Terry D wrote:
Tszyu's stamina was there for Tackie. Like it or not Tackie is hard to shift and Tszyu boxed wonderfully in that fight. It was a complete exhibition without any of the late near-drama suffered by Hatton, a young Hatton at that, against the same man.
A struggle in Mitchell I is not bad given that many thought Mitchell had the style to beat him and the commentary for the fight is practically a coronation for a King, Mitchell, who never came.
The struggle against Urkal came prior to the biggest fight in his career, many of these fights are struggles. Oscar versus Sturm for example but in the case of Oscar it is a sign of how underrated Sturm was/is. Urkal continued contesting titles long after this fight.
How was Judah asleep? That is just pure nonsense. Judah got his flaws exposed but they were not being exposed prior to this KO. Are you seriously saying that Judah landed big shots then thought "I can have a nap now, why go for the finish when I can coast?". Again it is pure nonsense. Judah was hunted down and destroyed. It is plain to see if you watch the 1st round that Tszyu was coming into the bout. Are you seriously saying that the sole cause of the win was Judah's previously unseen narcolepsy? I guess Judah needed a wake-up call, despite getting one in round 1 and two in round 2.
There are shut outs and there is taking the piss using your skill. Tszyu rolled back to his amateur days near enough in the Tackie fight. You said Tszyu was gone after Urkal, then you realigned your position to avoid looking silly. Judah, Tackie and Mitchell II show why this was a necessary move on your part.
Leija gave him problems but did he look like a winner? Not at all. Tszyu often looks poor early in a fight. Often messy but he has a brain and works things out.
Maybe the 2nd Mitchell fight was a sign that Tszyu's bigger shots, as you admit, in fight 1 had done some damage to Mitchell. Also some of those later stoppages came at a higher weight and against reasonably decent guys like Mayweather and Williams, did you not know this, or are you deliberately misleading here?
Tszyu never fought Phillips again. Kostya does not like being smothered, bullied and backed-up. That is why he lost those two fights, that is why he did not seek rematches and in my opinion the only fight for him was a rematch and he did not fancy a rough night.
You and DG twist the story to discredit Kostya in my opinion.
Please don't put me in the same boat as DG. I didn't claim Tyszu to be shot but said he had slid since 1999 to gradually be a lesser fighter but still a very good 1, I wouldn't say he was shot, just not a prime fighter. Do you think that 35yo Tyszu was in his prime?
Maybe Hatton would beat any version of Tyszu but I would pick Tyszu to score a Ko in rounds 8-10 after sharing the first 6 or win a UD. What about you? Phillips fought Tyszu very differently to Hatton and won in a brutal war, its a shame Phillips became a crack addict after this fight because he could have been something
How was Judah asleep, he walked back with his hands down and switched off, HUGE MISTAKE. Thats going to sleep and a school boy error against a banger