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dagosd2000 wrote:
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dagosd2000 wrote: We need to take a trip to TJ. Without the wives.
I would have to ask my wife first. LOL!!
Frank,
Do what I always do, LIE
Examples: Honey,me and Dagos are going to get some tacos in TJ
Honey,me and Dagos are going to go to the dog races.
Honey,me and Dagos are going to get a haircut for a
dollar.
Honey,me and Dagos are going to visit an old sick
compadre.
Capice?

My father once told me if your wife catches you in bed with another woman,you leap out of bed and raise yor voice.
"Honey,I don't know how this woman got in here. She must have climbed through the window and got in bed with me while I was sleeping."
Why tell them the truth? Lie. Never admit to anything. Our wives don't want to hear the truth anyway. If you tell them the truth you have to be nice to them all the time. DAGOS
Dude,

Not with my track record I can't, its so bad that even if I tell her the truth she still don't believe me. and since she supports me I have to be on my best behavior or I'll be out on the street and living under a bridge, not me!!, LOL!!
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Art Aragon, colorful L.A. boxer, dies at 80

In the '40s and '50s, Aragon was known as the 'Golden Boy.' He entered the ring wearing gold robes and trunks, flattened opponents with his sharp left hook -- and then dated starlets.
By Lance Pugmire, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
March 26, 2008

Art Aragon, the charismatic "Golden Boy" boxer who steadily drew standing-room-only crowds at Los Angeles and Hollywood venues in the 1940s and '50s, died today at Northridge Hospital Medical Center after his family removed him from life support apparatus. He was 80.

He had suffered a stroke on March 15, his son Brad said.

Aragon never won a world title, but he was inducted into the World Boxing Hall of Fame in 1990 with a 90-20-6 record that included several major bouts at the Olympic Auditorium, the old Wrigley Field and Hollywood's Legion Stadium.

Longtime boxing publicist Bill Caplan said Aragon, who memorably made a habit entered the ring wearing a gold robe and gold trunks, will be remembered as "the top drawing card in L.A. boxing history.

"He was so colorful, and his fights were so exciting. He was a kill-or-be-killed kind of guy."

His life outside the ring was also unforgettable.

A native of Belen, N.M., who grew up in East Los Angeles, Aragon was married four times and engaged for a fifth wedding. He was also romantically linked to actress Mamie Van Doren, and had friendships with starlets Marilyn Monroe, Jayne Mansfield, Sophia Loren and the ex-wife of Dean Martin, Betty Martin, among several others, friends and associates said.

Van Doren, reached at her Newport Beach home, said she first met Aragon when she was 18 and held the title of Miss Palm Springs. She'd watch him fight from ringside, have dinner with him afterward, and said she quickly fell in love.

"The 'Golden Boy' was a perfect title for him," Van Doren said. "His smile turned everyone on. His skin was golden. His floppy hair bounced so perfectly. He was just so sexy."

Aragon's outstanding left hook made him a top-ranked lightweight. He started boxing in 1944 and his popularity skyrocketed in 1950 after he twice scored technical knockout victories over Angeleno favorite Enrique Bolanos of Mexico at the Olympic.

"The crowd loved Bolanos and booed Artie when it was over, but he thumbed his nose at them," Caplan said. "It then became a tradition to boo Aragon."

Reflecting on his career years ago in The Times, Aragon said he craved the treatment.

"Walking into the ring at the Olympic, 10,000 people there, wearing that gold robe, hearing all those boos, yeah I miss that," he told writer Earl Gustkey. "You ever get booed by 10,000 people? It's exciting. I liked it even better when I beat . . . some guy the crowd loved and then I'd look out at 'em, give 'em a big smile, and the boos would be even louder. I loved that."

His problems making the lightweight limit of 135 pounds became legendary, too, as he once cracked he was the only fighter that had to be carried into the ring.

In 1951, after he defeated Jimmy Carter in a non-title meeting earlier in the year, then-lightweight champion Carter knocked Aragon down in the sixth and 15th rounds to win a unanimous decision in a bout television broadcasters boasted as the first fight televised live from coast to coast.

Aragon's career was also boosted by controversy. Tommy Campbell testified he "threw" a 1950 knockout loss to Aragon. Boxing officials claimed Carter sandbagged his first fight against Aragon on a Mafia figure's orders, and the California Athletic Commission investigated judges who awarded Aragon a disputed decision over Chuck Davey in 1954.

Aragon was later convicted of offering opponent Dick Goldstein $500 to fix a 1956 fight, but the verdict was overturned on appeal. Aragon was coy to friends and family about what really happened, his son said.

In fact, when his appeal attorney sent him a telegram telling him, "Justice was served," Aragon answered, "Appeal again," said former Times sportswriter John Hall.

From September 1954 to September 1958, Aragon was 21-1 with two victories over eventual world welterweight champion Don Jordan and a second triumph over Carter. He then fought former middleweight and welterweight champ Carmen Basilio at Wrigley Field, and suffered a punishing eighth-round TKO loss.

During the fight, referee Tommy Hart reportedly warned Aragon he was close to stopping the bout, to which Aragon responded, "What are you waiting for?" He also kidded that he should've sold advertising on the soles of his shoes.

Aragon's popularity gained him a role in the Audie Murphy film, "To Hell and Back," he counted Bob Hope as a golfing partner, and other friends included singer Sammy Davis Jr. and actors Robert Mitchum and William Holden.

Aragon announced his retirement from the ring after a 1960 TKO loss at the Olympic, and became a successful bail bondsman, with an office near the jail in downtown Los Angeles and, later, one in Van Nuys.

He remained a continual life of the party, once driving Times sports columnist Jim Murray to a strip club for lunch in 1963. Murray complained about the quality of the chicken he was eating, then described the reaction in the newspaper:

" 'Strippers cost three grand a week and you want squab under glass, too?' Aragon screamed. He had me there."

Aragon celebrated his 80th birthday at a Hollywood restaurant in November, entertaining friends and family (including three ex-wives) despite an ongoing struggle with pugilistic dementia, his son said.

"Dad was fulfilled," Brad Aragon said. "He was married four times, had six kids, traveled the world, riding camels around the Egyptian pyramids. . . . I'm sitting here looking at 15 scrapbooks filled with memories."

In addition to Brad, he is survived by four other children: Georgian, Audie, Mindy and Nancy; and four grandchildren. Another son, Art Jr., was killed in a motorcycle accident.

Services are pending.

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Art Aragon, the charismatic “Golden Boy” and a favorite of boxing fans at Los Angeles and Hollywood venues in the 1940s and '50s, died Tuesday in Northridge. Aragon, who was 80, had suffered a stroke March 15. He is shown in 1998.
(Los Angeles Times)
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After leaving the ring, Aragon, seen in a 1988 file photo, became a successful bail bondsman with offices near the jail in downtown Los Angeles and Van Nuys.
(Los Angeles Times)
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Thats me with Art Aragon
Jan., 2007
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kikibalt wrote:God love us Mexicans!

White Wedding vs. Mexican Wedding

WHITES: Send out invitations.
MEXICANS: Send out maps.

WHITES: Receive their invitations 3 months in advance.
MEXICANS: Find out about the wedding 1 week before.

WHITES: Have seven BridesMaids.
MEXICANS: Have seven Padrinos.

WHITES: RSVP their invitation.
MEXICANS: Show up with three car loads.

WHITES: Go to the wedding AND the reception.
MEXICANS: Just go to the reception.

WHITES: Show up with a Gift
MEXICANS: Forgot the gift, but tey'll send it latter.

WHITES: Have elegant food.
MEXICANS: Have arroz, frijoles and birria.

WHITES: Order the cake from a bakery.
MEXICANS: Have their cake done by la senora down the street.

WHITES: Eat the food and cake.
MEXICANS: Eat the food and cake....... AND take some home para manana

WHITES: At the reception, they drink wine
MEXICANS: At the reception, they drink Coors, Budweiser. Bud Light Bud Ice, Corona , Tecate, Pacifico, Casadores, Patron, Presidente, Jose Cuervo Gusano's, Reposado, …

WHITES: Relatives get drunk and pass out.
MEXICANS: Get drunk, shed a few tears and start singing to Vicente Fernandez songs, fight … then pass out.

WHITES: Dance at the party … YEAH RIGHT!!!
MEXICANS: Dance at the party to Nortenas, Rancheras, Reggaeton,Rap,Old school, Oldies, House …

WHITES: Party ends at midnight.
MEXICANS: Party ends when the COPS show up.

WHITES: Wake up the next morning NOT WANTING another beer.
MEXICANS: Wake up the next morning DRINKING another beer.

Now, you know you were laughing - cuz you've done at least 6 of
these. I sure have!!!
Yeah,you're Mexican.
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I want to start by saying Rest in Peace, Art Aragon! I grew up listening to stories about you, in the ring and out. Many of these stories stimulated my interest in boxing, one that grew into a passion. I know your son, and a chance to meet you on more than one occasion.

Without question, there is only ONE "Golden Boy", and that is ART ARAGON!

To "El Gato", welcome mi amigo!. You will find this the best thread ever, and the same goes for those who post here. Make yourself comfortable here champ, you are in the company of friends, some you know, and others whom you will find great pleasure in getting to know.

Tu amigo . . .

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kikibalt wrote:Image
Thats me with Art Aragon
Jan., 2007
Los Hombres Como Los Osos Son Mas Hermosos.
He must hsve been a good friend. He must have been a good guy.
Don't worry pal. I think our wives know that no one else would put up with us.


When I think that maybe the grass is greener on the other side,I always come back to this. One time me and my wife were chaparoning some French Foreign Exchange Students. There were like 15 girls. Let me tell ya' pal they were wild. Well,they wanted to go to Tijuana. So we take a bus down there on a Saturday afternoon. These French dames want to see the "real" Tijuana,not where the tourists go on Revolucion Street.I'm with my wife,and besides they're teenage girls,so I ain't taking them to the "Coahuila". So we go a few blocks off Revolucion where the locals go shopping. The "mercados",Guadalupe Church,"Parque Zaragosa". The "real" Tijuana.

We're all standing in front of the "Guadalupe" Church when these two drunk "gringos" turn the corner and grab one of the French girls asses. Great. So I push the idiot and tell him he's out of line. The two drunks are standing in front of me and one of them says,"Hey man no one pushes me."
Well I try to explain to this idiot that we're standing in the most populated area of the city. If we get into a fight,regardless of who starts it or who's right,we're both going to jail. Well this diesn't stop this guy. Now he's putting his finger on my chest telling me he's going to kick my ass.

Well a crowd is starting to form around us and the drunk guy is still poking his finger on my chest,and the next thing I know I throw a left hook right on this ass hole's chin. Down he goes. I'm on top of him making sure I don't cheap shot him because I got the crowd on my side and I don't want them to see me fight dirty.I'm pounding him in the face when I look up and I see his friend getting ready to kick me in the head. Like a bolt of lightening,my wife comes flying out of the crowd and leaps on this guy's back. She's pounding her fists on the back of his head. It looks kinda' funny. This guy with my wife on his shoulders with her going absolutely ape. She's pounding the shit out of this guy!

Well here's the kicker.My wife is screaming at me . "Matalo! Matalo!"(Kill him! Kill him!) My guy has finally had enough and I get up to help my wife. This dude starts yelling at me,"Get her off me!"

These two knuckleheads are lying on the sidewalk in front of a thousand people in front of the "Guadalupe" Church. I'm standing in front of the church. My shirt is torn and I got this guy's blood all over me. I look out to the street and here's a million cops with their batons in their hands running full steam at me. Now I'm going to die. Then the strangest thing happened. These million cops all stop running about 20 feet in front of me. Like they got a signal. Everything is quiet. There's dead silence. Everything is still. A pause. And then in unision, these cops turn and run over to these laid out guys, me and my wife had just beat up in the street,and start belting the shit out of them with their batons! I'm staring at this all alone ,and walk away! We all rendevous at the parking lot. The French dames had the time of their lives.

I'm driving home thinking. How did I get out of there in one piece? Maybe standing in front of the "Guadalupe" Church had something to do with it. Maybe the patron saint of Mexico was looking out for me. Who knows? But I know this,how can you not love a woman who's telling you to kill the other guy you're fighting ?
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WBHOF "Ten count" . . .

This Sunday the WBHOF well honor, "Women in Boxing", at the Commerce Casino in the City of Commerce.

I have agreed to read the names of boxing personalities who have passed away during the past year, and it looks as if I've two more legendary L.A. boxing figures to add to my list, Art Aragon & Luis Magana.

I feel kinda like a "grave digger". I will try to avoid some of my favorite thoughts of some, or I just might break out a smile as Armando Muniz rings the bell ten times in their honor. Aragon had such great lines, I wonder how he would address such a thing????

By the way, you who post here are the best! Thanks.

-Rick Farris
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Rest in Peace, Art Aragon.
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kikibalt wrote:Image
Thats me with Art Aragon
Jan., 2007
You can see this guy had something.
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Art Aragon's bail bondsman card had the slogan: I'll get you out if it takes a lifetime."

Great sense of humor.

Another time at a weigh in he came in seven pounds over, announced he was going to the john and once there removed some lead weights inside his shorts then stunned everyone by making weight.
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Why was Art Aragon booed?

Art Aragon was boo because in a radio interview he said that he was not Mexican and back at the time he was fighting about 60% of the fans were Mexican Nationals, the other 40% were like me Mexican-American, we cheered Aragon, they booed him, and we would all pack the Olympic-Hollywood Legion Stadium to see him fight and he loved that since most of the time he fought for a piece of the gate, the Mexican Nationals never forgave him for beating Enrique Bolanos twice, that too was another reason for the booing by the Mex-Nat's.

I seen about 90% of Aragon's fights live starting in 1949 whe he fought Harold "Baby Face" Jones in Hollywood.
I don't think I miss any of his big fights in the 1950's, my wife and I were ringside for his last fight vs Alvaro Gutierrez (1-21-1960) at the Olympic.

In the last few years I would see him at functions we would attend, the last time I seen Art was at a Golden State Boxer's Association function on December 14, 2007, I had with me a copy of the Knockout magazine with a picture of him on the cover, I ask him to sign it for me, he takes the magazine and looks at the picture of himself and he tell me "I fought that guy"

Frank
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enrique wrote:Another time at a weigh in he came in seven pounds over, announced he was going to the john and once there removed some lead weights inside his shorts then stunned everyone by making weight.
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That was for the Jimmy Carter title fight (11-14-1951)
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bennie wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Image
Thats me with Art Aragon
Jan., 2007
You can see this guy had something.
Charisma!! And as you can tell, the guy on the left is fairly charismatic himself.

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scartissue wrote:
bennie wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Image
Thats me with Art Aragon
Jan., 2007
You can see this guy had something.
Charisma!! And as you can tell, the guy on the left is fairly charismatic himself.

Scartissue
I agree.
What a great picture that is.
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Was Art good with 'the ladies', Frankie?
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Art Aragon and Joey Olmos
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bennie wrote:Was Art good with 'the ladies', Frankie?
His first wife Georgian accused him in divorce papers of cheating on her with 46 women!!
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kikibalt wrote:
bennie wrote:Was Art good with 'the ladies', Frankie?
His first wife Georgian accused him in divorce papers of cheating on her with 46 women!!
Superb. :D
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bennie wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
bennie wrote:Was Art good with 'the ladies', Frankie?
His first wife Georgian accused him in divorce papers of cheating on her with 46 women!!
Superb. :D
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Art, new girlfriend and wife Georgian at divorce court.

When Georgian accuse him of cheating on her with 46 women, he said "no she is wrong it was only 23"
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Man, this guy lived!
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Its October 1951 and Art aragon and Jimmy Carter're to fight a rematch of their August 28 fight on November 14, this time Carter' lightweight title is on the line.

Keeny Teran is also fighting on the card, a 6 rounder

I was at their first fight won by Aragon and I wanted to go to this one too, so I ask my dad "Pops can I heve 5 buck to go to the fight?", he in turn tells me "Mijo there is no money, what with Christmas coming and all", a few days later he came home with two tickets, my uncle also bought tickets.

Its fight nite November 14, we get together with my uncle Tony, Ray and John, two more uncles were to meet us there, which they did, we get to the Olympic and we can't fine parking, finely we fine parking 4 blocks from the Olympic, now my uncle John is on a wheelchair, had been all his life, at this point in time he was about 33-34 years old, since I'm the youngest of the group my dad and uncles tell me I had to push uncle John and push I did, I would push him as fast as I could and then let him go, he was so mad that I thought he was going to jump of the wheelchair and come after me.

Once we got inside the Olympic I push John as close as I could to ringside, then I had to go to the balcony, all the seat were reserved, our's were all the way back, up against the wall, did I care? no!.

Aragon comes into the ring first, as soon as I seen Aragon I turn around and told my dad and uncles that Aragon was going to lose, they ask me "why?" I told them that Aragon was so pale from making weight that he looked like Gaspar the friendly ghost, he lost.

And now its time for Keeny's fight and since many people left after the Aragon-Carter fight, I was able to go down to ringside for that fight, Keeny boxed beautiful and won a 6 round decision.

What a great nite for a 15 year old boy!!
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kikibalt wrote:What a great nite for a 15 year old boy!!
And Jimmy Carter as well. :wink:
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