Prime Pacquaio vs Prime Hamed, catchweight 128

Jaybee From The Castle · Post by **Jaybee From The Castle** » 30 Mar 2008, 16:10

Your thoughts, gents?

plopeater · Post by **plopeater** » 30 Mar 2008, 16:35

if hamed was prepared correctly them i think he would have to much power for manny

Problem is nas would think he would who in one and end up losing on points

Good question mate

Floydp55 · Post by **Floydp55** » 30 Mar 2008, 17:14

it would go to the cards. m

then even if naz won twelve rounds pac would get the decision because he always does.

bjermaine · Post by **bjermaine** » 30 Mar 2008, 17:38

pac man too good for hamed imo.

observer1 · Post by **observer1** » 30 Mar 2008, 18:06

the Prince wins this easy if he takes the fight seriously

p4p1 · Post by **p4p1** » 30 Mar 2008, 19:23

if he takes it seriosly hamed gives pac man a flogging i watched the steve robinson fight last night with a 21 year old hamed in it that kid was something special if naz takes the fight seriosly he can ko anyone

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 31 Mar 2008, 07:47

are you suggesting he did not take barrera seriously?

Jaybee From The Castle · Post by **Jaybee From The Castle** » 31 Mar 2008, 09:21

p4p1 wrote:if he takes it seriosly hamed gives pac man a flogging i watched the steve robinson fight last night with a 21 year old hamed in it that kid was something special if naz takes the fight seriosly he can ko anyone

An 8th round KO of an aging Robinson, who was a small-time local champ who never fought outside Britain, is not indicative of being able to KO Manny. I remind you that just a few months earlier, hamed fought Vincenzo Belcastro, a euro-champ and failed to KO him.

observer1 · Post by **observer1** » 31 Mar 2008, 13:20

harrygreb wrote:are you suggesting he did not take barrera seriously?

He treated that Fight as a Joke, and in Turn, Barrera treat him as a Joke in the Ring..

Didn't one of Naz's Trainers Quit since the Prince wold never train seriously?

m1kee50 · Post by **m1kee50** » 31 Mar 2008, 15:06

Jaybee From The Castle wrote:
p4p1 wrote:if he takes it seriosly hamed gives pac man a flogging i watched the steve robinson fight last night with a 21 year old hamed in it that kid was something special if naz takes the fight seriosly he can ko anyone
An 8th round KO of an aging Robinson, who was a small-time local champ who never fought outside Britain, is not indicative of being able to KO Manny. I remind you that just a few months earlier, hamed fought Vincenzo Belcastro, a euro-champ and failed to KO him.

shame, really, how they treated Robinson, just to get Hamed the belt.

Wont be able to get Campbell the same now with Khan though, hes higher profile, and can just drop it.

p4p1 · Post by **p4p1** » 31 Mar 2008, 19:49

MatthewS wrote:
Jaybee From The Castle wrote:
p4p1 wrote:if he takes it seriosly hamed gives pac man a flogging i watched the steve robinson fight last night with a 21 year old hamed in it that kid was something special if naz takes the fight seriosly he can ko anyone
An 8th round KO of an aging Robinson, who was a small-time local champ who never fought outside Britain, is not indicative of being able to KO Manny. I remind you that just a few months earlier, hamed fought Vincenzo Belcastro, a euro-champ and failed to KO him.
shame, really, how they treated Robinson, just to get Hamed the belt.

Wont be able to get Campbell the same now with Khan though, hes higher profile, and can just drop it.

he dropped belcastro and had improved alot since then koing perez in two rounds who was a former world champion if he treated the fight right he could of beat manny

I Feel Fine · Post by **I Feel Fine** » 31 Mar 2008, 20:55

Hamed could barely take Kelley's punch. Pacquiao is better in most areas, and he would knock out Hamed or beat him by decision. So would Morales and maybe Marquez.

bjermaine · Post by **bjermaine** » 31 Mar 2008, 21:04

I Feel Fine wrote:Hamed could barely take Kelley's punch. Pacquiao is better in most areas, and he would knock out Hamed or beat him by decision. So would Morales and maybe Marquez.

i agree. hamed was very good but the only time he stepped up to an elite fighter, he was beaten. pacquiao's wins are way more impressive. barrera x2, morales x2, and marquez (close).

ringsider · Post by **ringsider** » 01 Apr 2008, 01:53

A who cares fight?

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 01 Apr 2008, 07:27

so, ive got a fight against marco antonio barrera coming up. its the biggest fight of my career and its in the US where i can really cement my rep as a modern great if i win. now, my preperation. perhaps i shouldnt train hard for it. training's getting too much like hard work. hey!! why dont i treat the whole thing as a joke. that'll really impress everyone.

klompton · Post by **klompton** » 01 Apr 2008, 09:30

"so, ive got a fight against marco antonio barrera coming up. its the biggest fight of my career and its in the US where i can really cement my rep as a modern great if i win. now, my preperation. perhaps i shouldnt train hard for it. training's getting too much like hard work. hey!! why dont i treat the whole thing as a joke. that'll really impress everyone. "

Not to mention I just had all my teeth knocked out in a life or death fight with china chinned Augie Sanchez, maybe I should be ready for anything...

Jaybee From The Castle · Post by **Jaybee From The Castle** » 01 Apr 2008, 14:37

klompton wrote:"so, ive got a fight against marco antonio barrera coming up. its the biggest fight of my career and its in the US where i can really cement my rep as a modern great if i win. now, my preperation. perhaps i shouldnt train hard for it. training's getting too much like hard work. hey!! why dont i treat the whole thing as a joke. that'll really impress everyone. "

Not to mention I just had all my teeth knocked out in a life or death fight with china chinned Augie Sanchez, maybe I should be ready for anything...

I actually predicted a Draw for that fight, on the following assumptions:

1) Hamed was going to come in at his very best;

2) Barrera was going to bang;

3 Anyone who could take that bad a beating from Erik Morales and still stay vertical was going to give Hamed a very rough night indeed.

As it is, he outpointed Nas by a long margin, I had it 10-2, Nas taking the 3rd and 7th.

Diamond WEAPON · Post by **Diamond WEAPON** » 01 Apr 2008, 15:42

They'd trade several knockdowns (shit anywhere from 3-6 each sounds about right) (Pacquiao has a lil trouble with southpaws like himself interestingly enough) but Pacquiao would win a borderline close/wide decision based particularly on workrate.

ringsider · Post by **ringsider** » 02 Apr 2008, 10:03

Diamond WEAPON wrote:They'd trade several knockdowns (shit anywhere from 3-6 each sounds about right) (Pacquiao has a lil trouble with southpaws like himself interestingly enough) but Pacquiao would win a borderline close/wide decision based particularly on workrate.

Jeeesh.....I guess that prediction covers pretty much all the bases except a KO. Borderline close/wide? WTF?

Diamond WEAPON · Post by **Diamond WEAPON** » 02 Apr 2008, 18:49

ringsider wrote:
Diamond WEAPON wrote:They'd trade several knockdowns (shit anywhere from 3-6 each sounds about right) (Pacquiao has a lil trouble with southpaws like himself interestingly enough) but Pacquiao would win a borderline close/wide decision based particularly on workrate.
Jeeesh.....I guess that prediction covers pretty much all the bases except a KO. Borderline close/wide? WTF?

What I meant was in a PTBF sense it would end up with scores like 116-112 twice, and 115-113. Or whatever it would be with all those knockdowns, which I certainly see happening. The margin of victory for Pacquiao would be in the 10-12 point range was what I was trying to say.

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 02 Apr 2008, 19:08

The Pac Man by KO!!

ringsider · Post by **ringsider** » 02 Apr 2008, 19:52

Diamond WEAPON wrote:
ringsider wrote:
Diamond WEAPON wrote:They'd trade several knockdowns (shit anywhere from 3-6 each sounds about right) (Pacquiao has a lil trouble with southpaws like himself interestingly enough) but Pacquiao would win a borderline close/wide decision based particularly on workrate.
Jeeesh.....I guess that prediction covers pretty much all the bases except a KO. Borderline close/wide? WTF?
What I meant was in a PTBF sense it would end up with scores like 116-112 twice, and 115-113. Or whatever it would be with all those knockdowns, which I certainly see happening. The margin of victory for Pacquiao would be in the 10-12 point range was what I was trying to say.

That is an even more confusing explanation.