It's his lack of charisma; the lack of exposure on free-to-air TV & the fact that he doesn't hail from a 'boxing' town/city IMO.WildWaylon wrote:This is not intended as way of getting yet another Hatton thread on here via the back door. Surely we can discuss Witter without having to mention his rival. The question is simple why doesnt he pack venues, like he should. He is after all the WBC World champion, he did have 15 back to back KO victories, he does have an exciting style, with potential KO punches comming from every angle, yet he cant pull big crowds. OK he doesnt have charisma or personality but the same could be said of JC. Maybe a big win on ITV could change all that but at the moment he is not a popular champion, but why, your views please.
Junior Witter - Why cant he sell tickets?
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Re: Junior Witter - Why cant he sell tickets?
Lazcano is ?Spud wrote:Still hasn't worked for Junior then has it?observer1 wrote:Attention = Hype = Ticket Sales = Popularity = Big Fights
Either the public are not happy with his performances or the promoter is not doing his job.
The media are clearly not on side - if they were that would be half the problem solved in selling the fighter to the public - you can't just spout on about Hatton no matter how valid your points are!!!! - you have to go out of your way to prove the point in the ring - now do you think Junior has been exciting in the ring in all of his fights??
The promoter in this case - Hennessy has his work cut out - to be honest I think he has missed the train and been left at the platform.
Its not the issue how he Fights.... Point is Witter is not the Best Fighter in the World, but is someone who clearly poses a Threat. Hatton not giving him a Chance is just plain wrong and shows how dumb boxing can be..
I mean its not like Amir Khan not fighting Thaxton.... Amir can Fight Thaxton in anytime im a few years, he clearly wants the World Title, not the British Title.
hatton on the other hand has HAD the World Title, and Claims to be the Best of the British, he probably is, but Witter has a Solid Chance and Solid Claim to be the best in Britain in the weight just as Hatton has.
If Hatton does not want to fight Witter, so be it. Its him in the Ring, not me. But Hatton, rightfully, should not say he is the best and most popular rated British Fighter, and does everything right. Because its not the case
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Observer,
Clearly you feel strongly about things - as do others - I could get on my soap box on how much the media have spouted so much sh*t in my view which has created the situation we have now!!!
Everyone goes on about how Hatton has avoided Witter - bloody hell we have had years of Calzaghe avoiding the champions - when he finally did we are all saying why didn't he do it sooner - but Calzaghe is not getting lambasted for the years of waste - what is more frustrating about Calzaghe as well is I believe he could have taken on the very best in a number of divisions and whooped them but failed to do so.
All that has happened here is Hatton has decided not to fight Witter - a fight we boxing fans you could argue we all selfishly want to see - because we are not getting it - we get reams and reams of threads on here.
Lets be honest and at the same time stir things up again
... it comes down to the same old question whether you like it or not - in fact a couple of questions -
What on earth is in it for Hatton to fight Witter?
What has Witter done to bully/cajole/persuade Hatton or HBO or anyone else it is the right fight to make - what I mean by that is - what fight has witter been in to make you think - wow f*ck me Witter should get in with Hatton!!!
If Hatton fights Witter - it will satisfy all of our selfish boxing desires - the fight will only be interesting because we will be intrigued as to the result.
In the purest boxing thoughts and terms - make no mistake it will be a shit fight because of the styles - in my view they do not mix and will not make a good fight.
Over to DG and his pals!!!
Clearly you feel strongly about things - as do others - I could get on my soap box on how much the media have spouted so much sh*t in my view which has created the situation we have now!!!
Everyone goes on about how Hatton has avoided Witter - bloody hell we have had years of Calzaghe avoiding the champions - when he finally did we are all saying why didn't he do it sooner - but Calzaghe is not getting lambasted for the years of waste - what is more frustrating about Calzaghe as well is I believe he could have taken on the very best in a number of divisions and whooped them but failed to do so.
All that has happened here is Hatton has decided not to fight Witter - a fight we boxing fans you could argue we all selfishly want to see - because we are not getting it - we get reams and reams of threads on here.
Lets be honest and at the same time stir things up again
... it comes down to the same old question whether you like it or not - in fact a couple of questions -What on earth is in it for Hatton to fight Witter?
What has Witter done to bully/cajole/persuade Hatton or HBO or anyone else it is the right fight to make - what I mean by that is - what fight has witter been in to make you think - wow f*ck me Witter should get in with Hatton!!!
If Hatton fights Witter - it will satisfy all of our selfish boxing desires - the fight will only be interesting because we will be intrigued as to the result.
In the purest boxing thoughts and terms - make no mistake it will be a shit fight because of the styles - in my view they do not mix and will not make a good fight.
Over to DG and his pals!!!
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Spud wrote:Observer,
Clearly you feel strongly about things - as do others - I could get on my soap box on how much the media have spouted so much sh*t in my view which has created the situation we have now!!!
Everyone goes on about how Hatton has avoided Witter - bloody hell we have had years of Calzaghe avoiding the champions - when he finally did we are all saying why didn't he do it sooner - but Calzaghe is not getting lambasted for the years of waste - what is more frustrating about Calzaghe as well is I believe he could have taken on the very best in a number of divisions and whooped them but failed to do so.
All that has happened here is Hatton has decided not to fight Witter - a fight we boxing fans you could argue we all selfishly want to see - because we are not getting it - we get reams and reams of threads on here.
Lets be honest and at the same time stir things up again
What on earth is in it for Hatton to fight Witter?
What has Witter done to bully/cajole/persuade Hatton or HBO or anyone else it is the right fight to make - what I mean by that is - what fight has witter been in to make you think - wow f*ck me Witter should get in with Hatton!!!
If Hatton fights Witter - it will satisfy all of our selfish boxing desires - the fight will only be interesting because we will be intrigued as to the result.
In the purest boxing thoughts and terms - make no mistake it will be a shit fight because of the styles - in my view they do not mix and will not make a good fight.
Over to DG and his pals!!!
Calzaghe is different because he cleared up the British angle!
Hatton has PLAYED everyone who wanted to see this fight for years!
All the 'do this then I fight you' then moving the goal post is plain wrong.
Witter SHOULD NOT HAVE TO CALL OUT HATTON.
If Hatton is really a figting man and has PRIDE and cares for the FANS then he should actively SEEK OUT WITTER!
Hatton is a basic brawler and an an average fighter who cares about nothing apart from money.
I HOPE TO SEE HIM GET KTFO ASAP!
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DG,
Your rantings really are amusing - Hatton has proved himself in America - has Witter?
Come on keep to the questions instead of belittling Hatton to justify Witters chances of fighting him - after all if Hatton is that bad - why on earth should a world beater like Witter want to fight him other than the very criticisms you criticise Team Hatton for so much and that is money.
Come DG - without slagging anything to do with Hatton can you or your nuthuggers with your assistants being Rhino and Chambers
justify what on earth Witter has done to justify a fight of such magnitude?
Whilst you are there - answer me this - other than his mandatory challenger why on earth have a lot of fighters turned down the opportunity to fight Witter for what I am being told was very very good money indeed!!!
Your rantings really are amusing - Hatton has proved himself in America - has Witter?
Come on keep to the questions instead of belittling Hatton to justify Witters chances of fighting him - after all if Hatton is that bad - why on earth should a world beater like Witter want to fight him other than the very criticisms you criticise Team Hatton for so much and that is money.
Come DG - without slagging anything to do with Hatton can you or your nuthuggers with your assistants being Rhino and Chambers
justify what on earth Witter has done to justify a fight of such magnitude?Whilst you are there - answer me this - other than his mandatory challenger why on earth have a lot of fighters turned down the opportunity to fight Witter for what I am being told was very very good money indeed!!!
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HMM lets see what hes done in America:Spud wrote:DG,
Your rantings really are amusing - Hatton has proved himself in America - has Witter?!!!
Collazo - lost 7-5 imo
Urango - won but put on a stinker against an opponent that the Ozzie jew who lost to Ndou schooled (I forget his name)
Castillo - looked good but Castillo was shot and lost to Ngoudjo in his prior fight
Mayweather - got KTFO
Hardly earth shattering stuff is it?
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Spud wrote:DG,
Your rantings really are amusing - Hatton has proved himself in America - has Witter?
Come on keep to the questions instead of belittling Hatton to justify Witters chances of fighting him - after all if Hatton is that bad - why on earth should a world beater like Witter want to fight him other than the very criticisms you criticise Team Hatton for so much and that is money.
Come DG - without slagging anything to do with Hatton can you or your nuthuggers with your assistants being Rhino and Chambers
Whilst you are there - answer me this - other than his mandatory challenger why on earth have a lot of fighters turned down the opportunity to fight Witter for what I am being told was very very good money indeed!!!
Proved himself in AMERICA? Thats a good one.
1) SCRAPED by Collazo - did he really win that???
2) HUGGED Urango.. Urango is basic.
3) Beat a shopworn Castillo
4) MASHED DOWN LIKE A DOG by PBF (who Hatton outweighed on the night - so - who is the bigger fighter?)
Witter beat N'dou with a BROKEN HAND.
People are running SCARED of Witter because they do not want to lose.
Witter has offered to fight for £100K and for FREE.
No doubt he would make money from sponsorship but he is taking a big risk because he KNOWS he beats Shitman Hatton
SPUD.,
Answer this question.
What has Lazacano - Pederson - Urango - Maussa - PEP - ince Philips - Pendeleton etc etc done that is so much better than WITTER?
ANSWER THE QUESTION!
Hatton is a fraud.
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DG - At first I found your posts a tadge amusing and actually thought you were a little entertaining - but your rants have become tiresome and rather boring - the only thing you fall back on is slagging off Ricky Hatton.
Tell me DG - how many times have you seen Junior Witter box - to make you so obssessed in banging the drum for him?
What are his best attributes?
What is his best fight to date?
What has he done to warrant a truly massive pay day with Ricky Hatton?
Do you honestly believe Junior Witter is an exciting draw - name the fights he has been in to ensure and entice that TV will plough a lot of money into Hatton v Witter?
Why can't Witter sell tickets - why can't Witter even fill York Hall, Bethnal Green or even closer to Bradford when he fought in Doncaster?
DG - learn some lessons from what has gone wrong on these forums in the past - try your best to enter into reasoned boxing debate - instead I fear you will slag off Hatton - you point bankly refuse to enter into a debate as it will clearly magnify your school playground antics even more- you are in fact getting more annoying than the trolls that have been recently banned
Witter v Hatton is a horrible fight - the only intrigue is in the outcome of the fight - the whole sh*t leading up to the Ref lifting the arm of the winner will be boring b*llocks!!!
Tell me DG - how many times have you seen Junior Witter box - to make you so obssessed in banging the drum for him?
What are his best attributes?
What is his best fight to date?
What has he done to warrant a truly massive pay day with Ricky Hatton?
Do you honestly believe Junior Witter is an exciting draw - name the fights he has been in to ensure and entice that TV will plough a lot of money into Hatton v Witter?
Why can't Witter sell tickets - why can't Witter even fill York Hall, Bethnal Green or even closer to Bradford when he fought in Doncaster?
DG - learn some lessons from what has gone wrong on these forums in the past - try your best to enter into reasoned boxing debate - instead I fear you will slag off Hatton - you point bankly refuse to enter into a debate as it will clearly magnify your school playground antics even more- you are in fact getting more annoying than the trolls that have been recently banned
Witter v Hatton is a horrible fight - the only intrigue is in the outcome of the fight - the whole sh*t leading up to the Ref lifting the arm of the winner will be boring b*llocks!!!
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Spud,
Witter is arguably as qualified to face Hatton as Woods is to face Calzaghe is he not - there is certainly similarities in profile.
There are some smudges around the edges but Woods has a legit belt - check, has beaten legit opponents - check, been beaten in a previous life on American television - check, struggled to fill arenas - check, been on an unbeaten roll - check - is a hard-working, dedicated professional - check, is massively behind his proposed opponent for profile - check. Been signed to fight in cotnracts before =- but never materialised - check.
Woods' recent resume is arguably stronger but not by much.
DG doesn't need to justify Witter's claims. His WBC belt, recent record and nationality provide all the legitimacy required.
Hatton has issued criteria, Witter has matched those terms, Hatton has moved the goalposts.
When you then introduce shop-worn goods like Lazcano and unheralded Urango's to the mix it just negates every one of your arguments.
Hatton simply needs to be honest "He's a big risk for little reward and I'm trying to fight people the American's will know to set up interest in a Mayweather or DLH fight as it will earn me far more than a fight with Junior - sorry fans".
Stop the bullshit.
And if we're to undermine Witter's standing, let's challenge Woods too?
Witter is arguably as qualified to face Hatton as Woods is to face Calzaghe is he not - there is certainly similarities in profile.
There are some smudges around the edges but Woods has a legit belt - check, has beaten legit opponents - check, been beaten in a previous life on American television - check, struggled to fill arenas - check, been on an unbeaten roll - check - is a hard-working, dedicated professional - check, is massively behind his proposed opponent for profile - check. Been signed to fight in cotnracts before =- but never materialised - check.
Woods' recent resume is arguably stronger but not by much.
DG doesn't need to justify Witter's claims. His WBC belt, recent record and nationality provide all the legitimacy required.
Hatton has issued criteria, Witter has matched those terms, Hatton has moved the goalposts.
When you then introduce shop-worn goods like Lazcano and unheralded Urango's to the mix it just negates every one of your arguments.
Hatton simply needs to be honest "He's a big risk for little reward and I'm trying to fight people the American's will know to set up interest in a Mayweather or DLH fight as it will earn me far more than a fight with Junior - sorry fans".
Stop the bullshit.
And if we're to undermine Witter's standing, let's challenge Woods too?
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Daivd,
Naturally as always you bring out some very good points - I think if you were to ask Clinton he wants the big fights for big money - I will also argue Clinton has gone the bloody hard way to get where he is - things have certainly not been handed on a plate to him - Clinton Woods has bloody well earnt whatever he gets out of the sport and done it the correct way!!!
In addition David - Clinton Woods is the IBF Light Heavyweight Champion Of The World - Calzaghe has fought one world class fighter in his prime in Kessler in the Super Middleweight division - so really what has Calzaghe done at Light Heavyweight to even justify licking Woods boots??
However whilst your post contains some very good points - this thread is about Witter and Hatton - you cannot jusfiy or "win" the argument/debate by veering off course - keep to the subject matters and that is Witter and Hatton.
I am though going to agree on one thing - Hatton should be open and honest about why he is not going to fight Witter - in some ways he has said or certainly hinted at it anyhow and that is he cannot stand Witter and believes Witter has jumped on the back of Team Hatton to make a name for himself - which I believe is a valid point.
David - you like many others are a boxing enthusiast - do you honestly believe Hatton/Witter is a good fight - I bloody don't - the styles simply do not mix at all!!!
Naturally as always you bring out some very good points - I think if you were to ask Clinton he wants the big fights for big money - I will also argue Clinton has gone the bloody hard way to get where he is - things have certainly not been handed on a plate to him - Clinton Woods has bloody well earnt whatever he gets out of the sport and done it the correct way!!!
In addition David - Clinton Woods is the IBF Light Heavyweight Champion Of The World - Calzaghe has fought one world class fighter in his prime in Kessler in the Super Middleweight division - so really what has Calzaghe done at Light Heavyweight to even justify licking Woods boots??
However whilst your post contains some very good points - this thread is about Witter and Hatton - you cannot jusfiy or "win" the argument/debate by veering off course - keep to the subject matters and that is Witter and Hatton.
I am though going to agree on one thing - Hatton should be open and honest about why he is not going to fight Witter - in some ways he has said or certainly hinted at it anyhow and that is he cannot stand Witter and believes Witter has jumped on the back of Team Hatton to make a name for himself - which I believe is a valid point.
David - you like many others are a boxing enthusiast - do you honestly believe Hatton/Witter is a good fight - I bloody don't - the styles simply do not mix at all!!!
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I dont think Hatton versus anyone is naturally enthralling stuff, in his current style at least - certainly not one that would justify his Mr Entertainer tag.
However, Witter as the counterpuncher with pop and Hatton as the forward marching brawler strikes me as an obviously good mesh of styles.
Unless of course you can only appreciate Ward v Gatti, in which case Hatton v Lazcano provides a sort of Ward v Gatti Lite.
I dont need to deviate from point, I appreciate its uncomfortable ground.
I dont need to. Witter is British, Hatton's natural contemporary, well known to the British public, an unbeaten British and European champion and the current WBC 140 pound titlist.
If Lovemore N'Dou held the WBC belt. Hatton would be facing him in May.
Hatton doesn't fancy the challenge.
Witter does.
And yes, it probably is all about the money. As it so often is these days.
However, Witter as the counterpuncher with pop and Hatton as the forward marching brawler strikes me as an obviously good mesh of styles.
Unless of course you can only appreciate Ward v Gatti, in which case Hatton v Lazcano provides a sort of Ward v Gatti Lite.
I dont need to deviate from point, I appreciate its uncomfortable ground.
I dont need to. Witter is British, Hatton's natural contemporary, well known to the British public, an unbeaten British and European champion and the current WBC 140 pound titlist.
If Lovemore N'Dou held the WBC belt. Hatton would be facing him in May.
Hatton doesn't fancy the challenge.
Witter does.
And yes, it probably is all about the money. As it so often is these days.
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David,
Hatton genuinally does not like Junior Witter - He has said this personally to me when there is no need to play to the press - he genuinally believes Witter has been getting cheap shots at him and to a degree does not see why on earth he has to fight Witter to justify his existance or what he has done in boxing. It really does come down to a personality thing and dare I say it - it is now a tadge of stubborness on Ricky's part.
I do not have to stick up for Ricky Hatton here - he is no longer anything to do with Fight Academy - I will go as far as to say there are certain members of Team Hatton who I would love to see brought down a peg or 2 - Junior Witter could be the fighter who could get "Spud his pound of flesh" but nonetheless I honestly believe Ricky is correct in sticking to his guns.
Hatton does not need to fight Witter if it comes down to money - so we are on about this fight from purely a boxing perspective - and thus using that and only that I honestly believe Junior Witter has to be a lot more sensational in his performances to force the issue and leave in no doubt he is the main man at Light Welterweight - I am sorry in my view he has not done that.
There is another reason and someone touched on it the other day which for me is the biggest reason and the only reason why the fight might happen - REGRET - When Ricky is in the pub drinking his guiness will he look back and regret not shutting up the big gob from Bradford - and it is that which may force this fight.
I am sick to death of people saying Junior Witter is the main man for Hatton to fight - no he is not - not by a very very long way.
Hatton genuinally does not like Junior Witter - He has said this personally to me when there is no need to play to the press - he genuinally believes Witter has been getting cheap shots at him and to a degree does not see why on earth he has to fight Witter to justify his existance or what he has done in boxing. It really does come down to a personality thing and dare I say it - it is now a tadge of stubborness on Ricky's part.
I do not have to stick up for Ricky Hatton here - he is no longer anything to do with Fight Academy - I will go as far as to say there are certain members of Team Hatton who I would love to see brought down a peg or 2 - Junior Witter could be the fighter who could get "Spud his pound of flesh" but nonetheless I honestly believe Ricky is correct in sticking to his guns.
Hatton does not need to fight Witter if it comes down to money - so we are on about this fight from purely a boxing perspective - and thus using that and only that I honestly believe Junior Witter has to be a lot more sensational in his performances to force the issue and leave in no doubt he is the main man at Light Welterweight - I am sorry in my view he has not done that.
There is another reason and someone touched on it the other day which for me is the biggest reason and the only reason why the fight might happen - REGRET - When Ricky is in the pub drinking his guiness will he look back and regret not shutting up the big gob from Bradford - and it is that which may force this fight.
I am sick to death of people saying Junior Witter is the main man for Hatton to fight - no he is not - not by a very very long way.
In 11 years,Hatton has yet to prove that he's the best light welterweight in britain. Witter has wanted the fight all the way along,Hatton has not. These are facts. He wasn't the best light welterweight in the world after beating Kostya Zoo,because Zoo was aged,inactive,injured and in Hattons back garden,just taking the match for a bumper pay day. Floyd Mayweather was. If Hatton thought he was,he should of fought Mayweather,not Carlos Maussa. As it happens,Witter has won Floyds former WBC strap,beating Corley more convincingly than Mayweather himself. Witter is the man,in britain and the world,until proven otherwise. He's ready,willing and waiting,as he has been for 11 years.
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Spudly Spudly Spudly!Spud wrote:DG - At first I found your posts a tadge amusing and actually thought you were a little entertaining - but your rants have become tiresome and rather boring - the only thing you fall back on is slagging off Ricky Hatton.
Tell me DG - how many times have you seen Junior Witter box - to make you so obssessed in banging the drum for him?
What are his best attributes?
What is his best fight to date?
What has he done to warrant a truly massive pay day with Ricky Hatton?
Do you honestly believe Junior Witter is an exciting draw - name the fights he has been in to ensure and entice that TV will plough a lot of money into Hatton v Witter?
Why can't Witter sell tickets - why can't Witter even fill York Hall, Bethnal Green or even closer to Bradford when he fought in Doncaster?
DG - learn some lessons from what has gone wrong on these forums in the past - try your best to enter into reasoned boxing debate - instead I fear you will slag off Hatton - you point bankly refuse to enter into a debate as it will clearly magnify your school playground antics even more- you are in fact getting more annoying than the trolls that have been recently banned
Witter v Hatton is a horrible fight - the only intrigue is in the outcome of the fight - the whole sh*t leading up to the Ref lifting the arm of the winner will be boring b*llocks!!!
I think it is you who should learn the lessonns of what has gone on at.
Eastside
Seconds0ut
Doghouse
What have they all got in common?
YOU RUINED THEM!
Anyone out there care to second that?
AYE!!!!!
If you and the other Hatton bottomers ask the SAME questions you wil get the same answer!
Today you are Hatton - next week - Witter depending on who you work for!
BOTTOM LINE IS - HATTON IS AVOIDING THE WBC WORLD CHAMPION.
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Amen.DavidPayne wrote:Spud,
Witter is arguably as qualified to face Hatton as Woods is to face Calzaghe is he not - there is certainly similarities in profile.
There are some smudges around the edges but Woods has a legit belt - check, has beaten legit opponents - check, been beaten in a previous life on American television - check, struggled to fill arenas - check, been on an unbeaten roll - check - is a hard-working, dedicated professional - check, is massively behind his proposed opponent for profile - check. Been signed to fight in cotnracts before =- but never materialised - check.
Woods' recent resume is arguably stronger but not by much.
DG doesn't need to justify Witter's claims. His WBC belt, recent record and nationality provide all the legitimacy required.
Hatton has issued criteria, Witter has matched those terms, Hatton has moved the goalposts.
When you then introduce shop-worn goods like Lazcano and unheralded Urango's to the mix it just negates every one of your arguments.
Hatton simply needs to be honest "He's a big risk for little reward and I'm trying to fight people the American's will know to set up interest in a Mayweather or DLH fight as it will earn me far more than a fight with Junior - sorry fans".
Stop the bullshit.
And if we're to undermine Witter's standing, let's challenge Woods too?
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And Witter took the easy way and has been given everything he has?Spud wrote:Daivd,
Naturally as always you bring out some very good points - I think if you were to ask Clinton he wants the big fights for big money - I will also argue Clinton has gone the bloody hard way to get where he is - things have certainly not been handed on a plate to him - Clinton Woods has bloody well earnt whatever he gets out of the sport and done it the correct way!!!
Spud, you talk utter rubbbish.
AND you have slagged off Calzaghe for years, but I 'think' you would kiss his arse if you ever met him and you have been on about the guy for years!
Hatton is out of excuses.
FACT.
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DG - Whatever I am guilty of you are continuing with your juvenille posts - why not enlighten the forum with good reasoned debate - and as for your cry for other forum members joining in to back you up - in whatever I have done it seem you really do pang of spineless cowardess - can you not reason on this forum DG with good well thougt through boxing debate - or do you done the help of others to slag me off and thus in some perverse way that means you have won some form of argument??DG. wrote:Spudly Spudly Spudly!Spud wrote:DG - At first I found your posts a tadge amusing and actually thought you were a little entertaining - but your rants have become tiresome and rather boring - the only thing you fall back on is slagging off Ricky Hatton.
Tell me DG - how many times have you seen Junior Witter box - to make you so obssessed in banging the drum for him?
What are his best attributes?
What is his best fight to date?
What has he done to warrant a truly massive pay day with Ricky Hatton?
Do you honestly believe Junior Witter is an exciting draw - name the fights he has been in to ensure and entice that TV will plough a lot of money into Hatton v Witter?
Why can't Witter sell tickets - why can't Witter even fill York Hall, Bethnal Green or even closer to Bradford when he fought in Doncaster?
DG - learn some lessons from what has gone wrong on these forums in the past - try your best to enter into reasoned boxing debate - instead I fear you will slag off Hatton - you point bankly refuse to enter into a debate as it will clearly magnify your school playground antics even more- you are in fact getting more annoying than the trolls that have been recently banned
Witter v Hatton is a horrible fight - the only intrigue is in the outcome of the fight - the whole sh*t leading up to the Ref lifting the arm of the winner will be boring b*llocks!!!
I think it is you who should learn the lessonns of what has gone on at.
Eastside
Seconds0ut
Doghouse
What have they all got in common?
YOU RUINED THEM!
Anyone out there care to second that?
AYE!!!!!
If you and the other Hatton bottomers ask the SAME questions you wil get the same answer!
Today you are Hatton - next week - Witter depending on who you work for!
BOTTOM LINE IS - HATTON IS AVOIDING THE WBC WORLD CHAMPION.
Or is it simply true the only thing you and others have is the same old sh*t you ruined this forum and that forum Spud - oh teacher spud done this spud's done that.
This is a boxing forum - and if I am completely guilty of whatever you say DG - surely you and others are even more guilty of bringing up the same old shit -
I will continue to post with good reasoned boxing debate - it seems you DG and a few others are stuck in the old days and can't seem to get over it - this is a boxing forum and not a school playground where the participants think it is clever, funny or macho to continually go over the same old boring b*llocks as you do.
Grow up DG and get the minority to join - Good old fashioned boxing debate may do you some good - or do you not have the intelligence or the boxing knowledge to feel you can join in?
Whats it to be DG - are you going to continue with your drivel or do you wish to join good boxing debate?
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DG,
Another thing - you come out with the same accusations - the same boring b*llocks - I do not work for Hatton, Witter or any other boxer at this stage - that is my choice and I am delighted with that choice.
With regards to my points DG - the only way you know how to get over them is by slagging me off - if it is not me you slag off Ricky Hatton - yet if anyone took the time to read through your complete and utter drivel that you write you fail to answer one single question that is directed at you!!!
You resort to the same old thing - f*ck me Spud has caught me out there - I will have to slag him off - f*ck me someone has come out with some good points about Junior Witter - f*ck to get out of that one I will have to slag off Ricky Hatton.
Lets face it DG - you have no boxing knowledge - either that or you do not have the basic intelligence to put your thoughts into well thought out coherent posts.
As I say DG - grow up - move with the times or go back and join the children in the playground
Another thing - you come out with the same accusations - the same boring b*llocks - I do not work for Hatton, Witter or any other boxer at this stage - that is my choice and I am delighted with that choice.
With regards to my points DG - the only way you know how to get over them is by slagging me off - if it is not me you slag off Ricky Hatton - yet if anyone took the time to read through your complete and utter drivel that you write you fail to answer one single question that is directed at you!!!
You resort to the same old thing - f*ck me Spud has caught me out there - I will have to slag him off - f*ck me someone has come out with some good points about Junior Witter - f*ck to get out of that one I will have to slag off Ricky Hatton.
Lets face it DG - you have no boxing knowledge - either that or you do not have the basic intelligence to put your thoughts into well thought out coherent posts.
As I say DG - grow up - move with the times or go back and join the children in the playground
Spud
The only legitimacy that Witter needs to fight Hatton is that he's British and holds a World title at what Hatton considers his weight.
I think the style mesh is fascinating for Hatton-Witter.
The argument that Junior Witter somehow hasn't earnt his shot at Hatton is as idiotic as it is laughable (surely you don't need me to list Hattons previous and next oppo's). Witter and Hatton are 1 and 2 at the weight and both are British it's the natural fiught to make and it has been for some while
Witter has filled all the various criteria set by Hatton and he still won't fight him. IMO Hatton exagerates his dislike of Junior (in an attempt to justify his Ducking), because he knows that Junior boxes his ears off and stops him.
How a British Boxing officianado like yourself Spud can say "I honestly believe Ricky is correct in sticking to his guns" is beyond me. Will you be saying the same if Joe Calzaghe repeatedly turns down Woods to fight subpar opponents?
Fair play for trying, but Hattons stance on the Witter fight is undefendable
The only legitimacy that Witter needs to fight Hatton is that he's British and holds a World title at what Hatton considers his weight.
I think the style mesh is fascinating for Hatton-Witter.
The argument that Junior Witter somehow hasn't earnt his shot at Hatton is as idiotic as it is laughable (surely you don't need me to list Hattons previous and next oppo's). Witter and Hatton are 1 and 2 at the weight and both are British it's the natural fiught to make and it has been for some while
Witter has filled all the various criteria set by Hatton and he still won't fight him. IMO Hatton exagerates his dislike of Junior (in an attempt to justify his Ducking), because he knows that Junior boxes his ears off and stops him.
How a British Boxing officianado like yourself Spud can say "I honestly believe Ricky is correct in sticking to his guns" is beyond me. Will you be saying the same if Joe Calzaghe repeatedly turns down Woods to fight subpar opponents?
Fair play for trying, but Hattons stance on the Witter fight is undefendable
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DG.
- Heavyweight
Spud hopes that Hatton sees his stance and gives him a job!Chambers2 wrote:Spud
The only legitimacy that Witter needs to fight Hatton is that he's British and holds a World title at what Hatton considers his weight.
I think the style mesh is fascinating for Hatton-Witter.
The argument that Junior Witter somehow hasn't earnt his shot at Hatton is as idiotic as it is laughable (surely you don't need me to list Hattons previous and next oppo's). Witter and Hatton are 1 and 2 at the weight and both are British it's the natural fiught to make and it has been for some while
Witter has filled all the various criteria set by Hatton and he still won't fight him. IMO Hatton exagerates his dislike of Junior (in an attempt to justify his Ducking), because he knows that Junior boxes his ears off and stops him.
How a British Boxing officianado like yourself Spud can say "I honestly believe Ricky is correct in sticking to his guns" is beyond me. Will you be saying the same if Joe Calzaghe repeatedly turns down Woods to fight subpar opponents?
Fair play for trying, but Hattons stance on the Witter fight is undefendable
DG, not trying to take the piss but am just curious as you're a big Witter fan, why didn't you go to either Witter v Corley or Witter v Morua?
Especially the Corley fight, surely the chance to see one of your favourite fighters box for the WBC title in your home town was too good a chance to miss? I like Witter (clearly not as much as you) yet I still found the time to go and see these fights and I hate ally pally as a venue.
I wanna see Witter v the Torres/Holt winner, as a fan I'd like to see him and others move on from the Hatton situation - it ain't gonna happen
Especially the Corley fight, surely the chance to see one of your favourite fighters box for the WBC title in your home town was too good a chance to miss? I like Witter (clearly not as much as you) yet I still found the time to go and see these fights and I hate ally pally as a venue.
I wanna see Witter v the Torres/Holt winner, as a fan I'd like to see him and others move on from the Hatton situation - it ain't gonna happen