Hypothetical Match-Up Game

theone · Post by **theone** » 01 Apr 2008, 07:22

Qawi makes Carpentier wish he were fighting battlin Siki.
Qawi tko 2.

Tommy Hearns vs Henry Armstrong

Robinson · Post by **Robinson** » 01 Apr 2008, 20:47

Thomas Hearns in a blistering war of razor jabbs and left hooks and the relentless assault of hurricane hank.

Joe Louis Vs Jack Johnson peak for peak 15 rounds.

bobbyd · Post by **bobbyd** » 02 Apr 2008, 02:56

Robinson wrote:Thomas Hearns in a blistering war of razor jabbs and left hooks and the relentless assault of hurricane hank.

Joe Louis Vs Jack Johnson peak for peak 15 rounds.

you didnt state exactly how it would result between Hearns and Armstrong. 8)

I Think That Jack Johnson would win a UD over Joe Louis.

On a Further note,I Think That Hearns would win by UD over Armstrong.
They'rd be a couple knockdowns by Hearns in the early rounds but Armstrong would weather the storm and have his own moments but Hearns would be just simply too Big with Too much Power and Reach.
Armstrong was an incredible lightweight but at Welter,he'd simply be too much outsized,overwhelmed and overpowered against a WelterWeight version of Hearns. 8)

bobbyd · Post by **bobbyd** » 02 Apr 2008, 03:01

bobbyd wrote:
Robinson wrote:Thomas Hearns in a blistering war of razor jabbs and left hooks and the relentless assault of hurricane hank.

Joe Louis Vs Jack Johnson peak for peak 15 rounds.
you didnt state exactly how it would result between Hearns and Armstrong. 8)

I Think That Jack Johnson would win a UD over Joe Louis.

On a Further note,I Think That Hearns would win by UD over Armstrong.
They'rd be a couple knockdowns by Hearns in the early rounds but Armstrong would weather the storm and have his own moments but Hearns would be just simply too Big with Too much Power and Reach.
Armstrong was an incredible lightweight but at Welter,he'd simply be too much outsized,overwhelmed and overpowered against a WelterWeight version of Hearns. 8)

Oops...Almost Forgot to add mine........

Ray Mancini vs Arturo Gatti at LW....12 Rounds.

samtheassassinatkins · Post by **samtheassassinatkins** » 02 Apr 2008, 05:13

Gatti by UD

George Foreman (1994) vs. Joe Louis (just after second Schmeling fight)

Goodnight, Irene · Post by **Goodnight, Irene** » 02 Apr 2008, 05:50

samtheassassinatkins wrote:Gatti by UD

Joe Frasier (1994) vs. Joe Louis (just after second Schmeling fight)

Robinson · Post by **Robinson** » 02 Apr 2008, 05:55

Sorry I ment Hearns by UD.

Do you mean 1974 or 1994 ?

samtheassassinatkins · Post by **samtheassassinatkins** » 02 Apr 2008, 07:48

sorry i meant Foreman

Robinson · Post by **Robinson** » 02 Apr 2008, 18:37

Louis by UD ala Holyfield-Foreman 1991.

Gerry Cooney Vs Andrew Golota both at there best. 10 rounds/

HomicideHenry · Post by **HomicideHenry** » 03 Apr 2008, 02:06

~applauds Robinson~

You sure know how to come up with interesting brawls, I commend you!

Anyways, my opinion is that Cooney would have won via 8th round knock out, possibly sooner. While Golota had all the potential in the world, I just don't believe he ever had the heart and the sheer determination that Cooney had, who always fought hardest when in defeat...also, Cooney, before Tyson came about, quite possibly was THE hardest hitting heavyweight of the 1980's and arguably had a harder single shot than Tyson did...Golota looked amazing against Bowe in both those fights, but my God, why the hell he squanderd it all I will never understand.

Anyways.....next bout on the agenda....biggest versus smallest....

Nicolay Valuev against Tommy Burns, 15 rounds

Robinson · Post by **Robinson** » 03 Apr 2008, 05:12

I hope you dont men the aussie Burns....forget what weight he fought at in the 1950s

Id say Valuev 300lb KO's Burns 181lb Rnd 3.

Floyd Patterson Vs Dwight Qawi/Braxton peak for peak 15 rounds.

bobbyd · Post by **bobbyd** » 04 Apr 2008, 14:00

Robinson wrote:I hope you dont men the aussie Burns....forget what weight he fought at in the 1950s

Id say Valuev 300lb KO's Burns 181lb Rnd 3.

Floyd Patterson Vs Dwight Qawi/Braxton peak for peak 15 rounds.

Floyd wins by 10th rd tko. 8)

Primo Carnera vs. Jess Willard 15 rds.

HomicideHenry · Post by **HomicideHenry** » 04 Apr 2008, 14:12

Willard is often dismissed due to the massacre he suffered at the hands of Dempsey, but for majority of his career he could hang in the distance with most anybody, even with the best of 'white hopes' in Luther McCarty. He was fairly limited, though, from what I understand he mainly would throw the jab and when someone got too close he threw the uppercut, and he is an under-rated body puncher for being a big man...Carnera is often dismissed due to his 'mob connections' and is labeled a creme puff, but he had a good jab, knew how to use his size, and had a decent punch as well...I think Willard is tougher, and would have been one of the few men who would have had a size advantage over Carnera; I think it plays for a wild, sloppy encounter with Willard winning on a TKO late.

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Evander Holyfield [Cruiserweight] vs James Toney [Cruiserweight], 12 rounds

Robinson · Post by **Robinson** » 04 Apr 2008, 19:22

Thats a pretty damned cool match up...

Holyfield out works Toney, both give as good as they get. In the later rounds Holyfields punch rate stays high and is able to dictate the pace, as Toney realy starts to look for one big shot.

Holyfield UD 12. Re-match is much talked about immediately.

James J Jeffries Vs Jack Dempsey 15 rounds. Both men at the height of there powers

HomicideHenry · Post by **HomicideHenry** » 04 Apr 2008, 21:02

God damn it I love your style Robinson!

James J. Jeffries against The Manassa Mauler plays out for possibly the biggest slugfest in years! Jeffries keeps soaking up the blows, and Dempsey keeps on keeping on, wailing away his rights and lefts...I can see Jeffries might knocking Dempsey down a few times, and I can see Dempsey doing it as well, both men swollen and bruised, cut nearly to ribbons...I hate to say it, but in the 15 round format, I see Dempsey winning the decision because he is faster and able to connect more often.

Both men end up in the hospital afterwards

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Rocky Marciano vs Gene Tunney, 15 rounds

Robinson · Post by **Robinson** » 04 Apr 2008, 21:23

Now we have a hard one...we know the Rock's record against top LHW that became HW kings....but Tunney..the tamer of Dempsey....this would be a pretty interesting fight.

Both men are in top shape...
By the tenth round, two judges have Tunney ahead by 2 points, the other has it even. Marciano swarming in, blasting the body and mixing shots to the head. Tunney does well to work the clinch and move, pecking away behind a well schooled jab followed by clockwork like uppercuts and right crosses.

A minute into round 10, Marciano lands a cross that drops Tunney. He is up at six, Marciano is on him again...Tunney is still clearly wobbly and rocked. He backpedals, trying to clear himself behind his jab..though now he is slower. Marciano lands a left to the body followed by a right hook that lands high on the temple...as Tunney rolls with it Marciano lands a clean uppercut. Tunney crumbles, heavy his legs are beneath him..he gets up....at 9. The round ends...

Round 11, Marciano does not let up, Tunney is now very hittable he is backing up on his heels and at times whinces to hard Marciano body blows. The wind is out of his sails....he does well to clinch and tie Marciano up. just past the minute mark Tunney crumbles to the canvas almost lifelessly as a Marciano cross slams into his jaw. He is up at 8, but the referee waves him off...clearly unable to respond well to the Referee Richard Steele's question.

Marciano TKO 11.

Jersey Joe Walcott Vs James Toney over 12 rounds. Both under 200lbs.In solid good shape.

HomicideHenry · Post by **HomicideHenry** » 04 Apr 2008, 22:55

By the tenth round, two judges have Tunney ahead by 2 points, the other has it even. Marciano swarming in, blasting the body and mixing shots to the head. Tunney does well to work the clinch and move, pecking away behind a well schooled jab followed by clockwork like uppercuts and right crosses.

A minute into round 10, Marciano lands a cross that drops Tunney. He is up at six, Marciano is on him again...Tunney is still clearly wobbly and rocked. He backpedals, trying to clear himself behind his jab..though now he is slower. Marciano lands a left to the body followed by a right hook that lands high on the temple...as Tunney rolls with it Marciano lands a clean uppercut. Tunney crumbles, heavy his legs are beneath him..he gets up....at 9. The round ends...

Round 11, Marciano does not let up, Tunney is now very hittable he is backing up on his heels and at times whinces to hard Marciano body blows. The wind is out of his sails....he does well to clinch and tie Marciano up. just past the minute mark Tunney crumbles to the canvas almost lifelessly as a Marciano cross slams into his jaw. He is up at 8, but the referee waves him off...clearly unable to respond well to the Referee Richard Steele's question.

Marciano TKO 11.

By that I am very impressed!

I think Jersey Joe wins a majority decision over Toney; would be a very interesting, fine scientific match-up with Walcott's manuevers and Toney's comination punching making for a very exciting fight...no doubt a rematch would be brought up afterwards.

How about this for a hypothetical.... Jerry Quarry vs Oscar 'Ringo' Bonavena

Robinson · Post by **Robinson** » 05 Apr 2008, 01:24

It amazes me that this fight never happened. It would have been a brusing barn burner.

Both guys have a lot of moments, round 5 Quarry is bloodied and slows up substantially. Bonavena is able to land cleaner shots through the sixth.

By round eight, the momentum of the fight has clearly started to go Bonavena's way.

The ref stops the fight in the 9th, awarding it as a TKO win for Bonavena as blood oozes heavily from Quarry's face.

Maxie Rosenbloom Vs Chris Byrd 12 rounds. At both their bests.

Syntax Error · Post by **Syntax Error** » 05 Apr 2008, 01:58

I see Byrd winning on points; no knockdowns or major scares to note.

Roberto Duran -v- Aaron Pryor (super lightweight 140 lb)?

p4p1 · Post by **p4p1** » 05 Apr 2008, 11:09

tough one very tough one but i think duran can win my a close decision in a very close fight

Jimmy Wilde vs Ricardo Lopez at flyweight

bobbyd · Post by **bobbyd** » 05 Apr 2008, 11:42

p4p1 wrote:tough one very tough one but i think duran can win my a close decision in a very close fight

Jimmy Wilde vs Ricardo Lopez at flyweight

No One can beat the Wildman at Flyweight.
Wilde by 11th Rd Tko in a Furious Brawl that ends with Lopez pinned to the Ropes and Wilde Going Wild. 8)

Danny Lopez vs Rueben Castillo 15 rounds.

What if Danny hadnt fought Sanchez and decided to defend his title against Castillo instead? 8)

HomicideHenry · Post by **HomicideHenry** » 05 Apr 2008, 16:28

Lopez cruises to a decision victory in the later rounds, after fighting tooth and nail for the first few stanzas...

Seeing Moore and Johansson on the set of Huck Finn, made me think how great a fight that would have been...so have at it boys, Ingemar Johansson versus Archie Moore, 15 rounds!

raylawpc · Post by **raylawpc** » 05 Apr 2008, 16:53

Johansson kayo in two (I'm Swedish - what do you expect?

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Benny Leonard v. Mickey Walker on August 20, 1924 at Yankee Stadium for Walker's world welterweight title.

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 05 Apr 2008, 20:29

leonard dazzles but begins to gas by the 12th and his massive points lead
amounts to zilch as walker catches up and throws the kitchen sink at him for the final 2 rounds. benny crumbles with 20 seconds of the 15th to go.

walker then decides to stay at middleweight to defend against unbeaten laszlo papp.

HomicideHenry · Post by **HomicideHenry** » 05 Apr 2008, 22:02

Am going to assume, your hypothetical was Greb-Papp, I must also assume it being a 15 rounder...though I like Greb, I can't see the wild swinging, though popular, Greb winning a fight against Papp; though I do see him going the distance. Papp wins a decision over Walker.

Michael Dokes [prime] vs Evander Holyfield [1989]; 12 rounds, more or less a prime Dokes against the same Holyfield who fought him when Dokes was on the downside and Evander just breaking into the Heavyweight division.