The fix is in!

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 02 Feb 2004, 20:24

Some of you may remember Tim Witherspoon's fight with Brian Nielsen a couple of years back in Denmark. Witherspoon was stopped in three rounds and never threw a single right hand in the fight (his best punch). Surprise surprise, I read a story on fightnews.com tonight in which a fighter admits accepting $10,000 and a top of the range car to throw a fight with Nielsen in 2000.

catweazle · Post by **catweazle** » 02 Feb 2004, 20:33

what a shocker !!!!!! Surely this cant be true ? Boxing corrupt,unheard of !

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 03 Feb 2004, 06:50

...Tim, say it aint true!...

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 03 Feb 2004, 07:18

i was always extremely suspicious of this result but this one is even more suspect:

Allan Vester W ko12 Emmanuel Burton.

Vester cannot crack an egg, Burton has a great chin. Pretty close fight. Dying minutes Burton goes down like someone had shot him with a Uzi.

check out this piece from cyber boxing

The Cyber Boxing Zone Newswire

Unknown Vester upsets Burton: Claus Jensen

(Aarhus, Denmark, June 25th)

In advance it seemed like totally unknown Allan Vester was way overmatched by IBF #4 ranked contender Emanuel Burton. As it turned out Burton decided to spend most of the fight making fun of Allan Vester and forgetting to actually hit him. That was Vester's chance. The dane showed brave and excellent counter attacking, but was still hit by some divebombs from Burton. However non of the fighters were ever seriously in trouble. I had Vester in front by only one point before the 12th and final round. Then something weird happened. With only a few seconds left Vester connected with a couple of soft punches and Burton fell to the canvas as if he had been shot dead. What is this ? Has he been paid to take a dive ? The crowd was stunned and in doubt. Was this the end ? Burton got up on the count of 10 and the referee waved the fight off, because the bell cannot save a fighter. Burton went to Vester's corner without looking hurt at all, and he raised Vester's arm to show the crowd who was the winner. Somehow this smells - but we are still awaiting comments from Emauel Burton himself. This was his first loss in

11 fights and he lost the IBF Intercontinental Juniorwelterweight belt he won by stopping british prospect Jonathan Thraxton in September 1998. This loss will probably also ruin his ranking as #4 by the IBF. However for Allan Vester it should fire him into the Top 10 and do everything for his career. He took his record to 11-0 (2 KO's), but he still needs a lot of hard work in the gym before he is ready for the big guys. IBF Champion in the Juniorwelterweight division is american Terron Millett and he is perhaps not the most feared champion. He was stopped in one round by Sharmba Mitchell back in 1996, but the way he stopped Vincent Phillips tells me that he will have no problem doing the same to Allan Vester.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 03 Feb 2004, 07:20

Not to nitpick, but Witherspoon fought Nielsen in 1999, not 2000, there are plenty of other people it could have been.

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 03 Feb 2004, 07:22

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Not to nitpick, but Witherspoon fought Nielsen in 1999, not 2000, there are plenty of other people it could have been.

jeremy williams????

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 03 Feb 2004, 07:24

Its about Thomas Williams, and I dont beleive it, Nielsen would have beat him anyway

knockout artist · Post by **knockout artist** » 03 Feb 2004, 07:40

bennie wrote:Some of you may remember Tim Witherspoon's fight with Brian Nielsen a couple of years back in Denmark. Witherspoon was stopped in three rounds and never threw a single right hand in the fight (his best punch). Surprise surprise, I read a story on fightnews.com tonight in which a fighter admits accepting $10,000 and a top of the range car to throw a fight with Nielsen in 2000.

Yeah, even a washed up Witherspoon should have Ko'd Nielsen.

What a shame such a gifted fighter as Tim has to resort to accepting bribes.

TerribleTerry · Post by **TerribleTerry** » 03 Feb 2004, 07:47

'Half Man Half Amazing' Jeremy Williams has frequently made comments insinuating that his fight with Neilsen was not all it seemed.

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 03 Feb 2004, 07:59

knockout artist wrote:
bennie wrote:Some of you may remember Tim Witherspoon's fight with Brian Nielsen a couple of years back in Denmark. Witherspoon was stopped in three rounds and never threw a single right hand in the fight (his best punch). Surprise surprise, I read a story on fightnews.com tonight in which a fighter admits accepting $10,000 and a top of the range car to throw a fight with Nielsen in 2000.
Yeah, even a washed up Witherspoon should have Ko'd Nielsen.

What a shame such a gifted fighter as Tim has to resort to accepting bribes.

The same Witherspoon that had lost his 3 previous fights and was Ko'ed in the next vs Greg Page and two fights later had a 12 round draw vs Mike Sedillo? The only thing Mogens Palle is guilty of is great matchmaking.

JimStone · Post by **JimStone** » 03 Feb 2004, 08:03

My opinion is that it's down to the Hells Angels. They have quite a powerful presence in Denmark and have a big influence on all things criminal over there.

Did you notice how they were looking after Mike Tyson when he was out there? I wonder if they knew what round he intended to start letting the heavy shots go?

As for the TKO12, what odds would they get on that?

1%

Lugh · Post by **Lugh** » 03 Feb 2004, 08:15

Neilsen's record alone could be taken as evidence of potential corruption!

Was it 50 odd wins undefeated before Tyson got him?

I can't believe that there are 50 heavyweights on the planet who are worse than Neilsen!!!

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 03 Feb 2004, 08:23

I don't think it is Tim Witherspoon who is insinuating he took a dive, it's probably Jeremy Williams.

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 03 Feb 2004, 08:23

I cant remember the excact fightrecord when he fourght Tyson but he was stopped by Dick Ryan in the 10th and final round due to dehydration. in his 50th fight

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 03 Feb 2004, 08:28

I can't really believe that Tim would take a dive... he seems too principled a guy for that ...remember how he stood up to Don King, why would he throw all that away just for a bit of money?

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 03 Feb 2004, 10:24

I would ask everyone to watch a tape of the Witherspoon-Nielsen fight, because it's very dodgy. If my memory serves me correctly, Nielsen was approaching Marciano's 49-fight unbeaten record, which was creating huge interest in Denmark.
It's always baffled me how Nielsen lost to a clubfighter, Dickie Ryan, when attempting to break Marciano's record. They picked the easiest guy they could find for him to set the record (he had equalled the record) - and he lost!
What does that say about his previous 49 wins!

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 03 Feb 2004, 10:32

In the fight vs Ryan Nielsen had a huge lead on the scorecards but he simply outpaced himself. His trainer Pepe Correra wouldnt let him drink any water between the rounds. If he hadnt dehydrated there is no way Ryan would have beat him.

Regarding the Witherspoon fight. As I recall it Witherspoon had some personal problems at that time (drugs?) thats why Nielsen could beat.

Finally Nielsen wasnt that bad a fighter as many of you think. He was overrated in Denmark but underrated in other countries.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 03 Feb 2004, 10:35

There's no doubt Nielsen could fight. I believe he won an Olympic silver medal.

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 03 Feb 2004, 10:36

bennie wrote:There's no doubt Nielsen could fight. I believe he won an Olympic silver medal.

bronze i think. he could fight, but all those easy fights he lost his hunger (not for food)

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 03 Feb 2004, 11:11

Correa eh, he used to train Lewis as well at one point, until he was fired for being shit.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 03 Feb 2004, 12:25

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Correa eh, he used to train Lewis as well at one point, until he was fired for being shit.

Yeah, he's the guy who told Lewis to go and knock out McCall in their first fight.

nasty · Post by **nasty** » 03 Feb 2004, 12:32

BULLSHIT, BULLSHIT, BULLSHIT!

Come on get fornicating real

Nielsen hardly had a glass jaw

This is a man who survived 6 rounds against MIKE TYSON!

really, I DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO FIX A FIGHT WITH A 40 YEAR OLD TIM WITHERSPOON!

GET REAL!

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JimStone · Post by **JimStone** » 03 Feb 2004, 12:35

nasty wrote:This is a man who survived 6 rounds against MIKE TYSON!

He did survive until round 6 against Tyson, but why? Because he could, or because Mike allowed him to? Fight betting?

nasty · Post by **nasty** » 03 Feb 2004, 12:43

No way!

Its not in TYSON'S BLOOD to carry an opponent!

Don't believe alot of the claims said here!

Go and look at Brian Nielsen's record which is good.

He don't need to fix a fight with Witherspoon, what rubbish!

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catweazle · Post by **catweazle** » 07 Feb 2004, 23:55

Nasty obviously knows whats in Tysons blood now ! Wonders never cease!

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