British Top 30 P4P March 2008

Horse · Post by **Horse** » 01 Mar 2008, 19:35

1. (1.) Joe Calzaghe
2. (2.) Ricky Hatton
3. (3.) David Haye
4. (4.) Junior Witter
5. (5.) Clinton Woods
6. (6.) Alex Arthur
7. (7.) Enzo Maccarinelli
8. (8.) Carl Froch
9. (9.) Scott Harrison
10. (10.) Gavin Rees

11. (11.) Jamie Moore
12. (12.) Nicky Cook
13. (13.) Bernard Dunne
14. (14.) Matt Skelton
15. (15.) John Duddy
16. (16.) Colin Lynes
17. (23.) Amir Khan
18. (17.) Wayne Elcock
19. (18.) Wayne McCullough
20. (19.) Ted Bami

21. (25.) Kevin McIntyre
22. (20.) Michael Hunter
23. (21.) Carl Johanneson
24. (22.) Jonathan Thaxton
25. (24.) Howard Eastman
26. (RE.) Tony Oakey
27. (RE.) Michael Jennings
28. (26.) Bradley Pryce
29. (27.) Ian Napa
30. (29.) John Simpson

Out - (28.) Kevin Anderson
Out - (30.) Brian Magee

Horse · Post by **Horse** » 01 Mar 2008, 19:35

Any comments, criticisms or P4P lists are very welcome.

JDC · Post by **JDC** » 01 Mar 2008, 19:47

Scott Harrison?

Does the 12 month inactivity rule not apply to him? He hasnt fought for over 2 years

observer1 · Post by **observer1** » 01 Mar 2008, 20:39

11 onwards is debatable...

I would Swap Khan with Duddy

observer1 · Post by **observer1** » 01 Mar 2008, 23:50

danny williams in at 30 too

MBP · Post by **MBP** » 02 Mar 2008, 08:55

JDC wrote:Scott Harrison?

Does the 12 month inactivity rule not apply to him? He hasnt fought for over 2 years

The same as Wayne McCullough,

I like Hunter but after watching his last fight i dont think he'l be doing much at Feather or S.Feather...

Horse · Post by **Horse** » 02 Mar 2008, 12:20

JDC wrote:Scott Harrison?

Does the 12 month inactivity rule not apply to him? He hasnt fought for over 2 years

There is no 12 month inactivity rule in effect. If a fighter has not retired then I class them as active.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 02 Mar 2008, 12:25

Still no Derry Matthews?

Ash-Weston · Post by **Ash-Weston** » 02 Mar 2008, 12:35

Yeah what about Derry Matthews? Good point!. Why is Scott Harrison at nine?

Dioufy · Post by **Dioufy** » 02 Mar 2008, 12:37

God man, where is Kevin Mitchell?

Ash-Weston · Post by **Ash-Weston** » 02 Mar 2008, 12:53

Kevin Mitchell has been knocking out bums to get his record.Doesnt deserve a P4P ranking IMO

MBP · Post by **MBP** » 02 Mar 2008, 15:04

Ash-Weston wrote:Kevin Mitchell has been knocking out bums to get his record.Doesnt deserve a P4P ranking IMO

So what he smashes CJ then you will rate him, the kid is class

Horse · Post by **Horse** » 02 Mar 2008, 15:15

observer1 wrote:11 onwards is debatable...

I would Swap Khan with Duddy

I can see why you might want to do that, but Duddy has beaten the better opposition so far (Just about) and is closer to a World title shot than Khan.

observer1 wrote:danny williams in at 30 too

Williams could well re-enter the list at some point, but he has to beat a decent challenger before he can come back. Unfortunately, his last fight was a no contest so I couldn't bring him back, but if his proposed fight with James Toney comes off then he has a great opportunity to re-enter the list into quite a respectable position.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 02 Mar 2008, 15:18

Horse wrote:
observer1 wrote:11 onwards is debatable...

I would Swap Khan with Duddy
I can see why you might want to do that, but Duddy has beaten the better opposition so far (Just about) and is closer to a World title shot than Khan.

observer1 wrote:danny williams in at 30 too
Williams could well re-enter the list at some point, but he has to beat a decent challenger before he can come back. Unfortunately, his last fight was a no contest so I couldn't bring him back, but if his proposed fight with James Toney comes off then he has a great opportunity to re-enter the list into quite a respectable position.

Is Duddy closer to a world title shot. Khan is ranked in the top 15 with ALL of the governing bodies, and ranked 6 by Fightnews and 6 on the Boxrec computer system (I don't agree with those lofty positions). He is also fighting Kristjansen in an eliminator.

There is surely a chance Khan will fight for a world title in the Summer... Duddy won't.

Horse · Post by **Horse** » 02 Mar 2008, 17:33

MBP wrote:
JDC wrote:Scott Harrison?

Does the 12 month inactivity rule not apply to him? He hasnt fought for over 2 years
The same as Wayne McCullough,

I like Hunter but after watching his last fight i dont think he'l be doing much at Feather or S.Feather...

I believe he is moving back down to Super Bantamweight.

Horse · Post by **Horse** » 02 Mar 2008, 20:09

stujones wrote:Still no Derry Matthews?

He hasn't beaten anyone of note recently. A win in his scheduled fight with stephen Foster should be enough to see him enter.

JDC · Post by **JDC** » 02 Mar 2008, 20:24

Horse wrote:
JDC wrote:Scott Harrison?

Does the 12 month inactivity rule not apply to him? He hasnt fought for over 2 years
There is no 12 month inactivity rule in effect. If a fighter has not retired then I class them as active.

Dont understand the logic there. How can you compaire recent bouts if he hasn't had any?

slapbangwhallop · Post by **slapbangwhallop** » 03 Mar 2008, 04:55

JDC wrote:
Horse wrote:
JDC wrote:Scott Harrison?

Does the 12 month inactivity rule not apply to him? He hasnt fought for over 2 years
There is no 12 month inactivity rule in effect. If a fighter has not retired then I class them as active.
Dont understand the logic there. How can you compaire recent bouts if he hasn't had any?

With the inclusion of Dunne and Duddy it looks like a British and Irish P4P not just a British one I will put forward a case for Paul McCloskey, Oisin Fagan and Andy Lee

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 03 Mar 2008, 11:28

Horse wrote:
stujones wrote:Still no Derry Matthews?
He hasn't beaten anyone of note recently. A win in his scheduled fight with stephen Foster should be enough to see him enter.

He's already done that though (Handily)

Plus beaten Simpson and beaten the decent Matthew Marsh. Simspon lost to Foster.

ABA Boxing · Post by **ABA Boxing** » 03 Mar 2008, 12:07

Amateur Internationals P4P

Frankie Gavin (GBR) WC
Joseph Murray (GBR)
Bradley Saunders (GBR)
James Degale (GBR)
Kennet Egan (IRL)
Darren Sutherland (IRL)
Billy Joe Saunders (GBR)
Daniel Price (GBR)
David Price (GBR)
Stephen Smith (GBR)

Paddy Barnes (IRL)
Thomas Stalker (GBR)
John Joe Joyce (IRL)
Khalid Saeed Yafai (GBR)
Roy Sheehan (IRL)
Fundo Mhura (GBR)
Neil Perkins (GBR)
Tony Jeffries (GBR)
Cathal McMonagle (IRL)
John Joe Nevin (IRL)

Darren Langley (GBR)
Conor Ahern (IRL)
Darren O'Neil (IRL)
Callum Johnson (GBR)
Stephen Simmons (GBR)
Carl Frampton (IRL)
Ryan Lindberg (IRL)
Paul Butler (GBR)
David Oliver Joyce (IRL)
Michael Maguire (GBR)

Horse · Post by **Horse** » 03 Mar 2008, 12:30

Ash-Weston wrote:Yeah what about Derry Matthews? Good point!. Why is Scott Harrison at nine?

Scott Harrison is at No.9 as he was as high as No.4 when I first started doing the rankings, just under two years ago, and I was slow to react to his inactivity.

Horse · Post by **Horse** » 03 Mar 2008, 13:26

Dioufy wrote:God man, where is Kevin Mitchell?

Kevin Mitchell has not beaten the quality of opposition necessary for inclusion in the list. If he beats Johanneson then of course he will enter the list.

Horse · Post by **Horse** » 03 Mar 2008, 18:22

Ash-Weston wrote:Kevin Mitchell has been knocking out bums to get his record.Doesnt deserve a P4P ranking IMO

That is generally my feeling as well.

MBP wrote:So what he smashes CJ then you will rate him, the kid is class

We will see.

Horse · Post by **Horse** » 03 Mar 2008, 21:00

stujones wrote:Is Duddy closer to a world title shot. Khan is ranked in the top 15 with ALL of the governing bodies, and ranked 6 by fightviews and 6 on the Boxrec computer system (I don't agree with those lofty positions). He is also fighting Kristjansen in an eliminator.

There is surely a chance Khan will fight for a world title in the Summer... Duddy won't.

Duddy is ranked in the top 15 with all the governing bodies as well.

Perhaps Khan will fight for a title before Duddy, but I think that Duddy is more likely to fight for one first, as he was scheduled to fight Pavlik before he was cut. I don't think a late summer title fight is completely out of the question either.

lsg · Post by **lsg** » 04 Mar 2008, 04:28

Derry Mathews !!!!!!!

Undefeated, ranked in top 10 by two of the big 4 organisations. Beaten one man already on the list and took virtually every round from Foster.

Anti Mathews agenda based on one off night against Simpson is becoming nauseating