Classic American West Coast Boxing

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 08 Mar 2008, 16:10

Sadly, Expug, I don't know.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 08 Mar 2008, 16:19

kikibalt wrote:
Jesus Pimentel

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 08 Mar 2008, 16:22

Lausse wrote:No worrys Frank. Say, did you get the dvd`s yet? Let me know.

No, not yet, maybe today, I hope.

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 08 Mar 2008, 17:06

Who is going to be there?

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 08 Mar 2008, 18:19

Virgil Akins, Ricardo "Pajarito" Moreno & Jimmy McLarnin

dagosd2000 · Post by **dagosd2000** » 08 Mar 2008, 18:22

kikibalt wrote:DiegoDude,

Just got back from having manudo with pata

Hey young fella
Wife went to TJ. Made a bolony sandwich. LOL

dagosd2000 · Post by **dagosd2000** » 08 Mar 2008, 18:26

kikibalt wrote:

Lord Blears,What a showman!

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 08 Mar 2008, 18:28

Don Fraser & Jesus Pimentel

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 08 Mar 2008, 18:29

dagosd2000 wrote:
kikibalt wrote:DiegoDude,

Just got back from having manudo with pata
Hey young fella
Wife went to TJ. Made a bolony sandwich. LOL

Thats a gabacho for you!!

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 08 Mar 2008, 18:38

Lee Savold vs Arturo Godoy

This is for the pug & scarD.

dagosd2000 · Post by **dagosd2000** » 08 Mar 2008, 18:42

kikibalt wrote:
Lee Savold vs Arturo Godoy

This is for the pug & scarD.

My daughter just walked in the door from shopping with my granddaughter. In !5 minutes I'm going to eat chorizo con juevos y tortillas de harina. The women in my life wait on me hand and foot,and I don't understand it. But I have no complaints.

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 08 Mar 2008, 18:47

dagosd2000 wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
Lord Blears,What a showman!

For you Mr. D

Rick Farris · Post by **Rick Farris** » 08 Mar 2008, 18:53

bennie wrote:

Gaspar and Emile

Two great guys! Emile missed last year's WBHOF banquet, however, Gaspar Ortega was there, as always. Dan Hanley and I would like to interview Ortega and Griffith, this coming October.

Rick Farris · Post by **Rick Farris** » 08 Mar 2008, 18:59

kikibalt wrote:

Who is going to be there?

Frank, I plan to go, however, I will likely leave for North Carolina, on a feature film location, sometime around the second week in April, and won't return until the end of July. This also pretty much kills my attending this years Calif. HOF lunch in June. If I'm in town for either of the events, then I'll be there.

-Rick

Rick Farris · Post by **Rick Farris** » 08 Mar 2008, 19:06

kikibalt wrote:
Expug wrote:I think Gil had Emile from day one.
I dont think Gil ever had any fights.
Andi dont wanna speak bad about the guy but I was always a little bothered that Gil didnt pull Jerry Quarry out of the Norton fight a little sooner.
I thought Jerry took some unneccesary shots in that fight.
I know others wont see it that way, Thats fine.
I wonder if it would have mattered if Gil had some fights he might have been a little quicker with the hook.
Jerry was taking some real bombs in there and Kenny could bang.
Just an opinion.
I guess hindsight is 20 20.
Pugsy,

I agree you, I say better early then late.

Ditto! Referee Gwen Adair and I have talked along the same lines, she said that one of her mentors, Dick Young, told her exactly what Kiki wrote: "Better too early, than too late."

-Rick

scartissue · Post by **scartissue** » 08 Mar 2008, 19:24

kikibalt wrote:
Lee Savold vs Arturo Godoy

This is for the pug & scarD.

Damn, my Dad always talked about the old stadium as a fight venue. Looks kinda cool from the program. He saw Basilio robbed against Saxton in the stadium. Chicago was pretty shady back then with Jim Norris' IBC running riot. Some of the shenanigans that were pulled chased dog racing out of llinois as well. Pops tells me they were finding greyhounds with stones wedged between their toes and wads of cotton wool shoved up the nostrils. My god, back in the day...

Scartissue

scartissue · Post by **scartissue** » 08 Mar 2008, 19:27

Frank, got any photos of the Reynosa rattlesnake, Battling Torres?

Scartissue

dagosd2000 · Post by **dagosd2000** » 08 Mar 2008, 19:28

I went to school with Lee Ramage's nephew. Lee was born in San Diego,in the Marines in WW II,boxed professionally,and was a real no nonsense guy. His nephew and me would go over to Uncle Lee's house and once in a while I'd ask him to talk about boxing. Ramage looked like a fighter. Rough looking and very handsome,and a personality that sent a message saying don't act like a "sissy"around me if you want to communicate. He sort of looked like the pictures I'd seen of Billy Conn. If you're Irish and good looking, like Conn and Ramage were,don't ever call them a"pretty boy" or they'll quickly put you in the record books as another KO.

"Pop" Foster handled Ramage. Foster trained Jimmy McLarnin, and Ramage said Foster treated McLarnin like a son. His nephew was Ramage's sister's kid and though he wasn't a "sissy",the kid was a little timid and fragile. He was the most uncoordinated guy I'd ever seen. He was very well manered. His mother who was very diminutive lost her husband in the war,and Uncle Lee was like a surrogate father for his sister's kid. Ramage sent his nephew to Brown Military School in Pacific Beach, and when he was away from the school he still kept saying" 'No sir' and "Yes sir' ". Ramage never seemed to be bothered by the fact that his nephew was not an athlete. I think Ramage didn't want the kid to try to aspire to something that was impossble,so he never said nothing.

I asked Ramage about Joe Louis. Ramage laughed.
"I fought him twice. The first time I was boxing him pretty good,until he caught up with me."
I told him my father saw the fight in Chicago and that my father was a Marine like him. Ramage laughed again.
"Son,you tell your dad that the second fight I had with Louis in Los Angeles,Louis didn't have to catch up with me. My chin was already there waiting for him."

dagosd2000 · Post by **dagosd2000** » 08 Mar 2008, 19:37

scartissue wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
Lee Savold vs Arturo Godoy

This is for the pug & scarD.
Damn, my Dad always talked about the old stadium as a fight venue. Looks kinda cool from the program. He saw Basilio robbed against Saxton in the stadium. Chicago was pretty shady back then with Jim Norris' IBC running riot. Some of the shenanigans that were pulled chased dog racing out of llinois as well. Pops tells me they were finding greyhounds with stones wedged between their toes and wads of cotton wool shoved up the nostrils. My god, back in the day...

Scartissue

Hey Scar
As you probably know,my dad was in the"Outfit" back there.Worked under Giancana and Accardo. My father told me years later that Carmen wasn't suppose to win that fight with Saxton. The ref wouldn't let Carmen work inside. Basilio's men DeJohn and Nitro were in on it,but Carmen was in the dark. Nitro kept telling Carmen to box on the outside. My father was like Basilio,a Marine in WW II. My father felt bad for Carmen,but didn't have enough clout to do anything. Besides Nitro and DeJohn owed money to the Mob. Carmen never trusted fighting in Chicago.

dagosd2000 · Post by **dagosd2000** » 08 Mar 2008, 19:42

kikibalt wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
Lord Blears,What a showman!

For you Mr. D

You know Frank,Blears's son was a world champion surfer. I don't think he learned that from his dad.

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 08 Mar 2008, 20:37

scartissue wrote:Frank, got any photos of the Reynosa rattlesnake, Battling Torres?

Scartissue

Just when Ortiz knocked him out I think., but I'll look.

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 08 Mar 2008, 20:57

Battling Torres & Carlos Ortiz...1960

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 08 Mar 2008, 21:33

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuINSCELRNM
Real Boxers Mexicanos..since 1900-2008

Here's a Video of Just Some of the Mexican Legends : Chango Casanova, Joe Conde, Luis Villa Nueva. Recardo "Finito" Lopez, Ruben Olivarez, Julio Cesar Chavez, Raul "Raton" Macias too much more to name....

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 09 Mar 2008, 00:37

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 09 Mar 2008, 04:41

Boza and Bobby