Classic American West Coast Boxing

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 18 Mar 2008, 07:56

Randy Shields, Rocky Baltazar & Frankie Baltazar
8-19-06

Rocky is Frankie's son, thus my grandson.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 18 Mar 2008, 08:37

kikibalt wrote:
Randy Shields, Rocky Baltazar & Frankie Baltazar
8-19-06

Rocky is Frankie's son, thus my grandson.

Nice. It's so good to see former fighters in today's context.

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 18 Mar 2008, 08:46

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 18 Mar 2008, 08:54

Bob Dunlap

scartissue · Post by **scartissue** » 18 Mar 2008, 09:20

kikibalt wrote:
bennie wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
Sugar Ray Robinson
Great shot. Is that Art Hafey?
I want to say that it is Art Hafey, just not sure.

I want to say Art Hafey as well. There is a possibility it could be Evan Armstrong who fought out west a couple of times, but I would lean towards Hafey. BTW, amazing forearms on this kid who is obviously in the lower weights.

Scartissue

scartissue · Post by **scartissue** » 18 Mar 2008, 09:32

bennie wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
Roberto Duran vs Javier Ayala
Duran doing his thing before anyone suspected how great he really was. Duran vs Cuevas drew probably the last huge genuine fight crowd in LA.

This was the 10th round knockdown that messed up the 10 second lights on the ring posts. Ayala hit the deck so hard they activated with only around a minute and a half gone in the round. The bell rang ending a short 10th and by the time they realized what had happened the fighters gloves were removed. They had to put them back on and finish the remainder of the round. On a delayed basis, I got to see all the fights on this card, which were being shown on 'Boxing from the Olympic'. We also had 'Boxing from the Forum'. Man, I couldn't get enough of west coast boxing back then. Incidentally, the entire card I saw was Duran-Ayala of course, Danny Lopez-Ace Endo, Chango Carmona-Jimmy Heair and the lightweight championship fight between Rodolfo Gonzalez and Ruben Navarro all from the L.A. Sports Arena. What a card!

Scartissue

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 18 Mar 2008, 10:35

Just got done watching Enrique Bolanos/Ike Williams II, courtesy of a friend here on BOXREC. I had forgotten how good this two guys were, I don't think there is a LW. from the last 25 years that could beat Williams and Bolanos.

These two guys were brilliant boxers/punchers.

dagosd2000 · Post by **dagosd2000** » 18 Mar 2008, 11:19

kikibalt wrote:
bennie wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
Sugar Ray Robinson
Great shot. Is that Art Hafey?
I want to say that it is Art Hafey, just not sure.

Guys

Saw Art Hafey almost everyday training at the Coliseum. It's Art Hafey with Sugar Ray.

dagosd2000 · Post by **dagosd2000** » 18 Mar 2008, 11:27

Frank,Rick,Scar
I remember a fighter at the Olympic who looked like his nickname,Roy"The Boy"Hollis. Do you guys have any stories about him?

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 18 Mar 2008, 11:34

dagosd2000 wrote:Frank,Rick,Scar
I remember a fighter at the Olympic who looked like his nickname,Roy"The Boy"Hollis. Do you guys have any stories about him?

D

Roy was on my 1973 Nat. G.G. team, and in fact was the only one to win the Nat. title that year from the L.A. team.

Back row third from left, is Roy "The Boy" Hollis.

granberry · Post by **granberry** » 18 Mar 2008, 12:50

The lower legs are Art Hafey. No one else.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 18 Mar 2008, 15:32

scartissue wrote:
bennie wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
Roberto Duran vs Javier Ayala
Duran doing his thing before anyone suspected how great he really was. Duran vs Cuevas drew probably the last huge genuine fight crowd in LA.
This was the 10th round knockdown that messed up the 10 second lights on the ring posts. Ayala hit the deck so hard they activated with only around a minute and a half gone in the round. The bell rang ending a short 10th and by the time they realized what had happened the fighters gloves were removed. They had to put them back on and finish the remainder of the round. On a delayed basis, I got to see all the fights on this card, which were being shown on 'Boxing from the Olympic'. We also had 'Boxing from the Forum'. Man, I couldn't get enough of west coast boxing back then. Incidentally, the entire card I saw was Duran-Ayala of course, Danny Lopez-Ace Endo, Chango Carmona-Jimmy Heair and the lightweight championship fight between Rodolfo Gonzalez and Ruben Navarro all from the L.A. Sports Arena. What a card!

Scartissue

Is this the fight Duran was training for when he beat up everyone in the gym, including Ruben Navarro and full welterweights (Duran also floored Rick Farris, although Rick clambered up and went the full agreed three rounds)?
Rick wrote about it in his memorable 'Duran and the Horseshoe'.

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 18 Mar 2008, 18:38

Henry Tillman

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 18 Mar 2008, 18:43

Lauro Salas

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 18 Mar 2008, 18:53

Rodolfo "Gato" Gonzalez

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 18 Mar 2008, 19:04

dagosd2000 · Post by **dagosd2000** » 18 Mar 2008, 19:22

"I never knew that."
"Yeah,Pancho Villa wanted to promote the Johnson/Willard fight",I said.
Me and Mario had finished up in the gym and now we were watching a couple of Navy lightweights begin their sparring session.
"Villa would have pulled it off,but Carranza stood in his way."
"Who's Carranza?",asked Mario.
Mario wanted to shed some weight. After sparring he started peeling off his rubber suit top.
"The president of Mexico."
"Did Villa want to have the fight in the U.S.?"
"Johnson was wanted on a warrant here. Villa wanted to stage it in Juarez in his home state."
"Wasn't Villa from Jalisco?" asked Mario.
Mario had peeled off the top of the suit. His chest was flabby. He had some work ahead of him.
"No,from Chihuahua."
"I think my family is from there."
"Villa was born in Durango,but considered himself from Chihuahua."

The Navy lightweights weren't working very hard. Their trainer was yelling at them to step it up.
"Well at least Villa won the revolution",said Mario.
Mario put a towel over his head. He was sweating pretty freely.
"In the end he didn't. Obregon wound up on top."
"Isn't Obregon a town?"asked Mario.
"A city in Sonora. That's where Obregon was from."
Mario was drinking a bottled water. Half done,he poured the rest of the water on his head.
"How'd Obregon win in the end?"
"He was the most treacherous. And he studied warfare from the Germans."
"I didn't know the Germans were in the Mexican Revolution."
"They weren't. Obregon just used their methods."

The two Navy boys ended their workout. Their trainer threw them a couple of towels and told them to take a shower. As the Navy boys headed for the showers,their trainer was looking at both of them with his hands on his hips.
"Didn't Obregon die just recently?"
Mario had cooled down. He looked tired.
"Obregon was assassinated shortly after the Revolution. His betrayls finally caught up to him."
"But Villa was that way too. Couldn't be trusted."
"Villa was always loyal to Madero and Gonzalez even after their assassinations."
"But I thought Villa was assassinated?"
"He was."
Mario said he was getting hungry. He had a taste for a pizza.
"Pretty confusing for me. Well at least you can say Pancho Villa was a good President of Mexico."
"He was never President."
"I thought he was."
"Villa thought he didn't have enough education to be President of Mexico."
"Having an education is important all right."
"Pancho Villa would have been a great President. He had the opportunity,but lacked the confidence to take over."
Mario put on a sweatshirt.
"Well Bush went to Harvard and look what a mess we're in,"laughed Mario.
"Bush went to Yale",I said.
Mario grabbed his bag and shook his head at me.
"I don't know about you,but let's get out of here and get a pizza."

dagosd2000 · Post by **dagosd2000** » 18 Mar 2008, 19:28

kikibalt wrote:

I wonder if "mis cunados "ever saw him fight in Jiquilpan? Los caminos de Michoacan.

dagosd2000 · Post by **dagosd2000** » 18 Mar 2008, 19:29

kikibalt wrote:
Rodolfo "Gato" Gonzalez

Soy Puro Mexicano.

dagosd2000 · Post by **dagosd2000** » 18 Mar 2008, 19:30

kikibalt wrote:
Lauro Salas

Frank,did this guy ever smile?

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 18 Mar 2008, 19:48

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 18 Mar 2008, 19:50

dagosd2000 wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
Lauro Salas
Frank,did this guy ever smile?

Yeah, I have pic of him and his dad and Salas is smiling, I'll see if I can fine it and post it.

Lausse · Post by **Lausse** » 18 Mar 2008, 19:55

scartissue wrote:
On a delayed basis, I got to see all the fights on this card, which were being shown on 'Boxing from the Olympic'. We also had 'Boxing from the Forum'. Man, I couldn't get enough of west coast boxing back then. Incidentally, the entire card I saw was Duran-Ayala of course, Danny Lopez-Ace Endo, Chango Carmona-Jimmy Heair and the lightweight championship fight between Rodolfo Gonzalez and Ruben Navarro all from the L.A. Sports Arena. What a card!

Scartissue

Scar,

Do you know whatever happened to all those "Boxing from the Olympic" shows? What I mean by that is wether those broadcasts have been saved and are in storage somewhere to this day, because if so that is a veritable gold mine of footage for any film collector like myself. I have quite a few of those "Boxing from the Olympic" shows myself, but the one you mention I do not save for the Lopez/Endo fight. Anything you can tell me would be most appreciated.

And on a seperate note whatever happened to Gato Gonzalez posting here with us? It`s been several weeks since I last read of his difficulty creating an account here for whatever reason, surely the moderators could do something about that can they not? I hope something can be done to have him join us here, as I`d sure like to talk with him and I`m sure others here feel the same way. Let`s get Gato Gonzalez here with us as soon as possible!

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 18 Mar 2008, 19:57

Carl Bobo Olson, Jimmy Carter, Jimmy Lennon, Lauro Salas & friends

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 18 Mar 2008, 20:05

Lauro Salas, don't know the name of the guy with him.