HEAVYWEIGHTS WANTED

[Wales]

Absolute bollocks, I have promoted professionaly and i can tell you that some of our fighters would beat some pro's.
Sven hamer is the British Champion at the moment and i would state that he would walk into the British top ten heavy ratings, for one thing he would beat any of the fighters that are on matchrooms prizefighter contest.
In fact we have a had top class amateurs on our shows, some even national champions.

In that case your contradicting yourself. You say your looking for conference footballers, but your team has premiership players.

Dont keep trying to drag me into silly cyber arguments, the above assumption is yours not mine.
I came on this site to see if there were any fighters who wanted to earn some money.
I answered a few questions and now your saying I am contradicting myself (take a mellow pill will ya) This is not a court!.
I am just asking if there are any fighters out there.

Im not trying to drag you into any cyber argument. I just dont like the idea of putting untrained "locals" in the ring with people who you describe as top ten UK Heavies. Its dangerous and the baying for blood will soon stop form your 2000 following should ythere be an injury.

Good luck, but not for me.

[Ulysses]

I assume that you are the same promotion that did this-

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Bkhjv0cekYE

Its a boxer v a guy from the crowd, in the style of an American "toughman" fight.

What a load of shit ... who pays to watch this garbage!

[whicker]

, guys who want to give it a go ..... but dont want to go down the road in having brain scans.... and all the other tests that are needed to turn professional.
On these shows you see many ex-pro's and alot of amateur's who are training and struggling to get matches.

Boxing for people who may not meet the health requirements to box professionally?

What difference does that make! just because i guy doesnt want to be a professional does that mean he should not be allowed to box in front of his mates

The difference is very simple- the health check exist to protect the boxer. Any boxer (or indeed guys out the crowd) choosing to ignore them could be putting himself in serious danger.

[Wales]

Boxing for people who may not meet the health requirements to box professionally?

What difference does that make! just because i guy doesnt want to be a professional does that mean he should not be allowed to box in front of his mates

The difference is very simple- the health check exist to protect the boxer. Any boxer (or indeed guys out the crowd) choosing to ignore them could be putting himself in serious danger.

I think the important point is they could be putting themselves in danger without even knowing it.

[sweetscience]

i went to my first (and last) unlicenced bill the other week

it was good - in a comedy kind of way

first up were two fat kids both looked like chunk out of the goonies - it was like a playground scrap - very entertaining but not in the boxing way

2nd up was my mate who was a good feather weight am about 4 years ago. he did one days trianing and then boxed this chump and stopped him in the 2nd round at about super middleweight. i presumed they had picked his oppent out of the crowd but he had had 30 odd unlicenced fights - embarrassing

there was a good scrap up next between my mate who boxed as a junior am a few years ago against an experience unlicenced boxer (who has sinced turned pro) - very good fight in fariness althou my mate didnt take it serious and had a can of lager on the way

a few more bum v bum fights proceeded

i then left

i missed the last fight - but was told the two heavies boxed the first round, then had a real fight with headbuts and knees - the fight was stopped as expected - then resumed to find the winner

funny as fook but NOT BOXING !

[Mimmy]

I wouldn't pay to watch an unlicenced boxing show, i guess you get lots of dead heads in the crowd fuelled by drink and looking for fights themselves. Maybe im wrong but its not for me. These will carry on until there is a death or a riot. Im sure they are entertaining for a certain class of spectator and not to expensive to watch.

if i want to watch a unlicenced fight i can see them free on a Saturday night in the town centre.

[MeanMachine.biz]

I wouldn't pay to watch an unlicenced boxing show, i guess you get lots of dead heads in the crowd fuelled by drink and looking for fights themselves. Maybe im wrong but its not for me. These will carry on until there is a death or a riot. Im sure they are entertaining for a certain class of spectator and not to expensive to watch.

if i want to watch a unlicenced fight i can see them free on a Saturday night in the town centre.

Mimmy what do you mean deadheads in the crowd? or a certain class? are you saying the crowd at professional shows are full of Oxford and cambridge boys or could it be the sober and respectful mob who respected the american national anthem at Hatton Mayweather.

[MeanMachine.biz]

What difference does that make! just because i guy doesnt want to be a professional does that mean he should not be allowed to box in front of his mates

The difference is very simple- the health check exist to protect the boxer. Any boxer (or indeed guys out the crowd) choosing to ignore them could be putting himself in serious danger.

I think the important point is they could be putting themselves in danger without even knowing it.

I disagree with the danger, any sport or pastime could be said to be dangerous, having a bbq in your back garden could be called dangerous,
Most deaths in boxing are at the lower weights where fighters are drying out to make weight.

[MeanMachine.biz]

i went to my first (and last) unlicenced bill the other week

it was good - in a comedy kind of way

first up were two fat kids both looked like chunk out of the goonies - it was like a playground scrap - very entertaining but not in the boxing way

2nd up was my mate who was a good feather weight am about 4 years ago. he did one days trianing and then boxed this chump and stopped him in the 2nd round at about super middleweight. i presumed they had picked his oppent out of the crowd but he had had 30 odd unlicenced fights - embarrassing

there was a good scrap up next between my mate who boxed as a junior am a few years ago against an experience unlicenced boxer (who has sinced turned pro) - very good fight in fariness althou my mate didnt take it serious and had a can of lager on the way

a few more bum v bum fights proceeded

i then left

i missed the last fight - but was told the two heavies boxed the first round, then had a real fight with headbuts and knees - the fight was stopped as expected - then resumed to find the winner

funny as fook but NOT BOXING !

sweetscience what show was this?
I disagree with your opinion that its not boxing, anything where two guys have gloves on is a form of boxing, what do you call two kids training at there home with gloves on, its boxing training.
On our last show we had two ex-pro's, a former national champion and an ex world kick boxing champion.
For me I hate amateur shows! I boxed over seventy times as an amateur but to see two twelve year olds fighting bores me to tears but Thats my opinion.
Why are you so hostile against this kind of boxing, have you tried it and been embarressed in the ring therefore have some deep rooted resentment.
In a perfect world every boxing show would be a Ward v Gatti but that doesnt happen, there have been plenty of Pro shows where I have walked out but i dont preach that its shit and crap and all the other bollocks, Thats boxing you get good and bad, our fights have the same No better medical procedures in place as amateur as amateurs do not insist on paramedics at ringside, we do.
If two guys want to have a go, 3x2 minute rounds which is hardly going to kill them then why do some people want to stop them or slag them off.
Would you call women boxing good, we wont have women boxing on our shows, I wont comment if its right or wrong because I respect the like of Jane Couch but our preference is we wont have it.

[Phenomenal-Nutrition]

The difference is very simple- the health check exist to protect the boxer. Any boxer (or indeed guys out the crowd) choosing to ignore them could be putting himself in serious danger.

I think the important point is they could be putting themselves in danger without even knowing it.

I disagree with the danger, any sport or pastime could be said to be dangerous, having a bbq in your back garden could be called dangerous,
Most deaths in boxing are at the lower weights where fighters are drying out to make weight.

They will be putting themselves in danger but if a wannabe hardman is looking for a fight better organised like this than kicking the bells out of some helpless student who bumped into him in a bar. Fighting is dangerous

Are you the promoter Meanmachine? What sort of numbers do these events make out of interest?

[MeanMachine.biz]

Hattie Jacques might be a good bet. I think she is dead so she will have just the right reflexive ability required for these fights.

Good Quote!
we dont have women though, maybe she could join the Harrison, williams, Skelton And Sprott bonanza's ITV kept giving us.

[Wales]

The difference is very simple- the health check exist to protect the boxer. Any boxer (or indeed guys out the crowd) choosing to ignore them could be putting himself in serious danger.

I think the important point is they could be putting themselves in danger without even knowing it.

I disagree with the danger, any sport or pastime could be said to be dangerous, having a bbq in your back garden could be called dangerous,
Most deaths in boxing are at the lower weights where fighters are drying out to make weight.

Yes thats true, but mostly since they brought in brain scans, stringent health checks for all. Johnny Owen for one had a weakness in his skull that modern testing would have picked up on (I believe), sadly, his wasnt.
I dont have a rpoblem with unlicenced shows, everything has its place, I just think there is a degree of danger involved when pre fight medicals go out the window and gulf in class are immense. Especially if as someone mention stamping etc... is seen as an occupational hazard.

[ABA Boxing]

White collar boxing comes to mind but they have bout limits, some wont let you enter if you have had 6 or more, now while some top super Heavyweight Amateurs could stand there own in a 3 to 5 round fight against pro heavyweights.

The likes of Potter and co, are seasoned pro boxers and it seems very unfair against joe bloggs who had his last fight age 10 in the school playground. There needs to be some kind of limits, on experience.

Are we saying that Lennox Lewis could sign up for this and fight some 50 year old, who makes the weight but has never put on boxing gloves?

[sweetscience]

i went to my first (and last) unlicenced bill the other week

it was good - in a comedy kind of way

first up were two fat kids both looked like chunk out of the goonies - it was like a playground scrap - very entertaining but not in the boxing way

2nd up was my mate who was a good feather weight am about 4 years ago. he did one days trianing and then boxed this chump and stopped him in the 2nd round at about super middleweight. i presumed they had picked his oppent out of the crowd but he had had 30 odd unlicenced fights - embarrassing

there was a good scrap up next between my mate who boxed as a junior am a few years ago against an experience unlicenced boxer (who has sinced turned pro) - very good fight in fariness althou my mate didnt take it serious and had a can of lager on the way

a few more bum v bum fights proceeded

i then left

i missed the last fight - but was told the two heavies boxed the first round, then had a real fight with headbuts and knees - the fight was stopped as expected - then resumed to find the winner

funny as fook but NOT BOXING !

sweetscience what show was this?
I disagree with your opinion that its not boxing, anything where two guys have gloves on is a form of boxing, what do you call two kids training at there home with gloves on, its boxing training.
On our last show we had two ex-pro's, a former national champion and an ex world kick boxing champion.
For me I hate amateur shows! I boxed over seventy times as an amateur but to see two twelve year olds fighting bores me to tears but Thats my opinion.
Why are you so hostile against this kind of boxing, have you tried it and been embarressed in the ring therefore have some deep rooted resentment.
In a perfect world every boxing show would be a Ward v Gatti but that doesnt happen, there have been plenty of Pro shows where I have walked out but i dont preach that its shit and crap and all the other bollocks, Thats boxing you get good and bad, our fights have the same No better medical procedures in place as amateur as amateurs do not insist on paramedics at ringside, we do.
If two guys want to have a go, 3x2 minute rounds which is hardly going to kill them then why do some people want to stop them or slag them off.
Would you call women boxing good, we wont have women boxing on our shows, I wont comment if its right or wrong because I respect the like of Jane Couch but our preference is we wont have it.

i have nothing against unlicenced boxing

but i feel its place in terms of ability is generally below amatuer boxing and not above it

the standard in general is shite

1. Pro's
2. Am's
3. Unlicensed

as long as you know your place that fine

[MeanMachine.biz]

White collar boxing comes to mind but they have bout limits, some wont let you enter if you have had 6 or more, now while some top super Heavyweight Amateurs could stand there own in a 3 to 5 round fight against pro heavyweights.

The likes of Potter and co, are seasoned pro boxers and it seems very unfair against joe bloggs who had his last fight age 10 in the school playground. There needs to be some kind of limits, on experience.

Are we saying that Lennox Lewis could sign up for this and fight some 50 year old, who makes the weight but has never put on boxing gloves?

In theory Lennox Could box at our shows but we would never get him matched, with the ex-pro's we always try to match them against someone similar but as with pro boxing mismatches do occur.
But what makes our form of boxing different is we do allow challenges, if someone asks to fight a champion then we find out if he's suitable and then maybe make the match on a future show.

[MeanMachine.biz]

i went to my first (and last) unlicenced bill the other week

it was good - in a comedy kind of way

first up were two fat kids both looked like chunk out of the goonies - it was like a playground scrap - very entertaining but not in the boxing way

2nd up was my mate who was a good feather weight am about 4 years ago. he did one days trianing and then boxed this chump and stopped him in the 2nd round at about super middleweight. i presumed they had picked his oppent out of the crowd but he had had 30 odd unlicenced fights - embarrassing

there was a good scrap up next between my mate who boxed as a junior am a few years ago against an experience unlicenced boxer (who has sinced turned pro) - very good fight in fariness althou my mate didnt take it serious and had a can of lager on the way

a few more bum v bum fights proceeded

i then left

i missed the last fight - but was told the two heavies boxed the first round, then had a real fight with headbuts and knees - the fight was stopped as expected - then resumed to find the winner

funny as fook but NOT BOXING !

sweetscience what show was this?
I disagree with your opinion that its not boxing, anything where two guys have gloves on is a form of boxing, what do you call two kids training at there home with gloves on, its boxing training.
On our last show we had two ex-pro's, a former national champion and an ex world kick boxing champion.
For me I hate amateur shows! I boxed over seventy times as an amateur but to see two twelve year olds fighting bores me to tears but Thats my opinion.
Why are you so hostile against this kind of boxing, have you tried it and been embarressed in the ring therefore have some deep rooted resentment.
In a perfect world every boxing show would be a Ward v Gatti but that doesnt happen, there have been plenty of Pro shows where I have walked out but i dont preach that its shit and crap and all the other bollocks, Thats boxing you get good and bad, our fights have the same No better medical procedures in place as amateur as amateurs do not insist on paramedics at ringside, we do.
If two guys want to have a go, 3x2 minute rounds which is hardly going to kill them then why do some people want to stop them or slag them off.
Would you call women boxing good, we wont have women boxing on our shows, I wont comment if its right or wrong because I respect the like of Jane Couch but our preference is we wont have it.

i have nothing against unlicenced boxing

but i feel its place in terms of ability is generally below amatuer boxing and not above it

the standard in general is shite

1. Pro's
2. Am's
3. Unlicensed

as long as you know your place that fine

Firstly we never said that our boxing is better than 'AMATEUR', we said we are semi - pro, which is not amateur or professional but falls in the middle, you made the comparison, not us.
Its a ridiculous comment for us to say this, how can we be better than an Olympic champion but some of our fighters are better than a fight novice so its ridiculous argument, it can go back and forth all day.
You also keep calling it unlicensed (please tell me what this means) , I know what it means and I know we are not unlicensed, yes were not licensed to formula one or the ABA or BBBofC or the bloody DVLA but that doesnt make us 'Unlicensed'

[sweetscience]

we are a middle ground between amateur and professional.

the quote implies that your better than AM's but not as good as pro's

and i disagree