Looks like Krasniqi has got it...

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 14 Feb 2004, 19:37

Majority decision over Sam. Good win.

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 14 Feb 2004, 19:43

bennie wrote:Majority decision over Sam. Good win.

ggod win , bad prediction

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 14 Feb 2004, 19:47

REAL_DEAL wrote:
bennie wrote:Majority decision over Sam. Good win.
ggod win , bad prediction

Did anyone go for Krasniqi?

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 14 Feb 2004, 19:51

bennie wrote:
REAL_DEAL wrote:
bennie wrote:Majority decision over Sam. Good win.
ggod win , bad prediction
Did anyone go for Krasniqi?

a few on BA

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 15 Feb 2004, 08:35

I only saw one winner here, so well done to Krasniqi. I have never seen him fight but his record suggested to me that Sam would win. Oh well...

TheGoods · Post by **TheGoods** » 15 Feb 2004, 09:02

http://www.bettingzone.co.uk/story_get. ... 82529.html

Never said I told you so, but....

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 15 Feb 2004, 09:16

Krasniqi looked terrible against Julius Francis. I thought he was just another fairly tough, limited, boring to watch european heavyweight, who would be beaten by the tough, but very slightly less limited Samil Sam.

wasn't expecting this. He must've performed significantly better against Sam.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 15 Feb 2004, 09:43

TheGoods wrote:http://www.bettingzone.co.uk/story_get. ... 82529.html

Never said I told you so, but....

Yeah, but you also went for Kirk Johnson over Vitali...

Seriously, kudos on a good pick. Was just saying the other day how the fighter with more 'live' rounds under his belt going into a big fight is often the winner, and Krasniqi had two vital eight-rounders in a period when Sam was getting over his disappointing loss to Gomez (but I still went for Sam). Furthermore, weight with these big guys is so important (as many have already mentioned on here). Kirk Johnson coming in seriously overweight made a Vitali win almost academic, as did Danny Williams when he fought Sprott last month (to a lesser extent) and Julius Francis against Skelton.
Krasniqi I noticed, was lighter than normal at the weigh-in (as Matt Skelton was against Francis). This is an excellent sign.
Incidentally, Graham Houston went for both Sam and Clinton Woods in recent weeks in Flash Gordon's boxing newsletter. He's also gone for Erik Morales against Jesus Chavez next week. I don't know. Off the top of my head, Chavez is coming off a good hard 12-rounder to win the title. Morales' last couple of fights have been blowouts. The more 'live' rounds remember.

Dutch Windmill · Post by **Dutch Windmill** » 15 Feb 2004, 16:58

Just to put things in perspective(not trying to take your explanation down bennie lol: )

I scored the fight 116-115 Sam, the other boxreccers I talked too at the time scored it all for Sam, varying from 117-113 till 117-115.
Also spoke to two guys today who watched it indepentely, and scored it also for Sam

It's clear that Universum wants to get rid of Sanil Sam. Krasniqi is more marketable. Kohl tried to take the Euro belt to Krasniqi by making a big deal of the Hepatitus B infection of Sam.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 15 Feb 2004, 19:19

Kohl is nothing but a corrupt scumbag, the likes of which Boxing needs about as much as i need those little orange spots back on my nether regions

Dave1armedTua · Post by **Dave1armedTua** » 15 Feb 2004, 21:02

Even if Kohl wasn't involved, the judges would have screwed Sam. German judges LOOOOOOVE runners. Look at Ottke if you don't believe me.

Riding around on a tricycle and playing patty-cake is a blueprint for success over there.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 15 Feb 2004, 23:35

Williams is looking worse by the day on the back of Sam's recent run.

Morales is going to kick Chavez butt bigtime - take it to the bank!!

Then again, I did go for Sam too!

Chambers · Post by **Chambers** » 16 Feb 2004, 09:11

bennie wrote:Did anyone go for Krasniqi?

Yup

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 16 Feb 2004, 09:17

Chambers wrote:
bennie wrote:Did anyone go for Krasniqi?
Yup

I'm on to you Chambers 8)

TheGoods · Post by **TheGoods** » 16 Feb 2004, 14:59

I also reckon Chavez has got a fair shout of upsetting Morales. Like you say Bennie Morales has not really been tested since the return with Barrera. He went 12 with Paulie Ayala but won at an absolute canter and was never pushed. The 4/1 odds on Chavez are far too big if you ask me.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 16 Feb 2004, 15:10

TheGoods wrote:I also reckon Chavez has got a fair shout of upsetting Morales. Like you say Bennie Morales has not really been tested since the return with Barrera. He went 12 with Paulie Ayala but won at an absolute canter and was never pushed. The 4/1 odds on Chavez are far too big if you ask me.

Any idea of the odds on Garry Delaney?

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 16 Feb 2004, 15:15

bennie wrote:
TheGoods wrote:I also reckon Chavez has got a fair shout of upsetting Morales. Like you say Bennie Morales has not really been tested since the return with Barrera. He went 12 with Paulie Ayala but won at an absolute canter and was never pushed. The 4/1 odds on Chavez are far too big if you ask me.
Any idea of the odds on Garry Delaney?

make up your own

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 16 Feb 2004, 15:22

I may do that on betfair. I have a feeling Enzo will struggle this weekend. As for the other big fights: I will stick a few quid on Mkrtchian and Jesus Chavez. Calzaghe may be making the fatal mistake of looking ahead, while Morales is jumping up a weight to challenge for a world title, which is tough for anyone, even a man who has beaten Injin Chi.

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 16 Feb 2004, 15:30

Enzo wins in the first

shakermaker · Post by **shakermaker** » 16 Feb 2004, 15:43

bennie wrote:I may do that on betfair. I have a feeling Enzo will struggle this weekend. As for the other big fights: I will stick a few quid on Mkrtchian and Jesus Chavez. Calzaghe may be making the fatal mistake of looking ahead, while Morales is jumping up a weight to challenge for a world title, which is tough for anyone, even a man who has beaten Injin Chi.

I've been thinking the same thing, these Eastern Europeans are tough and JC could be in for a tougher nights work that many are predicting.

Morales/Chavez looks like a points win for somebody and it could be another controversial night in the States this weekend

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 16 Feb 2004, 16:08

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 16 Feb 2004, 16:27

REAL_DEAL wrote:Enzo wins in the first

Name the last fighter to win three fights on the spin in the first round?

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 16 Feb 2004, 16:50

bennie wrote:
REAL_DEAL wrote:Enzo wins in the first
Name the last fighter to win three fights on the spin in the first round?

Championship or other?

do you know?

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 16 Feb 2004, 16:51

REAL_DEAL wrote:
bennie wrote:
REAL_DEAL wrote:Enzo wins in the first
Name the last fighter to win three fights on the spin in the first round?
Championship or other?

do you know?

I don't to be honest. But there ain't many. Gaby Canizales springs to mind in the 80's (and he lost at the end of his run).

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 16 Feb 2004, 16:57

pretty sure tyson got 4 or 5 in a row

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