DG. wrote:Anyone else think HAYE was taking the piss with this 'I can not make the weight'?
Masterful!
I think he basically fooled FWANK!
2lbs under the weight? Haye just trained properly for this fight!
Haye looked in great condition - Enzo looked fleshy.
On fight night Haye will weigh 15st 10lbs approx, Good night, Enzo!
Gwannn, HAYE!
He had me fooled, that's why i thought he might be more cagey than normal & the fight might( ) go 12; but I might be inclined to think that Haye will smash him mid rounds.
If Haye finds Enzo with the jab in the 1st round - then its GOOD NIGHT!
Haye is certainly capable of making the weight if he puts his mind to it, Adam Booth said as much in the Times this morning. Owen Slot tracked down Mick Carney from the amateurs and Carney said Haye hates training and is a lazy sod. Basically the article came from the angle of Haye being overconfident in his ability and pointing out the fact he is in Miami and he tired against Mormeck etc
I don't care how fit they get in Calzaghe's shed, Haye will not have shirked on the training if he has any sense at all. He will be ripped into top condition, he knows he has to be. If he is banking on removing Enzo early as suggested in the press then he is making a big mistake. He will be fit, i would say.
charlieb wrote:The weight issue is definitely there, Booth's just playing games.
As for people kidding themselves, and that this is a 50-50 fight, just you wait.
Enzo is so full of false confidence right now that this fight could completely derail his career after he's knocked out.
Rumour has it that Carl Thompson has put big bet on Enzo. I would respectfully suggest that he should know
Thompson and Lee Sawby were on BBC 5 Live this morning and both backed Enzo to win. Swaby said something along the lines of Enzo having the better technical ability but Haye having a puncher's chance, which i think was a bit misleading.
Thompson always tries to get a bit philosophical about things but the bottom line is he thinks Enzo is fitter and more prepared. Swaby agrees.
charlieb wrote:The weight issue is definitely there, Booth's just playing games.
As for people kidding themselves, and that this is a 50-50 fight, just you wait.
Enzo is so full of false confidence right now that this fight could completely derail his career after he's knocked out.
Rumour has it that Carl Thompson has put big bet on Enzo. I would respectfully suggest that he should know
Thompson and Lee Sawby were on BBC 5 Live this morning and both backed Enzo to win. Swaby said something along the lines of Enzo having the better technical ability but Haye having a puncher's chance, which i think was a bit misleading.
Thompson always tries to get a bit philosophical about things but the bottom line is he thinks Enzo is fitter and more prepared. Swaby agrees.
I can see their point - but maybe a bit of envy has crept in?
Hobson stunned Enzo several times so I think a prepared HAye will walk Enzo down and beat him.
Enzo will be on his bike for 3-4 rounds if he is still in there!
Eraserhead wrote:Fwank Warren wants David Haye to enter the ring first tonight with Enzo coming in second, as the champion! What is the world coming to? Next we'll be having WBU champ Gary Lockett coming into the ring second following Kelly Pavlik.
Enzo Maccarinelli is the challenger tonight. Fact.
Blimey, who is promoting this fight? Fra nk Warren or Maria Carey. Talk about a Diva.
Enzo looks scared. He has the look of a man who knows he is in over his head. That usually results in reckless panic early.
Enzo will come out winging and get caught with a bomb. Good night nurse.
Just heading up to William Hill to place my bets. Haye in 1 2 or 3 and maybe a cover bet with Macca on points. If he can keep his head and not panic and trade early he has a chance if he sticks to boxing at long range.
charlieb wrote:The weight issue is definitely there, Booth's just playing games.
As for people kidding themselves, and that this is a 50-50 fight, just you wait.
Enzo is so full of false confidence right now that this fight could completely derail his career after he's knocked out.
Rumour has it that Carl Thompson has put big bet on Enzo. I would respectfully suggest that he should know
Thompson and Lee Sawby were on BBC 5 Live this morning and both backed Enzo to win. Swaby said something along the lines of Enzo having the better technical ability but Haye having a puncher's chance, which i think was a bit misleading.
Thompson always tries to get a bit philosophical about things but the bottom line is he thinks Enzo is fitter and more prepared. Swaby agrees.
I'm never sure how much you can read into other boxer's opinions - especially rivals. It's fair to say neither Swaby or Thompson are on great terms with Haye. Thompson has never appreciated the lack of credit he's received for beating Haye and Swaby won't like being dubbed a 'bum' by Haye in the lead up to this one.
Mark Hobson's backing Enzo too by the sounds of yesterday's weigh-in. He made a right mug of himself by turning up off his face on booze, along with a load of other bald, overweight Yorkshire tossers, a couple of whom got chucked out. The chants about Terry Marsh, directly in front of Wazza, probably did the trick.
The Blade wrote:
Rumour has it that Carl Thompson has put big bet on Enzo. I would respectfully suggest that he should know
Thompson and Lee Sawby were on BBC 5 Live this morning and both backed Enzo to win. Swaby said something along the lines of Enzo having the better technical ability but Haye having a puncher's chance, which i think was a bit misleading.
Thompson always tries to get a bit philosophical about things but the bottom line is he thinks Enzo is fitter and more prepared. Swaby agrees.
Mark Hobson's backing Enzo too by the sounds of yesterday's weigh-in. He made a right mug of himself by turning up off his face on booze, along with a load of other bald, overweight Yorkshire tossers, a couple of whom got chucked out. The chants about Terry Marsh, directly in front of Wazza, probably did the trick.
That is funny, doubt we will see Hobson in a sports networks ring again!
Walking along singing a song walking in a TERRY MARSH wonderland!
Eraserhead wrote:Fwank Warren wants David Haye to enter the ring first tonight with Enzo coming in second, as the champion! What is the world coming to? Next we'll be having WBU champ Gary Lockett coming into the ring second following Kelly Pavlik.
Enzo Maccarinelli is the challenger tonight. Fact.
I fully expected this. Haye is the champ right now. He should at least be given the respect of entering the ring 1st.
If Haye loses, you just know there will be a SN video that gets released with a pic of Haye on his back on the front cover. I always thought that was a bit of a slight against Lacy and Kessler after they CONCEDED HOME GROUND and accommodated Joe C's best wins.
Haye should at least be treated as champ while he still is.
I do have a feeling Enzo is up against it this time. This is no bloody late notice fringe contender/tough man!
Eraserhead wrote:Fwank Warren wants David Haye to enter the ring first tonight with Enzo coming in second, as the champion! What is the world coming to? Next we'll be having WBU champ Gary Lockett coming into the ring second following Kelly Pavlik.
Enzo Maccarinelli is the challenger tonight. Fact.
Blimey, who is promoting this fight? Fra nk Warren or Maria Carey. Talk about a Diva.
Enzo looks scared. He has the look of a man who knows he is in over his head. That usually results in reckless panic early.
Enzo will come out winging and get caught with a bomb. Good night nurse.
Just heading up to William Hill to place my bets. Haye in 1 2 or 3 and maybe a cover bet with Macca on points. If he can keep his head and not panic and trade early he has a chance if he sticks to boxing at long range.
Agree. Got 30 on rd 1, 30 on 2 and hedges on 3,4,5 and 6.
Getting nervous now. Really really hope it's not decided by some freak piece of luck like Haye slipping on some water and walking into a bomb, or some stupid ref decision.
I'm rooting for Haye big time - though it should hopefully be an exciting fight either way..! As close to a 50/50 as you may find, especially both with a big punch and a both without a cast iron chin!
You have to be dehydrated to have that kind of high muscle/no fat ratio we see on Haye, but some fighters can get strong for the night after their meals. Hopefully Haye does.
Autobarn wrote:Mac is the one with a "boxer's physique", IMO.
You have to be dehydrated to have that kind of high muscle/no fat ratio we see on Haye, but some fighters can get strong for the night after their meals. Hopefully Haye does.
Macc, imo, oes not have a boxers physique.
He looks like the average slim man on the street.
No definition at all, I even doubt he weight in at 14st - those jogging bottom may have had a few weights in them.
Haye will be fully hydrated tonight - but I think he should come in at around 15st 2 MAX.
) go 12; but I might be inclined to think that Haye will smash him mid rounds.
He sure looks well scared 