Hearns vs Benitez

ringsider · Post by **ringsider** » 01 Mar 2008, 18:03

silkov wrote:Talking of plodding, both you guys need to get new acts!... at the moment your great cures for insomina!... 8)

You just don't like my opinion because it shatters your Hagler illusion. Boo-hoo....

Elton John · Post by **Elton John** » 01 Mar 2008, 18:33

ringsider wrote:Fact of the matter is Hagler's dumbass tried to fight orthodox for the first 4 rounds, and he gave them away by doing so. Hagler thought in his little plodding pea brain that he was actually a boxer and could box with Leonard. Well we saw what happened there. You know you Hagler "nuthuggers" keep saying he was past his prime and blah, blah, blah......Leonard was way past his best too. But in their primes Sugar Ray would have given Hagler a lesson in the sweet science. Hagler got beat.....learn to live with it. He was MW queen at a time that there were no real MW.

Don't forget that had a point been taken away from Leonard for holding as some wanted, he still would have won the split decision. That is just the way it is. Sugar Ray dominated the plodding MW king and exposed him for the poorly skilled boxer he was.

Hopefully, not the kind of lesson that Norris gave to him. You know you leonard nuthuggers keep saying he was past his prime and blah, blah, blah..... Terry just kicked his ass - just come out and admit it.

Terry Norris is a better fighter than that media queen could hope to be. If he weren't he would never have dominated in the manner shown.

I think it was terrible the way Ref Mercante scolded Terry for that late hit. Leonard gets to hit late, why doesn't anyone scold him? He even drove in a groin shot on Hagler with no warning. And I agree, we all knew Leonard only had to last the distance for an automatic win.

Thank God for Norris that he wasn't one of those old farts of the late 80's bevcause if he were, I never would have gotten to see the bitchslapping of 1991.

Elton John · Post by **Elton John** » 01 Mar 2008, 18:36

ringsider wrote:So what are you doing Granpaberry? Are you trying to compare the fluid and gracefulness of Ali with the plodding tripping stumbling off balance Hagler?

You need to get a new doctor and new meds.

Gracefulness of Ali? Ali spent most of his career as punching bag!

ringsider · Post by **ringsider** » 01 Mar 2008, 21:25

Elton John wrote:
ringsider wrote:So what are you doing Granpaberry? Are you trying to compare the fluid and gracefulness of Ali with the plodding tripping stumbling off balance Hagler?

You need to get a new doctor and new meds.
Gracefulness of Ali? Ali spent most of his career as punching bag!

Yeh OK.....

granberry · Post by **granberry** » 01 Mar 2008, 22:25

Media-indoctrinated buzz is reduced to following others around boxrec and offering juvenile attempts at snide remarks.

Buzz has never made a post concerning boxing, since he doesn't know what it is.

And he never will.

For the media-indoctrinated,

running for your life interspersed with grabbing and holding on for dear life,

and then collecting your automatic decision "win" if you manage to last the distance

equals "the greatest of all time."

jomothepure · Post by **jomothepure** » 01 Mar 2008, 23:14

Sir, you are superb. Keep it up.

Goodnight, Irene · Post by **Goodnight, Irene** » 01 Mar 2008, 23:18

How did Hearns-Benitez become about Ali!?

ringsider · Post by **ringsider** » 02 Mar 2008, 00:01

Goodnight, Irene wrote:How did Hearns-Benitez become about Ali!?

I wondered that too......

I Feel Fine · Post by **I Feel Fine** » 02 Mar 2008, 00:12

I had Hearns winning pretty clearly. Benitez showed great defense, as usual, but Hearns' jab and length made the difference. I've seen all of Hearns' biggest fights lots and lots of times, but this is one I've only seen once. I should watch it again. Hearns is probably one of my top ten favorite fighters, but he doesn't seem to come up much on this site. And I like Benitez a lot too.

Another thing that should be said is that this fight started the title reign of arguably the best Jr. Middleweight champion of all time. Tommy was awesome at 154.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 02 Mar 2008, 05:00

granberry wrote:HOW DO YOU THINK Benitez would do against Bruce Curry ?

LOL

Great, great performance by Curry, who was robbed under the old 'rounds' scoring system.

elmersalsa · Post by **elmersalsa** » 02 Mar 2008, 06:20

I Feel Fine wrote:I had Hearns winning pretty clearly. Benitez showed great defense, as usual, but Hearns' jab and length made the difference. I've seen all of Hearns' biggest fights lots and lots of times, but this is one I've only seen once. I should watch it again. Hearns is probably one of my top ten favorite fighters, but he doesn't seem to come up much on this site. And I like Benitez a lot too.

Another thing that should be said is that this fight started the title reign of arguably the best Jr. Middleweight champion of all time. Tommy was awesome at 154.

NO doubt about that, at 154lbs, Tommy looked too awesome...He would've destroyed Leonard at that weight class, especially, the night that he came to fight against Duran and Leonard a month before vs Kevin Howard...If Hearns would have been the opponent instead, the boxing history pages would have been VERY DIFFERENT. HEARNS WOULD HAVE BLASTED HIM JUST LIKE HE DID DURAN.

elmersalsa · Post by **elmersalsa** » 02 Mar 2008, 06:21

I Feel Fine wrote:I had Hearns winning pretty clearly. Benitez showed great defense, as usual, but Hearns' jab and length made the difference. I've seen all of Hearns' biggest fights lots and lots of times, but this is one I've only seen once. I should watch it again. Hearns is probably one of my top ten favorite fighters, but he doesn't seem to come up much on this site. And I like Benitez a lot too.

Another thing that should be said is that this fight started the title reign of arguably the best Jr. Middleweight champion of all time. Tommy was awesome at 154.

NO doubt about that, at 154lbs, Tommy looked too awesome...He would've destroyed Leonard at that weight class, especially, the night that he came to fight against Duran and Leonard a month before vs Kevin Howard...If Hearns would have been the opponent instead, the boxing history pages would have been VERY DIFFERENT. HEARNS WOULD HAVE BLASTED HIM JUST LIKE HE DID DURAN.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 02 Mar 2008, 06:28

I thought he didn't do enough at 154lbs after trouncing Benitez. He licked Hutchings and Duran, for sure, but looked horrible against Medal and also struggled against Minichillo.
That was about it.

Elton John · Post by **Elton John** » 02 Mar 2008, 09:55

ringsider wrote:
Elton John wrote:
ringsider wrote:So what are you doing Granpaberry? Are you trying to compare the fluid and gracefulness of Ali with the plodding tripping stumbling off balance Hagler?

You need to get a new doctor and new meds.
Gracefulness of Ali? Ali spent most of his career as punching bag!
Yeh OK.....

Well he was. He was a punching bag for Berbick, Holmes, Spinks, Norton (fights 1,2,3) Frazier (Fights1,2,3) spent most of the time as Ron Lyle's punching bag. Bonavena, Foreman, and Chuvalo got some pretty good use out of him as well.

Honestly, if you had any idea of what you were talking about you wouldn't be making these outrageous remarks.

ringsider · Post by **ringsider** » 02 Mar 2008, 10:36

Elton John wrote:
ringsider wrote:
Elton John wrote: Gracefulness of Ali? Ali spent most of his career as punching bag!
Yeh OK.....
Well he was. He was a punching bag for Berbick, Holmes, Spinks, Norton (fights 1,2,3) Frazier (Fights1,2,3) spent most of the time as Ron Lyle's punching bag. Bonavena, Foreman, and Chuvalo got some pretty good use out of him as well.

Honestly, if you had any idea of what you were talking about you wouldn't be making these outrageous remarks.

Yeh OK......

Elton John · Post by **Elton John** » 02 Mar 2008, 12:06

"Ali-Leonard legacy"