Thinking about Howard Daley...

[el_grande_mauro_mina]

I saw a couple of Howard Daley's unlicensed fights on 'you tube' and I have thought about his subsequent career from fighting on unliscenced shows to fighting two ABA champions subsequently.

With the rise of white collar boxing, do you think there is a place in professional boxing for boxing novices (who can pass the boxing medical of course) to fight and learn their trade in the pro rings?

Have a seperate rankings for these novice pros - as long as they can fight each other over either 4 rounds or 6 rounds and if they are deemed to be able to fight to a certain standard then promote them into the British rankings.

A lot of guys for whatever reason don't get to fight as an amateur in their youth but I think this is a good idea for guys who take up the sport in their later years (Payney! ) and fancy testing their mettle in a fight over 4 rounds.

It would be good for boxing as a lot of these guys will bring support and buy tickets thus bringing more exposure to boxing.

There would be more shows.

Boxing might unearth some hidden gems.

What do you think?

[DavidPayne]

You can't have a seperate channel. Should be one set of regs etc otehrwise nobody knows their arse from their elbow.

BTW, nearly finished Dancing Shoes is Dead.

[el_grande_mauro_mina]

BTW, nearly finished Dancing Shoes is Dead.

What do you think?

[DavidPayne]

Got a bit bogged down half way through in the political stuff, interesting read, but I'm finding aspects repetitive to be honest.

And to say he was on hit-list etc its rather undramatic when perhaps it could be more edge of your seat but then Evans was often unaware of the level of danger he was in at times.

Made want to see some more Malinga fights on youtube too.

[m1kee50]

I saw a couple of Howard Daley's unlicensed fights on 'you tube' and I have thought about his subsequent career from fighting on unliscenced shows to fighting two ABA champions subsequently.

With the rise of white collar boxing, do you think there is a place in professional boxing for boxing novices (who can pass the boxing medical of course) to fight and learn their trade in the pro rings?

Have a seperate rankings for these novice pros - as long as they can fight each other over either 4 rounds or 6 rounds and if they are deemed to be able to fight to a certain standard then promote them into the British rankings.

A lot of guys for whatever reason don't get to fight as an amateur in their youth but I think this is a good idea for guys who take up the sport in their later years (Payney! ) and fancy testing their mettle in a fight over 4 rounds.

It would be good for boxing as a lot of these guys will bring support and buy tickets thus bringing more exposure to boxing.

There would be more shows.

Boxing might unearth some hidden gems.

What do you think?

Tom Glover, Mickey Steele.... fighters have come from the 'unlicensed' ranks to the full pros, Dominic Negus went the other way of course

[demolitiondaley]

Hey Carlos, nice one for the mention pal. I believe everyone deserves a shot. But obviously not everyone can just jump in and have a go. As well as the medicals/brain scan etc because I had no amatuer record I had to have a sparring exhibition in front of a BBBC representative. I sparred Mark Hobson and Tony Bellew and the board passed me. Its been a hard slog but I'm here now and I'm going to make the most of it. I want a fight every month if possible to get the experience that I lack as quick as I can. I'm fighting on the 29th Feb in Plymouth against Ben Harding. He's 1-0-0 and I think has amatuer experience but dont know. Heavyweights have a longer shelf life than most which is good for me being 31. Skelton is 41 now so I'm a spring chicken really . I'll take any fight at any notice as long as I can get the night of work. I'm aiming high and wont give up. Hopefully get some local northwest fights again soon.

[Old bones Ian]

Think Harding was an ABA finalist.

You know you've arrived now Howard, your very own thread on Boxrec

[Wax On]

Fair play to Howard, he's one of the bravest lads I've seen, got a great heart and a good chin, but it's tough competing against guys with so much more experience and as a result much higher levels of skill.

Maybe there is a need for a class of boxing between the pro and unlicensed?? Where late starters can learn the ropes without losing as many teeth as Howard

Keep up the good work though mate. Good luck in the next fight!!

[sweetscience]

Fair play to Howard, he's one of the bravest lads I've seen, got a great heart and a good chin, but it's tough competing against guys with so much more experience and as a result much higher levels of skill.

Maybe there is a need for a class of boxing between the pro and unlicensed?? Where late starters can learn the ropes without losing as many teeth as Howard

Keep up the good work though mate. Good luck in the next fight!!

there is a place - its called the amatuers

dont turn pro without them

[el_grande_mauro_mina]

Fair play to Howard, he's one of the bravest lads I've seen, got a great heart and a good chin, but it's tough competing against guys with so much more experience and as a result much higher levels of skill.

Maybe there is a need for a class of boxing between the pro and unlicensed?? Where late starters can learn the ropes without losing as many teeth as Howard

Keep up the good work though mate. Good luck in the next fight!!

there is a place - its called the amatuers

dont turn pro without them

But the world isn't that simple, a lot of boxers with talent aren't in the sport by the time they are 18 and with the age limit laws are not able to compete as an amateur , why can't a fit, focused boxer who wants to compete do so?

It looks like the nonsensical rules the IABA have put up are not going away anytime soon. I saw Howards fight with Jamie Leaff on youtube and I think there is a place for them in the pro ranks. Where they can learn the ropes over 4 rounds whilst bringing interest/support to the game and if they show talent/promise etc then move them up to open competiton?

One of the main obstacles of promoters these days is filling undercards, this would be a good way to putting bums on seats and filling undercards whilst giving boxers who have took the sport up in later life the chance to compete.

[DavidPayne]

[quote="Carlos-Wigan"]

A lot of guys for whatever reason don't get to fight as an amateur in their youth but I think this is a good idea for guys who take up the sport in their later years (Payney! ) and fancy testing their mettle in a fight over 4 rounds.

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I'd sell no more than three tickets and wouldn't last 15 seconds. But thanks for the mention:-)

[el_grande_mauro_mina]

A lot of guys for whatever reason don't get to fight as an amateur in their youth but I think this is a good idea for guys who take up the sport in their later years (Payney! ) and fancy testing their mettle in a fight over 4 rounds.

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I'd sell no more than three tickets and wouldn't last 15 seconds. But thanks for the mention:-)

You are being harsh on yourself! you'd sell at least 4 tickets as I would pay to watch Yorkshires next cruiserweight sensation!

[sweetscience]

i dont see whats wrong with the set up now

unlicenced - for the lads who arnt quite good enough for top am & pro level or just want a go

amatuers - for lads who want to box at a high standard & develope the skills for the pro game

Pro's - who have gone as far as they can go in the am's & can competitly compete with other pro's of a simerlar level and journeymen

im going to my first unlicenced show on friday - so i will have a better view on that side of boxing then - but at the minute my impression of the same is that they are mostly shite pub brawlers - but we will see

[demolitiondaley]

Thanks Billy and everyone who has shown an interest. Last night was my best fight yet I reckon, it was brutal and we both ended up with lumps on lumps. Thanks to anyone who came to watch. I'm just happy that I'm improving and giving entertaining fights. I'm fighting in two weeks at Old Trafford against Tony Booth. Its a dinner do and if anyone wants tickets I've got a tenner knocked off for pals. Look me up on facebook if you fancy it.

Also I'm trying to get on that contender show that your on Billy. My manager has put my name forward. Every show needs a good underdog