Unheralded boxers of the past

plopeater · Post by **plopeater** » 30 Mar 2008, 06:09

Each week at around 1200 GMT I will post the name of a boxwer from the past, not a great, but someone who did a lot for boxing.

We boxing fans can then discuss them.

It will be a boxer who has retired so you may have to research them

Robinson · Post by **Robinson** » 30 Mar 2008, 06:14

Please do...

Who is up first

plopeater · Post by **plopeater** » 30 Mar 2008, 07:11

Midget Wolgast

Crack on gents

Robinson · Post by **Robinson** » 30 Mar 2008, 07:50

" Joseph Robert Loscalzo was born in Philadelphia on July 18, 1910 of Italian-American descent. His size undoubtedly accounted for the name "Midget," and he may have taked the professional name of Wolgast after the famous light heavyweight champion of the early 20th Century, Ad Wolgast, who was best known for successfully defending his title against Joe Rivers on July 4, 1912, when after what appeared to be a double knockout in the 13th round the referee inexplicably picked Wolgast off the canvas and declared him the winner.

Midget Wolgast's professional boxing career started in 1927. He won 22 of his first 25 matches. The world flyweight title had been vacated in 1929 by the retirement of Corporal Izzy Schwartz. On March 21, 1930, Midget Wolgast won a 15 round fight against Black Bill, which resulted in the New York Commission recognizing him as the flyweight champion of the world. The National Boxing Association refused to recognize Wolgast as champion, however, and designated Frankie Genaro as champion.

Wolgast (in photo above, right) and Genaro (photo left) fought in New York to clear up the dispute, but the fight ended in a draw. Genaro went on to Europe to lose to Young Perez, and Wolgast went to Oakland, California to lose his title to Small Montana. That, incidentally, would prove to be the last flyweight championship fight in the United States for the next forty years.

Not known as a power puncher, Midget Wolgast was fast and a little clumsy–a scrapper. He fought a total of 142 times, winning 81 by decisions and 11 by knockout. Newsboy Brown beat him, but not for the title. "

Taken from
http://www.fortunecity.com/olympia/demp ... idget.html

I really know very little about the lower weight classes, and have not seen to many flyweights.

What are your thoughts on him ? Are there any clips of fights of his on film?

plopeater · Post by **plopeater** » 30 Mar 2008, 08:08

Sorry Robinson

People are suggesting a poll should i be banned.

It seems I am not allowed to express my opinion

granberry · Post by **granberry** » 30 Mar 2008, 11:43

"the famous light heavyweight champion of the early 20th Century, Ad Wolgast,"

That's a winner.

granberry · Post by **granberry** » 30 Mar 2008, 11:44

plopeater wrote:Sorry Robinson

People are suggesting a poll should i be banned.

It seems I am not allowed to express my opinion

That is the poisonous feminine snake of boxrec, collins,

at work.

Ignore that piece of garbage and his crew of stooges.

granberry · Post by **granberry** » 30 Mar 2008, 14:31

plop,

Notice that collins NEVER posts on the subject of boxing.

He only contaminates boxrec with his juvenile ad hominem attacks on other posters.

Robinson · Post by **Robinson** » 30 Mar 2008, 17:54

Why are you up for being banned ?

Collins2000 · Post by **Collins2000** » 30 Mar 2008, 18:06

Robinson wrote:Why are you up for being banned ?

I think it was someone in one of the other forums on boxrec.

I have no wish to see him banned. What's his crime?

Anyway, as long as granberry and his two lickspittles are welcome here, then there is no case to be made against anyone regarding a ban.

Robinson · Post by **Robinson** » 30 Mar 2008, 18:13

Lickspittle.....:)

never heard that one..sounds like an exotic boiled candy.

Collins2000 · Post by **Collins2000** » 30 Mar 2008, 19:30

Robinson wrote:Lickspittle.....:)

never heard that one..sounds like an exotic boiled candy.

It's a word that has fallen out of use somewhat. It's meaning:

A fawning underling; a toady

Robinson · Post by **Robinson** » 30 Mar 2008, 20:06

Lickspittle vs Shill

p4p1 · Post by **p4p1** » 30 Mar 2008, 20:19

how about we make up a thread for collins and granberry to trash each other

Collins2000 · Post by **Collins2000** » 30 Mar 2008, 20:22

Robinson wrote:Lickspittle vs Shill

Yeah, how about that other title he was handing out - lowest form of insect was it?

lowest form of insect vs boring old hypocritical bitch

Collins2000 · Post by **Collins2000** » 30 Mar 2008, 20:31

p4p1 wrote:how about we make up a thread for collins and granberry to trash each other

Why not?

But how would that help?

You couldn't get that old bitch to keep the bullshite in one thread could you? It's there in EVERY post he makes.

Even on "the greatest thread ever" he started his crapola "theories" again. The real boxing guys told him he was full of shite but he keeps crawling back, dropping turds everywhere he goes.

Robinson · Post by **Robinson** » 30 Mar 2008, 20:31

Feminine snake vs Nutberry.

The more I say nutberry the more I am curious to know what it'd taste like..sounds like a herbal tea.

Collins2000 · Post by **Collins2000** » 30 Mar 2008, 20:35

Robinson wrote:Feminine snake vs Nutberry.

The more I say nutberry the more I am curious to know what it'd taste like..sounds like a herbal tea.

Nutberry is the name given to him by the real boxing guys on "the greatest thread ever".

Despite the claims by battered wife boxbuzz and the two lickspittles, the consensus on "the greatest thread ever" is that granberry is a boring old fraud.

p4p1 · Post by **p4p1** » 30 Mar 2008, 20:56

Collins2000 wrote:
p4p1 wrote:how about we make up a thread for collins and granberry to trash each other

Why not?

But how would that help?

You couldn't get that old bitch to keep the bullshite in one thread could you? It's there in EVERY post he makes.

Even on "the greatest thread ever" he started his crapola "theories" again. The real boxing guys told him he was full of shite but he keeps crawling back, dropping turds everywhere he goes.

how old is he?

i think it would most probably be a piss funny thread