Roids...

STP · Post by **STP** » 27 Feb 2008, 06:16

What percentage of boxers now, especially US and East Europe and HW, do you reckon are juiced up?

Even here. I have it on good authority that a champion fighter in Lancashire takes cortisone injections to assist his hips and elbows, apparently one of his trainers has connection with (Brian) Batcheldor or something.

Anyway, obviously very few are caught out... Roy Jones Jr, James Toney, Vitali Klitschko. But you'd need to be pretty naive not to know how easy it is to get the timing right and not 'fornicate up' as Mr Batcheldor likes to say.

Infact, according to Mr Batcheldor, who is connected to a boxing team up North, he's often had boxers 'visit him' down the years. Interesting.

boxingchat · Post by **boxingchat** » 27 Feb 2008, 06:28

Or have piles for that matter?

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 27 Feb 2008, 06:29

boxingchat wrote:Or have piles for that matter?

i had them so bad once, i was given steroid cream for them.

God knows what it did, but it worked.

E · Post by E » 27 Feb 2008, 06:40

Morrison said the majority of top heavies are, and frankly given the appalling drug testing in boxing it wouldn't surprise me.

You don't even have to look like Golota or McCLine to be a roider - even FRans Botha failed a test....

As for piles - I'm not sure, but according to a doctor there are two types of people

1. Those who have piles
2. Those who lie about having piles

Coco · Post by **Coco** » 28 Feb 2008, 00:08

Roids are for little blokes who were bullied at school

R_jay · Post by **R_jay** » 28 Feb 2008, 02:56

Cortisone is not an anabolic steroid.

Poncey · Post by **Poncey** » 28 Feb 2008, 06:07

RJJ did to get to HW.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 28 Feb 2008, 06:38

E wrote:Morrison said the majority of top heavies are, and frankly given the appalling drug testing in boxing it wouldn't surprise me.

You don't even have to look like Golota or McCLine to be a roider - even FRans Botha failed a test....

As for piles - I'm not sure, but according to a doctor there are two types of people

1. Those who have piles
2. Those who lie about having piles

It's a common misconception that taking steroids gives you a body beautiful, however it's not a shortcut the training still has to be done. They do however significantly improve recovery enabling the athlete concerned to train for longer and more often when they are in training. They can also aid in recovering from some injuries.

People were quick to dismiss Toney's first failed test on account of him being overweight but he still would have benefitted from using them even carrying around the paunch.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 28 Feb 2008, 06:49

nickd wrote:
E wrote:Morrison said the majority of top heavies are, and frankly given the appalling drug testing in boxing it wouldn't surprise me.

You don't even have to look like Golota or McCLine to be a roider - even FRans Botha failed a test....

As for piles - I'm not sure, but according to a doctor there are two types of people

1. Those who have piles
2. Those who lie about having piles
It's a common misconception that taking steroids gives you a body beautiful, however it's not a shortcut the training still has to be done. They do however significantly improve recovery enabling the athlete concerned to train for longer and more often when they are in training. They can also aid in recovering from some injuries.

People were quick to dismiss Toney's first failed test on account of him being overweight but he still would have benefitted from using them even carrying around the paunch.

I recall Toney playing to that cliche, saying something of this ilk, "I can't have taken steroids, look at me I'm a fat bastard." However, the substances he tested for post Ruiz can help in shifting large amounts of weight. Given that he was terribly out of shape when he took the fight, at only what (I believe) was just over a month's notice, it's safe to say he needed 'em.

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 28 Feb 2008, 07:19

nickd wrote:
E wrote:Morrison said the majority of top heavies are, and frankly given the appalling drug testing in boxing it wouldn't surprise me.

You don't even have to look like Golota or McCLine to be a roider - even FRans Botha failed a test....

As for piles - I'm not sure, but according to a doctor there are two types of people

1. Those who have piles
2. Those who lie about having piles
It's a common misconception that taking steroids gives you a body beautiful, however it's not a shortcut the training still has to be done. They do however significantly improve recovery enabling the athlete concerned to train for longer and more often when they are in training. They can also aid in recovering from some injuries.

People were quick to dismiss Toney's first failed test on account of him being overweight but he still would have benefitted from using them even carrying around the paunch.

I thought Toney tested positive for a stamina increasing drug

Poncey · Post by **Poncey** » 28 Feb 2008, 07:24

Chambers2 wrote:
nickd wrote:
E wrote:Morrison said the majority of top heavies are, and frankly given the appalling drug testing in boxing it wouldn't surprise me.

You don't even have to look like Golota or McCLine to be a roider - even FRans Botha failed a test....

As for piles - I'm not sure, but according to a doctor there are two types of people

1. Those who have piles
2. Those who lie about having piles
It's a common misconception that taking steroids gives you a body beautiful, however it's not a shortcut the training still has to be done. They do however significantly improve recovery enabling the athlete concerned to train for longer and more often when they are in training. They can also aid in recovering from some injuries.

People were quick to dismiss Toney's first failed test on account of him being overweight but he still would have benefitted from using them even carrying around the paunch.
I thought Toney tested positive for a stamina increasing drug

Nandrolone if memory serves

HughJohnson · Post by **HughJohnson** » 28 Feb 2008, 14:03

I may get shot for saying this but HGH(human growth) is rife and near undetectable if taken correctly. :(

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 28 Feb 2008, 14:16

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/front_page/3101343.stm

Info on HGH.

Wonder If this guy took them, his bone density Is big for a 5ft 11 man.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6ziOhn-rD7Y&feature=related

Poncey · Post by **Poncey** » 28 Feb 2008, 14:30

Max Molyneux wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/front_page/3101343.stm

Info on HGH.

Wonder If this guy took them, his bone density Is big for a 5ft 11 man.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6ziOhn-rD7Y&feature=related

I've seen a picture of him with a mate and his bicep is the size of his head!

By a country mile, the best bodybuilder there has ever been.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 28 Feb 2008, 14:41

Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/front_page/3101343.stm

Info on HGH.

Wonder If this guy took them, his bone density Is big for a 5ft 11 man.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6ziOhn-rD7Y&feature=related
I've seen a picture of him with a mate and his bicep is the size of his head!

By a country mile, the best bodybuilder there has ever been.

Flex looked better than him In this 1999 Olympia.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=LSQR7ENflq8&feature=related

Ronnie's just a mass monster.

n1ebf · Post by **n1ebf** » 28 Feb 2008, 15:40

Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/front_page/3101343.stm

Info on HGH.

Wonder If this guy took them, his bone density Is big for a 5ft 11 man.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6ziOhn-rD7Y&feature=related
I've seen a picture of him with a mate and his bicep is the size of his head!

By a country mile, the best bodybuilder there has ever been.

Bet he's not as good as a certain former bodybuilder with the catchphrase "I'll be back".
More like "wooo, yeah buddy, I'll be back, eee hee Michael Jackson like".

Poncey · Post by **Poncey** » 28 Feb 2008, 16:19

In answer to you both, you can't argue with 8 Mr Olympia wins (Arnold only got 6, and the last one was dodgy).

beagleboy · Post by **beagleboy** » 28 Feb 2008, 16:32

STP wrote:What percentage of boxers now, especially US and East Europe and HW, do you reckon are juiced up?

Even here. I have it on good authority that a champion fighter in Lancashire takes cortisone injections to assist his hips and elbows, apparently one of his trainers has connection with (Brian) Batcheldor or something.

Anyway, obviously very few are caught out... Roy Jones Jr, James Toney, Vitali Klitschko. But you'd need to be pretty naive not to know how easy it is to get the timing right and not 'eff up' as Mr Batcheldor likes to say.

Infact, according to Mr Batcheldor, who is connected to a boxing team up North, he's often had boxers 'visit him' down the years. Interesting.

Don't be a tease STP
Which champ? and which gym up North?

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 29 Feb 2008, 04:47

Has anybody seen the documentery 'The man whose arm exploded' ?

Now thats serious roid' use, one scene shows the mad f*cker stabbing his bicep with a needle to draw all the blood out.

Poncey · Post by **Poncey** » 29 Feb 2008, 05:08

Old bones Ian wrote:Has anybody seen the documentery 'The man whose arm exploded' ?

Now thats serious roid' use, one scene shows the mad f*cker stabbing his bicep with a needle to draw all the blood out.

I did, and it wasn't nice.

mike john · Post by **mike john** » 29 Feb 2008, 05:59

Old bones Ian wrote:Has anybody seen the documentery 'The man whose arm exploded' ?

Now thats serious roid' use, one scene shows the mad f*cker stabbing his bicep with a needle to draw all the blood out.

that guy did juice, but his ridiculous size was down to injecting synthol oil directly into his muscles.

Asterix · Post by **Asterix** » 29 Feb 2008, 09:00

Old bones Ian wrote:Has anybody seen the documentery 'The man whose arm exploded' ?

Now thats serious roid' use, one scene shows the mad f*cker stabbing his bicep with a needle to draw all the blood out.

Yeah, that was crazy, and I think the guy was pretty proud of what he did.

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 29 Feb 2008, 09:07

Asterix wrote:
Old bones Ian wrote:Has anybody seen the documentery 'The man whose arm exploded' ?

Now thats serious roid' use, one scene shows the mad f*cker stabbing his bicep with a needle to draw all the blood out.
Yeah, that was crazy, and I think the guy was pretty proud of what he did.

Yeah was wierd wasn't it, he kept showing the home video of himself draining all the fluid out of his arm , and he put it on at the local gym.

http://www.five.tv/programmes/hiddenlives/armsexploded/

E · Post by E » 29 Feb 2008, 09:07

Asterix wrote:
Old bones Ian wrote:Has anybody seen the documentery 'The man whose arm exploded' ?

Now thats serious roid' use, one scene shows the mad f*cker stabbing his bicep with a needle to draw all the blood out.
Yeah, that was crazy, and I think the guy was pretty proud of what he did.

This is the idiot.

The guy came accross as quite funny and likeable in the documentary funnily enough.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 29 Feb 2008, 09:57

Old bones Ian wrote:Has anybody seen the documentery 'The man whose arm exploded' ?

Now thats serious roid' use, one scene shows the mad f*cker stabbing his bicep with a needle to draw all the blood out.

Greg Valentino Is funny though but damn that was disgusting.

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