Hypothetical Match-Up Game

HomicideHenry · Post by **HomicideHenry** » 28 Feb 2008, 14:00

Pretty simple this is, make up a hypothetical match-up, and the person below makes their own prediction [please dont go off into a rant as to why and what have you, lets leave that to more serious thread debates] and post their own hypothetical dream match.

First up: JIMMY WILDE vs RINTY MONAGAHN [sorry for any spelling mistakes]

Seamus · Post by **Seamus** » 28 Feb 2008, 14:18

Jimmy Wilde WUD 15 Rinty Monaghan. Monaghan had a great chin, and I think he'd survive to lose a very clear decision.

NEXT UP

Henry Armstrong vs Sandy Saddler. 15 rounds at Featherweight. AND, how many pts get deducted.

HomicideHenry · Post by **HomicideHenry** » 28 Feb 2008, 14:25

Armstrong WMD15 rounds over Sandy Saddler...points deducted

hence why the fight was so close...

Marcel Cerdan-Jake LaMotta 2 [had the rematch happened]

Ezzard · Post by **Ezzard** » 29 Feb 2008, 09:09

HomicideHenry wrote:Armstrong WMD15 rounds over Sandy Saddler...points deducted hence why the fight was so close...

Marcel Cerdan-Jake LaMotta 2 [had the rematch happened]

Cerdan wins a close but clear points decision...

Robinson v Burley

Ambling Alp · Post by **Ambling Alp** » 29 Feb 2008, 10:06

Robinson wins a close, but clear decision.

Next up:
Michael Spinks vs Gene Tunney at lightheavyweight.

Seamus · Post by **Seamus** » 29 Feb 2008, 10:26

Gene Tunney WUD 15 Michael Spinks

Spinks is one of the division's most durable fighters of all time, but Tunney is too slick, smart and tough when he needs to be. Tunney by 4, 4 and 3 pts.

Next up.

Les Darcy vs Mike Gibbons

I love both of these guys so I don't know who I'd be pulling for, the Irish-Australian or the Irish-American.

HomicideHenry · Post by **HomicideHenry** » 29 Feb 2008, 17:11

Gibbons, The Phantom of St. Paul, wins that one via decision

Stanley Ketchell vs Bob Fitzsimmons [middleweight] 8)

Seamus · Post by **Seamus** » 02 Mar 2008, 20:20

While I think Fitzsimmons was a little better in a PFP sense, I feel Ketchel was the better Middleweight, and so I'd pick him to win a very close hard fought decision over Fitz with quite possibly a trip to the canvas for both men.

NEXT UP
Jack Johnson vs Sam Langford 45 rounds IN 1913

Robinson · Post by **Robinson** » 02 Mar 2008, 20:27

Johnson beats an explosive and in and out Langford.

He bores the crowd with his slapping and grabing style.

The last 15 rounds are slow, and almost waltz like.

It is ruled a NO Decision but those present feel that Johnson wins
most the rounds.

HomicideHenry · Post by **HomicideHenry** » 03 Mar 2008, 01:43

You forgot to post up a hypothetical match up Kym...

Robinson · Post by **Robinson** » 03 Mar 2008, 17:17

Ooops sorry :)

Ok James J Jefferies 6'2 218lb Vs Denver Ed Matin 6'6 1/2" 210lb, 1903.
The fight is set for 20 rounds in Colorado.

The fight is set after Martin has gone to war against Johnson.

Lets assume that Jefferies is not racist and takes the fight.

Would the tall and athletic Martin be able to keep the strong powerhouse
Jefferies at bay ?

Kym

torodecayey · Post by **torodecayey** » 03 Mar 2008, 21:46

Jeffries by late stoppage some sources list denver ed at 6'3
i think jeffries roughs him up enough for a stoppage

Edwin Rosario vs Lew Jenkins

bobbyd · Post by **bobbyd** » 04 Mar 2008, 03:40

torodecayey wrote:Jeffries by late stoppage some sources list denver ed at 6'3
i think jeffries roughs him up enough for a stoppage

Edwin Rosario vs Lew Jenkins

rosario by md in a rough tough brawlin battle.

willie pep(pre plane crash) vs. manny pacquiou at jr lw...15 rds.

HomicideHenry · Post by **HomicideHenry** » 04 Mar 2008, 03:49

Ooops sorry

Ok James J Jefferies 6'2 218lb Vs Denver Ed Matin 6'6 1/2" 210lb, 1903.
The fight is set for 20 rounds in Colorado.

The fight is set after Martin has gone to war against Johnson.

Lets assume that Jefferies is not racist and takes the fight.

Would the tall and athletic Martin be able to keep the strong powerhouse
Jefferies at bay ?

Kym

According to CBZ this hypothetical match-up actually was reported to have occured, and Jeffries won via KO, as well as a KO win over black contender Frank Childs [mind you, reported but not yet confirmed]. As far as the 'wasnt racist' comment, his first opponent ffs was black and a veteran of over 100 fights supposedly and Jeffries won by KO in 14 rounds, and he fought Peter Jackson as well, and til the day he died used Jackson as his measure of comparison to his later opponents.

Anyways....

Willie Pep UD15 over The Pac Man...sorry but Pep was the greatest defensive fighter I ever read about and seen on film, Manny wouldn't been able to catch him even if he threw a handful of salt at him.

Gene Tunney vs Archie Moore, 15 rounds

bobbyd · Post by **bobbyd** » 04 Mar 2008, 03:57

HomicideHenry wrote:
Ooops sorry

Ok James J Jefferies 6'2 218lb Vs Denver Ed Matin 6'6 1/2" 210lb, 1903.
The fight is set for 20 rounds in Colorado.

The fight is set after Martin has gone to war against Johnson.

Lets assume that Jefferies is not racist and takes the fight.

Would the tall and athletic Martin be able to keep the strong powerhouse
Jefferies at bay ?

Kym
According to CBZ this hypothetical match-up actually was reported to have occured, and Jeffries won via KO, as well as a KO win over black contender Frank Childs [mind you, reported but not yet confirmed]. As far as the 'wasnt racist' comment, his first opponent ffs was black and a veteran of over 100 fights supposedly and Jeffries won by KO in 14 rounds, and he fought Peter Jackson as well, and til the day he died used Jackson as his measure of comparison to his later opponents.

Anyways....

Willie Pep UD15 over The Pac Man...sorry but Pep was the greatest defensive fighter I ever read about and seen on film, Manny wouldn't been able to catch him even if he threw a handful of salt at him.

Gene Tunney vs Archie Moore, 15 rounds

tunney and moore both at they're peak in the LHW div.i see a mixture of toe to toe,clinching,manuevering and measuring one another.a real genuine chess match.tunney wins a sd over 15 grueling rds.

sandy saddler vs. salvador sanchez in a 15 rounder.

HomicideHenry · Post by **HomicideHenry** » 04 Mar 2008, 04:01

Now thats a fornicating match up @ Sanchez vs Saddler...

A grueling hard fought foul fest with plenty of skill and guts piled on, with Sanchez squeaking out a majority decision victory...that's just my take on it...

George Chuvalo vs Earnie Shavers, 15 rounds

bobbyd · Post by **bobbyd** » 04 Mar 2008, 04:10

HomicideHenry wrote:Now thats a effing match up @ Sanchez vs Saddler...

A grueling hard fought foul fest with plenty of skill and guts piled on, with Sanchez squeaking out a majority decision victory...that's just my take on it...

George Chuvalo vs Earnie Shavers, 15 rounds

prime vs prime of course.otherwise earnie runs outta gas in this one and is stopped like he was against cobb.

yeah,the earnie of 74-79 would win by ud.rocks chuvalo various times but chuvalo has an iron jaw of course and doesnt go down despite alotta oos and ahhs heard from the crowd.

rocky graziano vs. juan domingo roldan in a 15 rd'er.

Goodnight, Irene · Post by **Goodnight, Irene** » 04 Mar 2008, 06:00

Just imagine someone like Jay Nady refereeing Saddler-Sanchez. He'd have a heart attack.

Nady between rounds--->

Robinson · Post by **Robinson** » 04 Mar 2008, 18:30

I was refering to him and his racism when he was a champ...at that time of 1903.

I had read in a few other sources that he had not faced Martin and I have read else where that he was 6'4-6'7!.

Imagine any modern refering a Saddler fight :P

witherspoon · Post by **witherspoon** » 04 Mar 2008, 20:09

bobbyd wrote:
HomicideHenry wrote:Now thats a effing match up @ Sanchez vs Saddler...

A grueling hard fought foul fest with plenty of skill and guts piled on, with Sanchez squeaking out a majority decision victory...that's just my take on it...

George Chuvalo vs Earnie Shavers, 15 rounds

prime vs prime of course.otherwise earnie runs outta gas in this one and is stopped like he was against cobb.

yeah,the earnie of 74-79 would win by ud.rocks chuvalo various times but chuvalo has an iron jaw of course and doesnt go down despite alotta oos and ahhs heard from the crowd.

rocky graziano vs. juan domingo roldan in a 15 rd'er.

Graziano by close SD, both fighters down, Graziano wins by late rally taking the last 1-2 rounds. But CLOSE - good match-up.

Mike McCallum v Bernard Hopkins at Middleweight, prime on prime.

I Feel Fine · Post by **I Feel Fine** » 04 Mar 2008, 21:06

I'll say Hopkins by SD.

Benny Leonard vs. Henry Armstrong at 135

Robinson · Post by **Robinson** » 04 Mar 2008, 21:18

Hurricane Hank by decision, out works Leoonard.

Jack Dempsey (185lb) Vs Max Schmelling (188lb) peak for peak....
15 rounds. Held in Berlin, Germany.

How you see it ?

I Feel Fine · Post by **I Feel Fine** » 04 Mar 2008, 21:31

Well you wonder about Germany, but all and all I think peak Dempsey could get to Schmeling and win by TKO in 8.

One ineresting side note is that Schmeling was noted as being something of a Dempsey look-alike. If you look at them they do look very similar.

HomicideHenry · Post by **HomicideHenry** » 04 Mar 2008, 23:39

Feel, you forgot to post up your own hypothetical

Goodnight, Irene · Post by **Goodnight, Irene** » 04 Mar 2008, 23:44

I've always felt that way looking at Dempsey & Schmeling. Quite similar.