Andrew Facey goes for English title double

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 16 Feb 2004, 09:45

English light-middleweight champion Andrew "Smiley" Facey goes for the vacant English middleweight title when he meets Wayne Pinder on the Tony Dodson-Carl Froch bill in Nottingham on March 13.

kevo · Post by **kevo** » 16 Feb 2004, 10:11

Could be another 'upset' in the works. From what I've seen of Facey, he's an underated fighter (at domestic level anyway), and despite the knockdown he scored against J Moore being a bit dodgy, he can supposedly whack a bit.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 16 Feb 2004, 10:24

Perminant move to middle this? It could be a good thing - despite the light Middles being exposed I don't quite think Facey is good enough to win the bigger domestic honours at the weight.

At Middle, its a different story. Facey compares favourably to the likes of Farnell, Groenwald, Bendall and Dann (IMO). Just worried whether he'll have the durability/strength at the bigger weight.

mickeybeard · Post by **mickeybeard** » 16 Feb 2004, 10:29

Facey is useful. By all accounts, the multiple knockdowns against Moore were a result of intense pain through getting his teeth cracked during the first knockdown. Whether that's the case, only Facey and his people know, but he certainly didn't look really wobbled by the knockdowns (except the first) so it's either true or the man has great powers of recovery. I've only seen Pinder once, in his loss to Damon Hague, and was unimpressed, although I suppose it's not really fair to rate him on that one blow-out. Facey on points.

One day, Chris Sanigar will pull his finger out and get Scott Dann these kind of fights...

kevo · Post by **kevo** » 16 Feb 2004, 10:33

stujones wrote:Just worried whether he'll have the durability/strength at the bigger weight.

He started off at Light Heavy (i think!) so I can't see this being a problem.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 16 Feb 2004, 10:36

Kevo wrote:
stujones wrote:Just worried whether he'll have the durability/strength at the bigger weight.
He started off at Light Heavy (i think!) so I can't see this being a problem.

Fair points, its just a worry I have with all fighters moving up - hopefully there is nothing to worry about.

Kieran · Post by **Kieran** » 16 Feb 2004, 14:25

Andrew can fight at any weight from LM to LH.
Look at his record to verify that.
Wonder who could step in for an English LM fight when the belt is vacant ?
Now let me think.
Could it be a stable mate called Ryan Rhodes ?

Kieran · Post by **Kieran** » 16 Feb 2004, 14:26

By the way, Bennie the event has been moved to Friday 12-03-04 same venue.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 16 Feb 2004, 15:26

Kieran wrote:Andrew can fight at any weight from LM to LH.
Look at his record to verify that.
Wonder who could step in for an English LM fight when the belt is vacant ?
Now let me think.
Could it be a stable mate called Ryan Rhodes ?

Is Facey vacating the light-middle belt, Kieran?

Jacko11 · Post by **Jacko11** » 16 Feb 2004, 16:37

Jacko11 · Post by **Jacko11** » 16 Feb 2004, 16:39

Come on u spurs

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 16 Feb 2004, 20:13

Thats a bit tight on you there Peter, I was going to post on here to say, I hope Jacko gets a shout for the English title.

I thought Ryan was staying a middle, for me at his age (I know he's only 26or something, but is peaking now) I think he's mature enough to fit his natural middleweight frame.

Kieran · Post by **Kieran** » 17 Feb 2004, 06:46

Jacko,
I don't get this.
The fight was set as for the English Middleweight title against Rhodes, and you blew it being unable to do the weight.
Why is that everyone else's fault ?

TerribleTerry · Post by **TerribleTerry** » 17 Feb 2004, 07:04

Jacko,

are you boxing on Thursday night at Dudley town hall?
I will be at the show and look forward to seeing you in action.

theguru · Post by **theguru** » 17 Feb 2004, 17:46

The best fight I ever saw Jacko in was when Simeon Cover banged him out that was funny

Jacko11 · Post by **Jacko11** » 17 Feb 2004, 18:08

Guru it was funny fair play to Cover. All i remember was hitting the deck! lol... Come back well though chap,midland title holder and took Ryan Rhodes the distance where not many can do that shows my defence improved! x x x
Terry yes mate im on that show thursday come speak to me mate be good to meet you

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 17 Feb 2004, 18:11

Jacko11 wrote:Guru it was funny fair play to Cover.All i remeber was hitting the deck! lol... Come back well though chap,midland title holder and took Ryan Rhodes the distance where not many can do that shows my defence improved! x x x
Terry yes mate im on that show thursday come speak to me mate be good to meet you

Who are you fighting, Pete?

Jacko11 · Post by **Jacko11** » 17 Feb 2004, 18:13

Kieran get your facts right before you accuse chap...1) I pulled out ILL against Ryan,but it was for that title yes you are right 2) I was promised by John Ingle that i would be fighting for that title against someone of less class than Ryan other words an more even matched oppenent after xmas.
3) i learned that Facey (an ingle fighter) is now boxing for it.
Thats why i was SLIGHTLEY upset.I am not crying or complaining i am simpling stating facts.
JOHN INGLE just phoned me and put me right about the situation.
THANK YOU JOHN!!!!!!!!

theguru · Post by **theguru** » 17 Feb 2004, 18:27

It was a case of who connected first ufortunately for Jacko is was cover and then he more than stood up to Rhodes who has superior fire power to Cover,just goes to show really

Jacko11 · Post by **Jacko11** » 17 Feb 2004, 18:38

Yep Guru thanks you for ur complement chap.Very very awkward opponent Cover thought i would box his head off easy but hey what a hard puncher but im learning more and more every day.Nose is flat now but at least i've saved some money up from my fights