Best right hand, left hook, chin etc in todays boxing

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 11 Feb 2008, 07:51

Saw an article on Eastside, about Edison Miranda having the best right hand in todays boxing, so got me thinking about who people rate with the best skills and punches in boxing today.

right hand - David Haye

Left Hook - Manny Pacquiao

Jab - Joe Calzaghe

Chin - Glen Johnson

add more to the list, as i really should do some work.

Asterix · Post by **Asterix** » 11 Feb 2008, 07:53

Work rate / stamina = Joe Calzaghe.

Poncey · Post by **Poncey** » 11 Feb 2008, 08:03

Right hand - David Haye

Left Hook - Ponce De Leon (I would've said Williams until Sat night)

Jab - Ronald Wright

Chin - Joe Calzaghe

rasputin · Post by **rasputin** » 11 Feb 2008, 09:13

Right hand Haye

Chin Gary St Clair

Work rate Calzaghe

STP · Post by **STP** » 11 Feb 2008, 09:23

I quite like Carl Froch's right uppercut.

Captain Hook · Post by **Captain Hook** » 11 Feb 2008, 10:00

Pacquaio's left hand, Floyd's defence (and everythin else!), Froch has a class chin, as does Calzaghe, McCall (still), Margarito..

Valero punches v hard too.....

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 13 Feb 2008, 17:12

Chin- still McCall if he is active.
workrate/stamina - Sam Soliman
ring smarts - Hopkins/Toney

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 13 Feb 2008, 20:16

Jab - Winky (Vernon Forrest close behind)
Workrate - Pacquiao (Joe close behind)
Chin - Joe Calzaghe
Right hand - Haye (I love Kessler's straight right also)
Left Hook - De La Hoya
Ring smarts - Mayweather
Everything else - Mayweather.

Asterix · Post by **Asterix** » 13 Feb 2008, 20:18

How has Pacquiao got the best work rate? I'm looking at this and it's not adding up: http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.php?t ... ht:1174501

BAMBI · Post by **BAMBI** » 14 Feb 2008, 03:27

Will & heart---mayorga!!

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 14 Feb 2008, 03:59

Actually Dr Harold Shipman has got a leathal jab.

Poncey · Post by **Poncey** » 14 Feb 2008, 04:38

Asterix wrote:How has Pacquiao got the best work rate? I'm looking at this and it's not adding up: http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.php?t ... ht:1174501

Before Sat, Williams had the best IMO. His fight with Mitchell was amazing. One round was 190 punches thrown.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 14 Feb 2008, 08:52

Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:
Asterix wrote:How has Pacquiao got the best work rate? I'm looking at this and it's not adding up: http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.php?t ... ht:1174501
Before Sat, Williams had the best IMO. His fight with Mitchell was amazing. One round was 190 punches thrown.

Punch stats isn't the be all and end all... doesn't reflect the opponent or the occasion.

Morales and Barrera went hammer and tong at each other - and Pacquiao out worked and out lasted them.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 14 Feb 2008, 08:52

BAMBI wrote:Will & heart---mayorga!!

I didn't like the way he went down vs Trinidad and DLH.

Loftgroov · Post by **Loftgroov** » 14 Feb 2008, 08:56

Chin - Herbie Hide

Asterix · Post by **Asterix** » 14 Feb 2008, 09:15

stujones wrote:
Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:
Asterix wrote:How has Pacquiao got the best work rate? I'm looking at this and it's not adding up: http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.php?t ... ht:1174501
Before Sat, Williams had the best IMO. His fight with Mitchell was amazing. One round was 190 punches thrown.
Punch stats isn't the be all and end all... doesn't reflect the opponent or the occasion.

Morales and Barrera went hammer and tong at each other - and Pacquiao out worked and out lasted them.

For me, work rate is about how many punches a boxer throws.

assassin · Post by **assassin** » 14 Feb 2008, 09:19

stujones wrote:
BAMBI wrote:Will & heart---mayorga!!
I didn't like the way he went down vs Trinidad and DLH.

is that a joke?

Mayorga took a horrific beating off Trinidad, one of the most murderous punchers of the last 20 years. He was whacked all over in the 5th 6th and 7th round ands still came back for more. Dropped by a wicked left hook to the body in the 8th and got back up again.

I remember watching at the time and feeling sorry for him but was amazed at his courage.

He's got some balls no doubt

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 14 Feb 2008, 09:39

Asterix wrote:
stujones wrote:
Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote: Before Sat, Williams had the best IMO. His fight with Mitchell was amazing. One round was 190 punches thrown.
Punch stats isn't the be all and end all... doesn't reflect the opponent or the occasion.

Morales and Barrera went hammer and tong at each other - and Pacquiao out worked and out lasted them.
For me, work rate is about how many punches a boxer throws.

I would say that Calzaghe, amongst the top flight, and considering his weight, has the best work rate.

Calzaghe's shots are not the ineffectual type which many high workrate fighters employ, he hits with authority, stopping opponents in their tracks.

Poncey · Post by **Poncey** » 14 Feb 2008, 09:42

Which fight, active today, has the most effective defence?

IMO - Mayweather with Wright a close second.

Poncey · Post by **Poncey** » 14 Feb 2008, 09:43

Asterix wrote:
stujones wrote:
Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote: Before Sat, Williams had the best IMO. His fight with Mitchell was amazing. One round was 190 punches thrown.
Punch stats isn't the be all and end all... doesn't reflect the opponent or the occasion.

Morales and Barrera went hammer and tong at each other - and Pacquiao out worked and out lasted them.
For me, work rate is about how many punches a boxer throws.

I agree. Even if they don't land they can still be effective at keeping a fighter off balance, or break his concentration.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 14 Feb 2008, 10:22

Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:Which fight, active today, has the most effective defence?

IMO - Mayweather with Wright a close second.

I would say Mayweather followed by Hopkins.... love Wright's defense but taking a few punches of late.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 14 Feb 2008, 10:24

Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:
Asterix wrote:
stujones wrote: Punch stats isn't the be all and end all... doesn't reflect the opponent or the occasion.

Morales and Barrera went hammer and tong at each other - and Pacquiao out worked and out lasted them.
For me, work rate is about how many punches a boxer throws.
I agree. Even if they don't land they can still be effective at keeping a fighter off balance, or break his concentration.

In some cases yes, not all.... as Ricky now knows - plus in a situation where you know your not going to land, your not going to throw.... doesn't mean you have a poor workrate. Calzaghe has a great great workrate, but against Lacy he knew he was going to land time and time again - against Kessler... different matter.

n1ebf · Post by **n1ebf** » 15 Feb 2008, 11:04

Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:Which fight, active today, has the most effective defence?

IMO - Mayweather with Wright a close second.

well as it's Friday........................

i think there's noone out there with a better defence than Matthew Hatton.......box 3,000 miles away from your domestic rivals and they can't lay a glove on you.

BOOM BOOM !!!

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 15 Feb 2008, 11:08

stujones wrote:
Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:Which fight, active today, has the most effective defence?

IMO - Mayweather with Wright a close second.
I would say Mayweather followed by Hopkins.... love Wright's defense but taking a few punches of late.

You should watch Ivan Calderon, hit and not get hit.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 15 Feb 2008, 11:20

As opposed to Winky's defence which is don't hit and don't get hit.

Best right hand, left hook, chin etc in todays boxing

Best right hand, left hook, chin etc in todays boxing

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