote:So what you're planning sounds fine, train first and then eat soon after, but you might need a snack before training if you find that you're struggling to train on an empty stomach.