Guzman - "IM GOING TO TAKE ARTHURS HEAD OFF!"

Poncey · Post by **Poncey** » 04 Mar 2008, 14:05

Dirk Kelly wrote:I hope AAA amazes us all.

When was the last SN fighter to lose a World Title challenge on home soil? Thinking Nicky Cook but could be wrong.

To be fair, there's only been 3 defences since (unless you count WBU).

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 04 Mar 2008, 15:36

This is a mismatch from the scales. Are people aware what guzman weighs on fight night?

Heres a clue

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 05 Mar 2008, 08:07

So Alex is going to be getting in the ring against a light middleweight! Bloody hell, it's just bizzare - talk about a loaded deck.

I'll say this for AA, he gets his knocks over here, but he's still a world class operator when he's on form, and brave as hell. Just look at the way he kept getting off the floor against Gomez to take his lumps. Got a decent punch on him too, maybe enough to make Guzman think twice about walking right through him.

In terms of chances for our boy, it's similar to when the G Man came over to take the title off Benn - no one gave Benn a cat's chance in hell. AA will probably be thinking about that fight, as this one gets closer.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 05 Mar 2008, 08:25

MightyWarrior wrote:So Alex is going to be getting in the ring against a light middleweight! Bloody hell, it's just bizzare - talk about a loaded deck.

I'll say this for AA, he gets his knocks over here, but he's still a world class operator when he's on form, and brave as hell. Just look at the way he kept getting off the floor against Gomez to take his lumps. Got a decent punch on him too, maybe enough to make Guzman think twice about walking right through him.

In terms of chances for our boy, it's similar to when the G Man came over to take the title off Benn - no one gave Benn a cat's chance in hell. AA will probably be thinking about that fight, as this one gets closer.

Arthur is no Benn though, nowhere close!

I see him getting a right pasting and stopped in 5-6 rounds.

SticknMove · Post by **SticknMove** » 05 Mar 2008, 12:33

nickd wrote:
MightyWarrior wrote:So Alex is going to be getting in the ring against a light middleweight! Bloody hell, it's just bizzare - talk about a loaded deck.

I'll say this for AA, he gets his knocks over here, but he's still a world class operator when he's on form, and brave as hell. Just look at the way he kept getting off the floor against Gomez to take his lumps. Got a decent punch on him too, maybe enough to make Guzman think twice about walking right through him.

In terms of chances for our boy, it's similar to when the G Man came over to take the title off Benn - no one gave Benn a cat's chance in hell. AA will probably be thinking about that fight, as this one gets closer.
Arthur is no Benn though, nowhere close!

I see him getting a right pasting and stopped in 5-6 rounds.

Exactly.

AA has also been a terribly slow starter in the last few fights that I have seen him in. If he allows someone of Guzman's quality to dictate and control from the start then I can only see a sustained one sided beatdown ending at the half way stage.

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 05 Mar 2008, 12:47

Guzman KO3. Maybe even earlier. Arthur has not fought at this level. It'll look like Karmazin/Walker.

By the way, why can't I find any odds for this fight?

Flump · Post by **Flump** » 05 Mar 2008, 13:53

yiddo14 wrote:Guzman is one of the most talented guys in the sport.

Props to AA for taking the fight, it certainly isn't the normal kind of bout for a Sports Network fighter!

Can only see this ending one way...

I bet Frank's gutted that Guzman actually accepted the fight, i'm sure he didn't expect it. Not sure why AA is being congratulated for taking the fight, unless he's prepared to carry on walking around as the 'interim WBO champion' forever and fight british title level fights masquerading as world championship boxing.

But good luck to him though, I fear he'll need it.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 05 Mar 2008, 14:12

still, even though AAA will lose, Frank can say he promoted a fight involving the outstanding Guzman.

i wonder what Arthur will weigh on the night. Surely he puts loads of weight on as well post weigh in?

glahn · Post by **glahn** » 05 Mar 2008, 15:44

I'll be happy to eat my words if I'm wrong, but I still think that Guzman is massively overrated by just about everyone in this board.

Poncey · Post by **Poncey** » 06 Mar 2008, 07:08

Clearly Brock Lesnar isn't impressed with this fight:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 009AAlb4SF

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 06 Mar 2008, 07:21

glahn wrote:I'll be happy to eat my words if I'm wrong, but I still think that Guzman is massively overrated by just about everyone in this board.

I happen to agree.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 06 Mar 2008, 07:28

glahn wrote:I'll be happy to eat my words if I'm wrong, but I still think that Guzman is massively overrated by just about everyone in this board.

I did until he beat Soto, a very good fighter.

Poncey · Post by **Poncey** » 06 Mar 2008, 07:43

Autobarn wrote:
glahn wrote:I'll be happy to eat my words if I'm wrong, but I still think that Guzman is massively overrated by just about everyone in this board.
I did until he beat Soto, a very good fighter.

Actually until he beat Barrios and Soto I think that's correct. The manner in which he dominated Soto opened a lot of people's eyes to his talent.

Soto was actually the favourite at the time with the bookies.

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 06 Mar 2008, 07:48

arthur starts too slow to even put a seed of doubt into guzmans mind.
he wont be able to impose authority on him and will find himself chasing a lost cause as early as the 3rd. but he's got a lot of bottle alex arthur and is bang at his peak, a fine boxer in his own right and i reckon he'll claw some of the middle rounds back before soaking up too much and in my view RSF 10.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 06 Mar 2008, 08:19

Autobarn wrote:
glahn wrote:I'll be happy to eat my words if I'm wrong, but I still think that Guzman is massively overrated by just about everyone in this board.
I did until he beat Soto, a very good fighter.

He beat Soto whilst still appearing to box within himself, the sign of an exceptionally talented fighter.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 06 Mar 2008, 08:28

Is Guzman more than just fast reflexes?

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 06 Mar 2008, 08:32

Guzman's an awesome boxer, I think he's underrated if anything, but he doesn't go looking for the KO since his hand problems he's content to box and bombard his opponent from the outside, he reminds me alot of JC in style

THEBUTCH · Post by **THEBUTCH** » 07 Mar 2008, 14:58

MightyWarrior makes a very good point regarding Jorge Barrious. Barrios tasted Guzman's power and had to change tactics or get knocked out.